LF: HA Pichu/Pikachu

[Teravolt]

As the title suggest, I'm looking for a HA Pichu/Pikachu, but I need it to know Fake Out and Volt Tackle. Both are Eggs Moves. If you can breed it, I'd prefer the end result like this:

-Pichu (Nickname: Trueno)
-Nature: Naive
-Ability: LightningRod
-IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
-Moves: Fake Out, Volt Tackle.

If Pichu meets all of these conditions, you can have two BREEDABLE Pokémon in my shop. However, if it doesn't have these IVs but has everything else, you can get one. Thanks.

My shop:
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/336300

P.S. Pikachu is a beast!!!

 

[Howmander]

As the title suggest, I'm looking for a HA Pichu/Pikachu, but I need it to know Fake Out and Volt Tackle. Both are Eggs Moves. If you can breed it, I'd prefer the end result like this:

-Pichu (Nickname: Trueno)
-Nature: Naive
-Ability: LightningRod
-IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
-Moves: Fake Out, Volt Tackle.

If Pichu meets all of these conditions, you can have two BREEDABLE Pokémon in my shop. However, if it doesn't have these IVs but has everything else, you can get one. Thanks.

My shop:
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/336300

P.S. Pikachu is a beast!!!

Yikes! I think you should offer a little more, as I bred myself a Hasty HA Pichu with Volt Tackle with the IVs 31/31/x/31/31/31 (to be a mixed attacker) and since you need to hold both a Destiny Knot AND a Light Ball in order to get Volt Tackle, (and can't use an Everstone) it took my two solid weeks of breeding to get that one move onto a pichu with the right nature (as they are random) and IV spread (as they are also randomly spread) it was basically a procedure that was so nightmarish I never want to go through it ever again! :D

 

[Teravolt]

Yikes! I think you should offer a little more, as I bred myself a Hasty HA Pichu with Volt Tackle with the IVs 31/31/x/31/31/31 (to be a mixed attacker) and since you need to hold both a Destiny Knot AND a Light Ball in order to get Volt Tackle, (and can't use an Everstone) it took my two solid weeks of breeding to get that one move onto a pichu with the right nature (as they are random) and IV spread (as they are also randomly spread) it was basically a procedure that was so nightmarish I never want to go through it ever again! :D

The point being?

 

[Howmander]

The point being?

the point being the very first line in my post:

Yikes! I think you should offer a little more,

Edit: just to further clarify, what I mean is if someone is going to spend two weeks breeding a pichu they can spend 1 day breeding themselves two of most of the pokemon you're offering in your trade shop.

 

[Teravolt]

the point being the very first line in my post:




Edit: just to further clarify, what I mean is if someone is going to spend two weeks breeding a pichu they can spend 1 day breeding themselves two of most of the pokemon you're offering in your trade shop.

*Sigh. What do you want?

 

[Teravolt]

Yikes! I think you should offer a little more, as I bred myself a Hasty HA Pichu with Volt Tackle with the IVs 31/31/x/31/31/31 (to be a mixed attacker) and since you need to hold both a Destiny Knot AND a Light Ball in order to get Volt Tackle, (and can't use an Everstone) it took my two solid weeks of breeding to get that one move onto a pichu with the right nature (as they are random) and IV spread (as they are also randomly spread) it was basically a procedure that was so nightmarish I never want to go through it ever again! :D

Also, you could've just done this: hatch a 6IVs Pichu with the Moves you want, then breed it along a Hasty one (yours holding the Light Ball). So your statement isn't entirely true........

 

[Howmander]

Also, you could've just done this: hatch a 6IVs Pichu with the Moves you want, then breed it along a Hasty one (yours holding the Light Ball). So your statement isn't entirely true........

That statement isn't true at all, how would your scenario work? If you hatch a 6IV pichu, you STILL require one holding a light ball for Volt Tackle to breed. You can't breed a pichu with Volt Tackle and then just breed that move onto it's offspring, the parent Pikachu/Raichu must ALWAYS be holding a Light Ball in order for Volt Tackle to be on the offspring. If one is always holding a Light Ball then the other parent can ONLY be holding a Destiny Knot OR an Everstone. If its holding a Destiny Knot, then 5IVs are passed down but the natures will always be random. If it's holding an Everstone then the nature gets passed down but only 3IVs are passed down so the other 3 will be random. Now as for me, as I said, it was such a nightmare to get the one I have there's nothing anyone could offer me to ever convince me to go through that horrible, horrible nightmare ever again! But other people might be willing to do it if you were offering something more. (I have no idea what, a shiny, a legendary, some unpurchasable hard to find hold item. Me personally I wouldn't even consider going through that hell for anything less than 2 soul dews to be honest, because the Pichu, Munchlax and Budews with their egg moves and lack of being able to use Everstones were the worst pokemon breeding experiences of my entire life!)

