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My Best One Yet[OU]

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    As of right now,I'm up to 1199 CRT on an alt I made specifically for this team on the smogon servers.

    anyway, on to the team.

    Team At A Glance
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    Tyranitar@Lum Berry
    Careful Nature (+SpD, - SpA)
    Sand Stream
    252 HP, 40 Atk, 216 SpD

    Crunch
    Earthquake
    Stone Edge
    Stealth Rock

    Great lead so far. Crunch+Sandstream kills off Azelf before it can do anything, since most I've faced taunt me first. 2HKO with Crunch on aero leads, Ape leads fake out first or go for the OHKO with CC, which is an easy switch for me. Takes care of what it can and gets rocks up, and my team can handle the leads he cant.


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    Metagross@ Life Orb
    Adamant (+Atk, - SpA)
    Clear Body
    112 HP, 252 Atk,12 Def, 132 Spd

    Agility
    Explosion
    Earthquake
    Meteor Mash

    Good lord I love this thing.lol. Come in on something it resists or will live through, which is a LOT.Hit the agility and go to town.The EV's allow Gross to outspeed DDMence after it gets an agility in.Explosion for when I get low on HP.



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    Heatran@Leftovers
    Naive (+Spd, - SpD)
    Flash Fire
    4 HP, 252 Spd, 252SpA

    Substitute
    Earth Power
    Fire Blast
    Explosion

    Bring it on a fore move or on something itll force out and sub on the switch. Fire Blast for STAB and the Flash Fire Boost. Earth Power for other Heatrans that want to get a Flash Fire boost in and for when I dont get a boost. People dont expect Explosion behind a Sub, so they wont send in the ghost to eat it up, thinking I'll just end up using Toxic on something.

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    Rotom-C@Leftovers
    Bold (+Def, -Atk)
    Levitate
    252 HP, 168 Def, 88 Spd,

    Will-o-wisp
    Leaf Storm
    Discharge
    Shadow Ball

    My answer to Swampert leads, which can dent my team otherwise. Discharge over TBolt for the higher paralysis chance. Shadow Ball for some STAB and to have something for the annoying Cresselia's, however rare they are. Will-o-Wisp is pretty straightforward. Leaf Storm is the answer to Swampert.


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    Scizor@Choice Band
    Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
    Technician
    248 HP, 252 Atk, 8 Spd

    Bullet Punch
    U-Turn
    Superpower
    Pursuit

    U-turn makes this thing, letting me see their Scizor counter. Bullet Punch for a strong STAB. Pursuit for Blissey switching out.Superpower is a OHKO on incoming Magnezones and Heatrans, very common Scizor switch-ins.

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    Raikou@Leftovers
    Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
    68 HP, 116 SpA, 72 SpD, 252 Spe

    Substitute
    Hidden Power Grass
    Calm Mind
    Thunderbolt

    Sub up on something that cant do 25%, then Calm Mind until the sub breaks.TBolt for STAB, HP Grass for things that resist TBolt. HP Grass over Ice as most things that HP Ice would hit, outside of Gliscor, is a 2 or 3HKO with TBolt anyway so yeah.


    Conclusion

    Team works well together. Have some trouble with Infernape if I don't predict well. Rotom Counters the CC/Mach Punch/Vacuum Waves and Heateran obviously counters the fire moves. Other than that, Gross tends to srvive any fire moves outside of stupid overheat and can use agility and then take him out. Other than that, nothing has troubled the team.

    Open to switching Raikou since he hasnt truly done a lot for me.​
     
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    The reason Raikou isnt working for you is because you arent supporting it well.

    Tyranitar on the same team as Raikou is pretty dumb because you kill yourself with SUB + SS.

    Raikou also pretty much needs Toxic Spikes support to beat and wear down its bulkier counters so id use something like Roserade >> Tar. Rose also sucks up T-Spikes which plague Raikou.

