kingdra,absol,dunsclops, & regice

[stewie&rupert]

as u can tell from the title i need help with those 4.

kingdra
hydro pump/surf
ice beam
dragon dance/agility/dragonbreath
return
*i dont want to teach it rain dance, ill leave that to kyogre.

absol
shadow ball
aerial ace
flametrowr*skarmory
return

dunsclops*annoyer
shadow punch
will-o-wisp
double team
protect

regice
explosion
ice beam
thunderbolt
amnesia

P.S: wats the sirious nature. is it rare bcuz i cant find it in no nature list of any sites.

 

[Red Storm]

You might want to stick protect on absol. With pressure that's wasting more pps of the opponents attacking moves. One of the the bad things with absol is it doesn't survive very long. With poor defense you need something to keep it around longer. Most people use substitute on absol but I've had little success with it.

 

[Frostweaver]

If you have Kyogre on the team, then Kingdra should definitely be hydro abusing

Kingdra- [sp.atk + / atk -] @ lum berry
EV: Sp.atk, def/hp/sp.def
-hydro pump
-HP Electric/Grass
-ice beam
-toxic/rain dance

I still recommand rain dance though, because it's not like Kingdra has much to do anyway, and tyranitar is more common than you think.

Absol- lol I think I'm brainwashing people too much... but either way, I prefer Absol to be just Skarmory weak personally...though last time that ice beaming Absol completely shocked me... my poor Salamence!

Absol- [atk + / sp.atk -] @ lum berry
EV: Atk and Speed, what else?
-swords dance
-quick attack
-shadowball
-aerial ace

Dusclops- [sp.def or def + / sp.atk or atk -] @ leftovers
EV: Defensive, max hp
-will o wisp
-night shade/seismic toss
-rest
-calm mind/snatch

Stolen right off of Mana Lugia =p
Or at least I think it is his except I added in snatch too

Regice- just need amnesia to rest or toxic and it'll be fine

 

[Lucifer.]

Dusclops is great in the sense that you can boost his defences to insane levels, and still do a definite 100 damage with Night Shade/Seismic Toss despite neglecting his attacking stats.

Shame though, that his HP's so bad. Even with EVs, it kinda balances out the top-drawer defences somewhat. :/

Kingdra: I'd go with Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Dragonbreath, Rest. Definitely Rain Dance if you're not involving Kyogre.

 

[Frostweaver]

the thing is that Dusclops cannot boost defense (calm mind maybe) that much, and yes HP is poor so night shaders like Xatu kills you. Plus, you're also Blissey-messed because night shade does nothing against it. Personally, use seismic toss instead of night shade if you can. They do the same thing, but there's more normal types than ghost type so seismic toss is a bit better in this sense. And has anyone tried countering Dusclops? I just remembered that it does learn counter o.o;

I hate dragonbreathing Kingdra... not only is it weak in power, but also it's quite useless... whatever dragon is effective against, ice beam does the same thing. The power is too low too. You have 20% paralysis yes, but when there's Rain Dance you're trying to score KOs with brute force not to be strategical. Plus, HP Electric can kill Vaporeon, and dragonbreath will take ages to kill one.

 

[Ice demon]

The best Kingdra if u ask me is
Kingdra[modest]
EVs - SpAtt 256, SpDef 256
ice beam
surf
rain dance/rest
Hp grass

Take rest since u have Kyroge

 

[Lucifer.]

I hate dragonbreathing Kingdra... not only is it weak in power, but also it's quite useless... whatever dragon is effective against, ice beam does the same thing. The power is too low too. You have 20% paralysis yes, but when there's Rain Dance you're trying to score KOs with brute force not to be strategical. Plus, HP Electric can kill Vaporeon, and dragonbreath will take ages to kill one.

Well yeah, but only one type can defend well against Dragons, so you've got yourself a guaranteed 90 damage on any enemy, plus an enemy Kingdra-beater. And HP Electric isn't exactly going to be easy to get unless you're playing online, which I assume this person isn't. -_-

 

[HellishHades]

And HP Electric isn't exactly going to be easy to get unless you're playing online, which I assume this person isn't. -_-

Two words: Action Replay.

 

[Lucifer.]

:/

Not everyone's happy using those sort of things. I know I'm not. ;)

 

[Frostweaver]

And dragon claw users must be either Flygon or Salamence who are all OHKOed by ice, and will be much slower than you due to Rain Dance boost (you're miniumum 400+, faster than speed + Jolty with his 399). Unexpecting Charizards may have claw too, but that's what surf's for ;p

Kingdra's only enemy after Rain Dance is another Kingdra, Lanturn/Quagsire, Shedinja and Blissey, and nothing else (if you have HP Electric or grass that is). Even Regice takes 40% damage with a full power Hydro Pump.

 

[Red Storm]

Ice beaming Absol, sounds interesting. It does learn calm mind to boost its special attack and defense. Maybe work a few substitutes and calm minds and Absol's special attack might not be so bad. I think I'm going to raise a modest or timid Absol and try it out.

 

[Lucifer.]

Absol's Special Attack isn't that terrible to begin with. His Attack's just so much better.

[Admires his 390 Attack stat Absol :D )

 

[Frostweaver]

Excuse me? Max 249? It's the same as Blissey's o.o;;

I perfer Absol with speed boost nature to help sweeping... it's not fast enough at all =/

 

[stewie&rupert]

well thanks for the advice.

so nobody knows wat sirious nature does.

 

[Red Storm]

Yeah, unfortunately Absol's speed hinders its attacking abilities.


Serious nature is a neutral nature that does nothing to boost or decrease stats.

 

[stewie&rupert]

ok thanks. its that i look at my slakouth with sirious nature and its got like one point more then the others slakouth at the same lv. i thought it boosts all of its stats by one.

 

[Frostweaver]

ok thanks. its that i look at my slakouth with sirious nature and its got like one point more then the others slakouth at the same lv. i thought it boosts all of its stats by one.

you just had a better IV or more EV than the another Slakoth that's all ^_^;

 

[Lucifer.]

Excuse me? Max 249? It's the same as Blissey's o.o;;

With a +Sp Atk nature it's around 279.

 

[Frostweaver]

if you got a +spatk nature, then people can easily go "meh at least now I know that too many things will be faster than this Absol"