Mommy! That stupid blue bowling ball 0KO'd my Blissey!

Dukey

oh.my.gaskarth.
    • 3,266
    Posts
    17
    Years
    Well here it is :nervous:
    EDIT: Made some changes, and is now doing alright on shoddy. still haven't come up against a blissey to 0KO

    "image removed""image removed""image removed""image removed"*pokemonelite2000 image removed**pokemonelite2000 image removed*
    It took a while to make, but anyway I'm proud of it.​

    "image removed"
    Skarmory @ SalacBerry
    Impish - Keen Eye
    252 Def / 252 Spe
    Stealth Rock
    Brave Bird
    Roost
    Whirlwind
    This is my lead, I will set up spikes & stealth rock, and whirlwind any threats.​

    "image removed"
    Azumaril @ Choice Band
    Adamant - Huge Power
    212 HP/ 252 Atk/ 46 Sp Def
    Superpower
    Ice Punch
    Waterfall
    Brick Break
    This is probably the one I am most proud of, it should 0KO Blissey with Superpower.​

    "image removed"
    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Adamant - Poison Heal
    46 HP / 252 Atk / 212 Speed
    Focus Punch
    Spore
    Substitute
    Stone Edge
    Yay! I put a copy of Disfunctions Breloom in, and he's doing alright.​

    "image removed"
    Salamence @ Life Orb
    Lonely – Intimidate
    252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Brick Break
    Dragon Claw
    Dragon Dance
    Hydro Pump
    It took a long time to decide Salamence or Garchomp, but I chose Salamence for his huge Atk. I am happy to take any constructive criticism you have for him.
    "image removed"
    Heatran @ Choice Scarf
    Modest - Flash Fire
    22 HP / 236 Speed / 252 Sp Atk
    Fire Blast
    Earthquake
    Dragon Pulse
    Roar
    Just a basic Special Sweeper, Fire Blast 0KO's or 2KO's alot of pokemon.
    *pokemonelite2000 image removed*
    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm – Natural Cure
    252 HP / 252 Def
    Toxic
    Wish
    Softboiled
    Seismic Toss
    Well I had to have a wall, and Blissey is the option for most people so I used it. Was a bit confused as how to work the ev's with it so I just used def.​


    Comments:
    Its my first wi-fi team I've made, and I realise that there are 2 physical sweepers, and 2 pokemon that kind have 1 main purpose but still, I like it.
    Happy to get some constructive criticism, but please don't just say something about it is bad and don't give a reason or a way to improve it.
    oh and btw incase you didn't realise, the big blue bowling ball is azumaril
     
    Last edited:
    I approved since it'll need a lot of help, and you put some effort into it. Eh, close enough to our par.

    But two things.

    1) Find a replacement for Latias, it's banned in competitive play, so you're not allowed to use it. (Note: I don't want anyone barking at him for the uber, I'll delete if you do.) It's banned in all battles with people that have uber clause (which is standard) So, yeah, I suggest you find a replacement, you really don't want people barking off at you for using an unfair Pocket Monster.

    2) It's generally better to show the extra four to six extra EVs, even if it's just a point.

    I'll rate in a bit~
     
    Last edited:
    Extreme Speed is preferred on Lucario, as Lucario's defenses are mediocre at best, and he's not the fastest sweeper in the game. Extreme Speed ensures that you at least get to use that monstrous attack power on pokemon that are normally faster than him.

    Also, Blissey since Blissey is meant to be a special wall, it's probably best those EVs are invested in Special Defense instead of Defense. while it will fair a little better against physical attacks with those Defense points, a boosted Close Combat should still OHKO. instead, make sure Blissey is doing the best at what it's meant for": absorbing special attacks.
     
    OK thnx does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement for Latias? preferably a good special sweeper
     
    hmm, not considering gengar due to its horrible other stats, does anyone agree with heatran or zapdos?
     
    Huge Rayquaza weak. Skarm won't be standing up to an Overheat, and after a DD it outspeeds everything on your team, even SDRay outspeeds everything bar Latias.

    I suggest you redo the team. It makes sense to use Ubers when you are playing Ubers...

    Anyway for Bliss just use Toxic / Wish / Calm Mind / Ice Beam or Thunder, Psych Up might help against CMing stuff like Kyogre but with Toxic all but the RestTalkCM sets are crippled, you already have Latias walling Kyogre so I wouldn't put Psych Up. Azumarill and Lucario are worthless in Ubers as they are too slow, and both of them get walled by Giratina. Salamence is overshadowed by Rayquaza, as while Mence has the superior speed 5 points is negligible as Rayquaza can evolve to be a huge threat once it is set up.
     