 

[Belldandy]

Yeah, Essence and Volt Tackle Pikachu are the worst to breed. Normally it's easy because you can have a parent hold Everstone + Destiny Knot, but in these cases you forfeit either an Everstone or the Destiny Knot to keep Volt Tackle as an EM (or, in the case of Budew, Extrasensory; in the case of Munchlax, Zen Heatbutt... etc.)

So you can either:

Pikachu w/ Light Ball + 6IV Ditto w/ Everstone

and randomize all six IVs, or you can do

Pikachu w/ Light Ball + 6IV Ditto w/ Destiny Knot

and randomize for natures. There are twenty-five(?) different natures, so this would probably be a better route than randomizing for IVs... way better lol but still so ridiculously tedious. Even if both parents are 6IVs, there's a 1/6 chance the missing IV will be correct, and on top of that a 1/25 chance of it having the right nature.

So a 1/6 chance is equivalent to a 17% chance (0.17) and 1/25 is equivalent to 4% (0.04). That's a 0.0068% chance that you'll get a Pokemon with the right nature and the right IV missing should it be required to hold an Essence or the Light Ball for Volt Tackle. 6IV with the right nature? 1/32 is 0.031 (3%) with the 0.04 (4%) for nature. That's 0.0012% chance. Ew. That and Shiny? 0.00000096%. That's taking it a bit far though! lol

Pretty brutal. I don't even think I'd trade it for a Shiny Pokemon lol! I have a 6IV Volt Tackle Modest Pikachu bred completely by random. I'd let someone trade for it in exchange for a kidney. Maybe.

I'll be attempting this venture sometime this week with Budew, Munchlax and Pikachu (for a Hasty one). This harsh reality is making me cry ;-; I did not know that it was this horribad.

 

[Howmander]

Yeah, Essence and Volt Tackle Pikachu are the worst to breed. Normally it's easy because you can have a parent hold Everstone + Destiny Knot, but in these cases you forfeit either an Everstone or the Destiny Knot to keep Volt Tackle as an EM (or, in the case of Budew, Extrasensory; in the case of Munchlax, Zen Heatbutt... etc.)

So you can either:

Pikachu w/ Light Ball + 6IV Ditto w/ Everstone

and randomize all six IVs, or you can do

Pikachu w/ Light Ball + 6IV Ditto w/ Destiny Knot

and randomize for natures. There are twenty-five(?) different natures, so this would probably be a better route than randomizing for IVs... way better lol but still so ridiculously tedious. Even if both parents are 6IVs, there's a 1/6 chance the missing IV will be correct, and on top of that a 1/25 chance of it having the right nature.

So a 1/6 chance is equivalent to a 17% chance (0.17) and 1/25 is equivalent to 4% (0.04). That's a 0.0068% chance that you'll get a Pokemon with the right nature and the right IV missing should it be required to hold an Essence or the Light Ball for Volt Tackle. 6IV with the right nature? 1/32 is 0.031 (3%) with the 0.04 (4%) for nature. That's 0.0012% chance. Ew. That and Shiny? 0.00000096%. That's taking it a bit far though! lol

Pretty brutal. I don't even think I'd trade it for a Shiny Pokemon lol! I have a 6IV Volt Tackle Modest Pikachu bred completely by random. I'd let someone trade for it in exchange for a kidney. Maybe.

I'll be attempting this venture sometime this week with Budew, Munchlax and Pikachu (for a Hasty one). This harsh reality is making me cry ;-; I did not know that it was this horribad.

