MixeApe or Physical?

[BobberyJo]

It's your classic RMT

1. Gyarados-Adamant-Leftovers
212 HP / 16 Atk / 180 Def / 100 Spe

1.Taunt
2.DD
3.Waterfall
4.Earthquake

Your classic BulkyGyarados. I like to switch to my Elecitivire for Motor Drive

2. Electivire-Adamant-Expert Belt
252 Attack and Speed

1.Ice Punch
2.Thunder Punch
3.Cross Chop
4.EQ

Gets Motor Drive from Gyarados.

3.Umbreon-Bold-?
252 HP 128 Def and SP.DEF

1.Baton Pass
2.Wish
3.Mean Look
3.Toxic

Bp's to my Specmence. Also provides support.

4.Blissey-Bold- Leftovers
252 Ev's Def and HP

1. Seismic Toss
2. Counter
3. Soft Boiled
4. Heal Bell

Having Counter lets me wall physcial Sweepers.
I debated on Ice Beam vs. Seimic Toss, but having Seismic toss lets me invest more Ev's on HP. It also has more consistent damage.
(Is it legal to have both moves on Blissey? I got this from a friend, but i've never seen this set before...)

5. Infernape?
I have both Mix and Physical
Please help me decide which to use.

6. Salamence-Modest-Choice Specs
252 Speed and Sp.Attack

1.Draco Meteor
2.Dragon Pulse
4.Flamethorwer
3. Hydro Pump

Switches in and out easily thanks to Umbreon

This is my mediocre team. Please don't be too harsh. I happily accept constructive criticism.

 

[Azonic]

I'd prefer Electivire with Thunderbolt to handle SkarmBliss.

I suggest you not to ToxicTrap. Its highly counterable and predictable so Heracross / Milotic is a common switch-in when it comes to Umbreon.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Theres a nice little umbreon set i like

Umbreon@Leftovers
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Sassy nature
- Baton Pass
- Mean look
- Wish
- Yawn


Yawn trap >>> Toxi trap. If a threat comes in and you yawn, they have to switch or loose a pokemon to sleep and then once it switches out, Mean Look on the switch, Yawn again set a wish up and Baton pass out whilst they fall asleep.

Evs balance out its defensive stats more. 252 hp / 252 def @sassy nature gives 394 hp / 319 def / 326 sp.def

252/128/128 ev spreads are something you generally want to avoid.


Actually, umbreon is alot better than people give credit for, but beware some things will use it as set up fodder with Taunt, as most umbreon sets are apart from Curse and Payback set.

 

[Anti]

I'd prefer Electivire with Thunderbolt to handle SkarmBliss.

I suggest you not to ToxicTrap. Its highly counterable and predictable so Heracross / Milotic is a common switch-in when it comes to Umbreon.

On a team with Infernape and gyarados, who both embarrass SkarmBliss? thunderbolt would be a total waste ._.

I'm going to point out the obvious and say half the netagame laughs at this team. Umbreon and blissey alone wall about as much as Dugtrio can wall. Any sweeper with some means of a fightiing attack that can break Blissey will be gg.

Also two of your sweepers are weak to SR with no spinner and spikes gobbles up everything else, though this team pretty much smashes skarmory.

 

[BobberyJo]

I haven't met too many physical sweepers who can OHKO Blissey. Counter usually kills the Sweeper.

I have a vast variety of pokemon, what pokemon would you recommend?

 

[Anti]

I haven't met too many physical sweepers who can OHKO Blissey. Counter usually kills the Sweeper.

I have a vast variety of pokemon, what pokemon would you recommend?

That's assuming Blissey is at full health with no weather, spikes. toxispikes, or SR damage sustained. A lot of physical sweepers can easily OHKO it without extra damage. There are also those that destroy Blissey whether or not it's a OHKO:

-Heracross
-Garchomp
-Medicham
-Gallade
-Machamp
-Infernape
-Electivire
-Metagross
-Salamence (physical)
-Tyranitar
-Weavile
-Slaking
-Rhyperior

Seriously, I have more of these, I can go on.

Also almost of of those pokemon smash through Umbreon as well.