    Pogiforce-14 said:
    Also, Blissey since Blissey is meant to be a special wall, A.it's probably best those EVs are invested in Special Defense instead of Defense. B. while it will fair a little better against physical attacks with those Defense points, a boosted Close Combat should still OHKO. C. instead, make sure Blissey is doing the best at what it's meant for": absorbing special attacks.
    Click to expand...
    A)Blissey needs max defence
    B)Blissey isnt meant to take Close Combats, but sometime's its gotta. Max defence is also required otherwise pursuiters and mixed sweepers are gonna poop all over you.
    C) Blissey has a chunky enough HP to go without a huge boost, so both defences can be bulked up.

    Blissey needs to run Calm@252Def/216SpDef/40HP

    Dukey said:
    OK thnx does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement for Latias? preferably a good special sweeper
    Click to expand...

    Special Sweepers of note include gengar, azelf, porygon Z, infernape and deoxys-e

    Pogiforce-14 said:
    Gengar or Empoleon are some options for that spot.
    Click to expand...

    Empoleon cannot sweep for moot. Its a tank at best.

    Dukey said:
    hmm, not considering gengar due to its horrible other stats, does anyone agree with heatran or zapdos?
    Click to expand...

    Sweepers are almost always fragile, other stats dont matter when you get by on speed and SpAtt alone. Heatran can be a sweeper with a scarf should you so wish, but zapdos has trouble doing so.

    Aquilae said:
    Huge Rayquaza weak. Skarm won't be standing up to an Overheat, and after a DD it outspeeds everything on your team, even SDRay outspeeds everything bar Latias.

    I suggest you redo the team. It makes sense to use Ubers when you are playing Ubers...
    Click to expand...

    As Beachboy has said, uber weaknesses are not worth mentioning, and this team is obviously not headed for ubers. Heck, he has already asked for a replacement.
     
    Not sure what the point of Salac Berry on Skarm is; Leftovers >> Salac Berry.

    Skarm wants Brave Bird >> Spikes or SR also.
     
    Huge Mixape weakness, offensive Mixape that is. It hits everything on your team for super effective, and only Azumarill can take a hit from it. I'd invest in a Mixape counter, like WishVaporeon, or Choice Specs Vaporeon, over Latias.
     
    Also, just as a note, Brick Break on Azumarill is about the most redundant thing ever. You already have Superpower for the fighting weak bashing, so go with Aqua Jet (priority is nice, mmmhmm) or some other useful filler instead. In a similar vein, DD Sala certainly has many better options than Brick Break. Needs more Earthquake, imo. Also, no need for full Speed on a DD set. Drop that to 136 EVs and put the excess in HP to add a bit more bulk.

    And yeah, major mixape weak there. xx I'd suggest running Starmie as Latias' replacement as it's lightweight (making Grass Knot far less of a threat) and capable of scaring ape off with STAB Surf. It would make for a far better lead than Skarm too. Some form of electric absorber would also be in order in that case, though, as Blissey is pretty much the only thing that keeps Zapdos from walking all over you. D:
     
    Last edited:
    Couldn't Azumarril revenge-kill Nappe with Aqua Jet? I'm asking, not asserting.
     
    I was replying on Alter Ego's post, assuming he does add Aqua Jet due to his suggestions.

    I still wanna know the answer, though.
     
    Dukey said:
    OK thnx does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement for Latias? preferably a good special sweeper
    Click to expand...
    Use Azelf. He doesn't fear MixApe, is really fast, and can kill Blissey with Explosion.

    I'd suggest replacing Skarmory as well. SkarmBliss is a thing of the past now.
     
    so basiclly, I should put aqua jet on azurill, and get a mixape counter?
    I'm also considering putting a breloom, much like difunctional's in there instead of lucario because at the moment breloom can do the same as lucario but, also 100% put them to sleep. here's the moveset I'm considering....

    Breloom
    Spore
    Substitute
    Focus Punch
    Stone Edge

    if you think he'd be better than lucario then tell me.
    and yes I realise this just makes my team even more vulnerable to mixape
     
    Last edited:
    You must log in or register to reply here.
    Back
    Top