It proves he does know what love is,or at least a general idea.If hecold_katanagirl said:I'm going with Elite Trainer Raven on this one... Duh.
Seriously, I think if the writers were into Pokeshipping, they would have done MUCH more when Misty left. The line "Now Ash Ketchum, I finally know how you feel about me" sounds like she realized he doesn't like her.
What did Ash DO in that episode to show Misty that he liked her anymore as a friend? Nothing at all.
Have you seen "Love at First Flight?". Ash STILL didn't understand, even at the end of the episode. The boy's as clueless as they come.
That happened such a long time ago, I don't even remember. But still, one example out of the many others doesn't prove that Ash knows what love is.
Brock left too! *gasps*Uh, you do realize that when Misty said that, Ash was crying.
That's not true at all. A friend would most likely cry if a friend where leaving. By that logic, Brock secretely loves Ash or Misty (hell, maybe a threesome!) because he was crying too. He blamed his tears because of the "onions" (who the hell calls riceballs ONIONS?), but you could obviously tell he was sad that they were splitting apart.You wouldn't cry if someone that you didn't like left.
I've been thinking the same thing looooong before I noticed Elite Trainer Raven was here.Oh yeah, as far as I know, Elite Trainer Raven isn't a romantic or anything and in that case, I wouldn't trust him to judge and say his opinion.
So Ash and May obviously love each other as well, since they were both accused of liking each other by love experts in "The Bicker The Better!". This isn't hard to put together.No offense or anything but you should trust a love expert when it comes to this.
Shouldn't Misty just have confessed her feelings then? That was the PERFECT opportunity, but instead she just rides off and Ash doesn't even look back and think of her in particular. He thinks of Misty... AND BROCK.Wouldn't Misty have had a dissapointed look on her face if she found out Ash didn't like
her?Just look at everyones facial expressions in "Gotta Catch Ya Later".
I still don't remember the episode. But still, there's more evidence pointing that he doesn't understand the concept than him knowing what he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a general gist of it, but that doesn't prove he actually knows what it is.It proves he does know what love is,or at least a general idea.If he
didn't,he would have his usual dense look.
Probably.Maybe the writers made him
smart in that episode.
Ash didn't fall in love with Giselle. He thought she was pretty, as did every other guy. And he quickly forgot his "feelings" when him and Giselle battling. Love and attraction aren't the same thing. It's like saying Onigumo truly loved Kikyo. He LUSTED for her.And why does everyone keep forgetting Giselle?
Misty would never have confessed her love for Ash because they arecold_katanagirl said:Brock left too! *gasps*
Ash didn't start crying until BOTH of his friends left. Why do people keep thinking Ash only cried for Misty? And so what if he did? People act like if they get a bit sad, it means they're automatically in love.
That's not true at all. A friend would most likely cry if a friend where leaving. By that logic, Brock secretely loves Ash or Misty (hell, maybe a threesome!) because he was crying too. He blamed his tears because of the "onions" (who the hell calls riceballs ONIONS?), but you could obviously tell he was sad that they were splitting apart.
Why didn't Ash think JUST about Misty after all of them split apart? At least for a couple of seconds, we could have gotten some flashback with just the two of them. Instead, 4kids has to create another flashback for them.
I've been thinking the same thing looooong before I noticed Elite Trainer Raven was here.
So Ash and May obviously love each other as well, since they were both accused of liking each other by love experts in "The Bicker The Better!". This isn't hard to put together.
Shouldn't Misty just have confessed her feelings then? That was the PERFECT opportunity, but instead she just rides off and Ash doesn't even look back and think of her in particular. He thinks of Misty... AND BROCK.
Why didn't Misty ride back if she thought she realized Ash loved her too? Regardless of Misty's look, there's still nothing in the episode to signify that Ash thought of her as a good friend.
I still don't remember the episode. But still, there's more evidence pointing that he doesn't understand the concept than him knowing what he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a general gist of it, but that doesn't prove he actually knows what it is.
Probably.
Ash didn't fall in love with Giselle. He thought she was pretty, as did every other guy. And he quickly forgot his "feelings" when him and Giselle battling. Love and attraction aren't the same thing. It's like saying Onigumo truly loved Kikyo. He LUSTED for her.
Misty is a love fanatic, and she's a sap for those romantic happy endings.Misty would never have confessed her love for Ash because they are
kids.Simple.
They were still love experts though.Oscar and Andy were annoying idiots,so anything they had to say
was invalid,IMO.Filler characters,and nothing more.
That's not the point I was trying to make. I was saying Ash didn't love Giselle, it was more of an attraction. Just because he got attracted to a girl, doesn't mean he loves her.Onigumo was also a greedy idiot.He wanted everything,but ended up
with nothing,except for a demon incarnate named Naraku controlling him.
OK, but Ash still didn't really do anything to prove that he liked Misty more than a friend. And of course Misty didn't look at Brock that way, because Misty didn't like Brock like that.Ash and Misty looked at each other with loving eyes.Neither one of them
looked at Brock that way.
I never said anything about them changing facial expressions. But they did change the flashback (and song). Look at the original flashback here:This was not dub added because the dub
doesn't change facial expressions.
Agreed.I guess it depends on how you view
the episode.Everyone has a different opinion.
OMG! Thank you! Someone other than totodile and Elite Trainer Raven speaking clearly. Yes, shippings like I said were made by fans just to have a little bit of fun. But most people take it too darn far! >.<Porygon said:Mwar, shippings are fun, I agree. Ya don't have to like it.
Is their a website or something where I can find the japanese episodesElite Trainer Raven said:Btw, you may wanna check Dogasu's site some time. In case you weren't aware, the whole shippyness of that episode was ADDED into the English dub. It DID NOT exist in the original.
I may not have experience in love, but I do know what I'm talking about. e_e Just because one has no experience doesn't mean they know nothing of the case.
dqle said:If ya don't like it, DON'T POST HERE!
'Nough said don't ya think? <.<[COLOR=RoyalBlue said:I like the Ash and Misty concept[/COLOR]
Huh? Then why are you so sick and tired of these "hints"? That's how the shippings started! From the sound of your first post on this page, (assuming that's the first post I've read from you) it does seem like you'd hate this topic... Then again, I didn't quite read your siggy all the way... SORRY!!!Shadow of Ash said:If that wasn't clear enough for you I'll say it again. I-like-Pokeshipping
Yup. I have to agree with you on this one. I might be one to overly exert my opinions, but I seriously don't want to cause a big commotion about it. (if I already did, my apoligies!) Even so, I express my feelings without flaming.Shadow of Ash said:My point was that some people take shippings way too far thus ending in flames and character bashing and such.
The flashbacks in the Japanese version represented how Kasumi's come along as a trainer in all of the years she's been with the group on the show. Better as a sign of remembering her rather than as a sign of her "love" for Satoshi..which is non-existant.dqle said:*I still don't get the Japanese version of Gotta Catch Ya Later!. Not to be stupid or anything, but why the heck did Kasumi run out of the Pok?mon center like that and then get the flashbacks of her growing up as a Water Trainer?!
You're gonna have to learn Japanese. No one subs the original Pocket Monsters episodes. SEVERAL people who understand the language have confirmed there's NOTHING between them.MewthreeXL said:Is their a website or something where I can find the japanese episodes