Tell me about it!! I did breed my Munchlax this way and fortunately I had a bit of leeway because I would have been happy with either an Adamant OR Brave Munchlax (missing either Sp Att OR Speed IV respectively) so I had 2 chances of getting what I wanted, but that took 2 weeks as well, and the Budew with Extrasensory I just got so sick to death of seeing hatching Budews that I breed 60 at a time, hatch them all, check, then breed some other pokemon for a few days and then try for another Budew. It's been going on a month and I have just gone over 1000 Budew eggs and I STILL cannot get the spread I want so yes, I totally, TOTALLY get where your coming from with the Kidney comment, lol!

 

[Teravolt]

That statement isn't true at all, how would your scenario work? If you hatch a 6IV pichu, you STILL require one holding a light ball for Volt Tackle to breed. You can't breed a pichu with Volt Tackle and then just breed that move onto it's offspring, the parent Pikachu/Raichu must ALWAYS be holding a Light Ball in order for Volt Tackle to be on the offspring. If one is always holding a Light Ball then the other parent can ONLY be holding a Destiny Knot OR an Everstone. If its holding a Destiny Knot, then 5IVs are passed down but the natures will always be random. If it's holding an Everstone then the nature gets passed down but only 3IVs are passed down so the other 3 will be random. Now as for me, as I said, it was such a nightmare to get the one I have there's nothing anyone could offer me to ever convince me to go through that horrible, horrible nightmare ever again! But other people might be willing to do it if you were offering something more. (I have no idea what, a shiny, a legendary, some unpurchasable hard to find hold item. Me personally I wouldn't even consider going through that hell for anything less than 2 soul dews to be honest, because the Pichu, Munchlax and Budews with their egg moves and lack of being able to use Everstones were the worst pokemon breeding experiences of my entire life!)

Yeah lol, I'm tripping hard.

 

[Teravolt]

Yikes! I think you should offer a little more, as I bred myself a Hasty HA Pichu with Volt Tackle with the IVs 31/31/x/31/31/31 (to be a mixed attacker) and since you need to hold both a Destiny Knot AND a Light Ball in order to get Volt Tackle, (and can't use an Everstone) it took my two solid weeks of breeding to get that one move onto a pichu with the right nature (as they are random) and IV spread (as they are also randomly spread) it was basically a procedure that was so nightmarish I never want to go through it ever again! :D

Him seems like I have to decline your offer thought. I just found out that Hasty is +Spe, -Def. I needed Naive for the -Sp. Def one (I need it just to be able to MAYBE live a priority move. I'll probably die either way but it's worth a shot.) Well, I appreciate your wise words sir.

 

[Howmander]

Him seems like I have to decline your offer thought. I just found out that Hasty is +Spe, -Def. I needed Naive for the -Sp. Def one (I need it just to be able to MAYBE live a priority move. I'll probably die either way but it's worth a shot.) Well, I appreciate your wise words sir.

lol, I wasn't offering! That thing took me FOREVER to get, it was mine and mine alone! ;-) I was just conveying that since it took THAT long to get ONE for myself, I can't see myself ever going through it ever again! And the reason I wend with Hasty is because Raichu's base Defense is a horrible 55 while it's Sp Def is 80, so ANYTHING with physical attacks are going to 1HKO it anyway (look at all the people that say the same thing about pokemon with a 70+ base defense, I'm not sure why they think 15 - 20 points lower base Defense on Raichu suddenly isn't terrible! ;-) ) so I opted to not worry about it's Def and not lower it's Sp Def because the was no point in lowering it's one good defense stat so that they're BOTH horrible, but rather just have the 1 horrible defense. But as I said, it's mine and mine alone!

 

[Teravolt]

lol, I wasn't offering! That thing took me FOREVER to get, it was mine and mine alone! ;-) I was just conveying that since it took THAT long to get ONE for myself, I can't see myself ever going through it ever again! And the reason I wend with Hasty is because Raichu's base Defense is a horrible 55 while it's Sp Def is 80, so ANYTHING with physical attacks are going to 1HKO it anyway (look at all the people that say the same thing about pokemon with a 70+ base defense, I'm not sure why they think 15 - 20 points lower base Defense on Raichu suddenly isn't terrible! ;-) ) so I opted to not worry about it's Def and not lower it's Sp Def because the was no point in lowering it's one good defense stat so that they're BOTH horrible, but rather just have the 1 horrible defense. But as I said, it's mine and mine alone!

Lol I already have my Naive 6IVs Pikachu, but it's not HA, so I'm looking for a HA one to earn an Immunity. :C bred it myself.