Mimiroppu + Reversal = 'Crazy Delicious'

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    This team started out with the idea of making a Reversal Sweeper more realistic InGame not needing a zillion Salac Berries. The main combo of the team...

    Mimiroppu w/Flame Orb
    'Misuse' : Cannot use held item.
    <Timid : +Spd / -Att>
    * Sneak
    * Agility
    * Baton Pass
    * Heal Wish

    (Sneak Flame Orb onto Skarmory for Beautiful Skin. Baton Pass - Agility to Reversaler for sweep. Heal Wish when done - possibly giving Reversaler second shot.)

    Lucario w/Quick Claw <Leichi Berry for Big Fights>
    'Humble Heart' : Raises Speed when flinched in battle.
    <Adament : +Att / -Sat>
    * Endure
    * Reversal
    * Shadow Claw
    * Sword Dance

    (Reversal Sweeper)

    Heracross w/Choice Band
    'Guts' : Attack (x1.5) when inflicted with a status effect.
    <Jolly : +Spd / -Sat>
    * In Fight
    * Megahorn
    * Stone Edge
    * Blade Test

    (Leadoff CBer. Hopefully will draw out Skarmory if he's there)

    Jibacoil w/Leftovers
    'Magnet Pull' : (Steel) types cannot escape from battle.
    <Modest : +Sat / -Att>
    * Thunderbolt
    * Luster Cannon
    * Metal Sound
    * Electrolevitate

    (Skarmory hunter. Luster Cannon for (Ground). (Flying) protection for Heracross.)

    Milotic w/Leftovers
    'Marvel Scale' : Defense (x1.5) when inflicted with status effect.
    <Bold : +Def / -Att>
    * Surf
    * Ice Beam
    * Sleep Talk
    * Rest

    (Special Wall. Dragon Hunter. STalker. - Covers (Fire) weakness. Nasty with a Scheme or two.)

    Togekiss w/Leftovers
    'Serene Grace' : Doubles chance of attacks' special effect activating.
    <Timid : +Spd / -Att>
    * Air Slash
    * Pulse Bomb / Feather Rest
    * Scheme
    * Baton Pass

    (With a couple of passed Agility - this thing is a HACK nightmare. Baton Passing a couple of Scheme to Milotic who'll sleep off damage is even scarier.)

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    I'm a little wary of having 2 Baton Passers so - If not Togekiss maybe Charizard? I'm looking for something with a STAB (Flying) to take out (Fight) types. I'm still open to changing the last slot. This is for In-Game but i always build my teams like they were competitive so PLEASE no 'AOA BCOS INGAME' grossness. What do you think?
     
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    Mimiroppu is fine I suppose, but Dizzy Punch is always an option for confusion hax and so it can actually do something. You'd use Jolly with it.

    Swords Dance > Blaze Kick and Crunch > Shadow Claw on Lucario. Adamant, since reaches 264 Speed easily without a +Speed nature. One Agility will make him faster than everything else. Liechi Berry is better.

    Heracross needs more Blade Test > Earthquake.

    Luster Cannon could go somewhere on Jibacoil (either over Thunder Wave or Electrolevitate, meaning that you'd have to sacrifice either Speed or Ground-type moves immunity), so you aren't completely walled by Dugtrio or any other Ground-type that might switch in, considering some Skarmorys now hold Beautiful Skin, an item that allows the holder to switch out at will.

    Togekiss is awesome:

    Togekiss @ Leftovers
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    Trait: Serene Grace
    - Scheme
    - Air Slash
    - Pulse Bomb
    - Baton Pass / Shadow Ball / Feather Rest

    Air Slash and Pulse Bomb alone hit everything in the game at least neutrally except for Zapdos and Rotomu. The last slot is optional; he has great potential as a Schemepasser, but Feather Rest is great for longevity. Shadow Ball, when coupled with Serene Grace, has that sexy 40% chance of lowering Special Defense. Not to mention Zapdos and Rotomu lose their resistance to its attacks.
     
    Thanks for the help Sphere.

    Sphere wrote:

    Mimiroppu is fine I suppose, but Dizzy Punch is always an option for confusion hax and so it can actually do something.

    ...considering some Skarmorys now hold Beautiful Skin, an item that allows the holder to switch out at will.

    That's why Mimiroppu is packing Sneak over an offensive move. To make sure Skarmory doesn't think he can set up his Spikes and switch out when he sees heat coming. Dizzy Punch wouldn't do much damage anyway. He also could help take out a Last Man Standing type like Curslax by taking that Leftovers away.

    Sphere wrote:

    Adamant, since reaches 264 Speed easily without a +Speed nature. One Agility will make him faster than everything else. Liechi Berry is better.

    This is most joyous news to my ears. I thought i'd need 2 Agility to outspeed everything but 1 makes it that much better. Thanks for the <Magic #> - it is always easier to breed / EV train with them in mind. This team is for InGame so he'll be walking around with Quick Claw but you could bet your arse that as soon as i get my hands on a Leichi Berry - a game of Harvest Moon will break out. I'll probably still only use them for the big fights but i agree they are optimal.

    Blade Test is going over Earthquake. I'm still used to 3rd gen where there weren't as many choices to CBers. It's like a knee jerk to throw a (Ground) in when you see (Rock). But Blade Test will help with the (Ghost). <I'm looking at you Gengar>

    I like the Luster Cannon as well. It's going in over Thunder Wave. Another 3rd to 4th Gen mess up. This is very helpful.

    I prefer Shadow Claw over Crunch for Lucario but thats not really that big of a deal. That extra chance of a Critical is enough to make me use it just in case of a lost cause situation. Unless someone could point out a (Ghost) that's gonna live through 1 Shadow Claw but fall to 1 Crunch.

    You are definitely not lying about Togekiss. All the non UBER pokes with 'Serene Grace' never had the movepools to take advantage of it. I was praying on my hands & knees that they would give Dunsparce a cool Evolution in the 4th Gen. because i think that thing is a sleeping giant waiting to be pumped up. That's probably my biggest i wish about this generation.

    I'm gonna update the 1st Post in this thread to take care of the changes.
     
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