    Roserade@Focus Sash
    252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 DEF
    Timid Nature
    Trait : Natural Cure
    - Sleep powder
    - Toxic Spikes
    - Leaf Storm
    - Hidden Power Ground

    Then id put SR on Heatran and make it into trap tran which would be

    Heatran@Life Orb
    6 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED
    Naive Nature
    - Stealth Rock
    - Magma Storm
    - Explosion
    - Earth Power

    To lure in and destroy Blissey and thus open up sweeps for Raikou. Scizor serves as a back up plan with Pursuit to remove Blissey.

    Next, on Rotom put Reflect >> Will-o-Wisp to not conflict with T-Spikes. Rotom also wants Pain Split >> Leaf Storm to keep healthy if it wishes to keep switching in your team also doesnt fear swamper what so ever so yeah no need for Storm.

    Lastly you need a better fighting resist because really any fighter in the game basically eats you who can get past rotom aka Crunch Luke and Breloom and Payback Machamp to some extent.

    Try this to beat the aformentioned pokes better.

    Gyarados@Leftovers
    252 HP / 224 Def / 32 Speed
    Impish Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk

    >> Metagross.


    With T-Spikes this works well. This also lets you take status well (from Breloom, Roserade and Smeargle which cripples your entire team atm) and can sweep with T-Spikes up crippling its biggest counters aka Bulky Waters. Your team also supports beating its other counters well e.g Scizor can Pursuit Latias and SR Keeps Mence and other Gyarados in check. This also covers your Heatran weakness beating all versions iirc and also Mixape/Ape in general.

    Roserade
    Trap Tran
    Pain Split Rotom
    STalker Gyarados
    Raikou
    Scizor


    Hope this helped, good luck with the team
     
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    no joke, i completely worded it wrong for raikou.

    i meant it like,he never gets out to do anything,so i might as well replace him for something i can actually get out,yafeelme?

    i basically just threw him out here cuz i wanted to try him out[stupid, I know.lol],but i never really get to use him cuz the rest of my team usually sweeps before he gets out
     
    This team is extremely weak to the very common threat infernape.

    You have nothing that can switch into a combination of close combat/fire blast and NP ape, standard LO mixape, and SD ape completely tear your team apart especially with the right support taking out your priority user who could possibly do some damage after a close combat (possibly something like magnezone who can trap scizor). You also only have scizor as insurance to DDmence as well as only rotom for insurance against DDgyara. Raikou needs way more support in order to function properly as well as tyranitar is a very outdated lead.

    I'm with D_A on roserade > Tyranitar but as you said raikou isn't functioning very well, after you put roserade > tyranitar you could possibly switch out raikou for Crocune which when having something like rotom to take out vaporeon you don't need to fear it when sweeping with crocune.

    Run 0 HP / 52 Def somewhere on the roserade spread though, just take some out of Sp atk to survive two bullet punches from standard leadgross.

    I don't see what traptran is doing with scizor to potentially destroy blissey as well as you have gross to set up in its face and potentially sweep off of a blissey weakness. I would suggest using tormenttran over that heatran as tormenttran does amazingly with t-spikes and can help spread around damage for a crocune sweep.

    The spread is; 252 HP / 140 Spe / 18 Sp atk / 100 Sp Def Timid @ Leftovers. Moveset would be Lava plume / Protect / Substitute / Torment. Tormenttran works very well with the rest of your team as well as toxic spikes support as you can take care of most things that wall crocune. Lava plume is the only attacking move on the set which means the set is only walled by gyarados, swampert, and other heatran. Swampert can be eventually stalled out with t-spikes support and gyara with possibly a burn. After you scare off something like skarmory and they switch in a heatran, you can torment them behind a sub when they break it. The next turn they won't be able to use earth power which means they'll most likely be completely walled by you and if they're choiced you can completely make them struggle. When they try to use the move the turn after, you protect and they cant use it for another two turns. "The ev spread allows for maximum leftovers recovery, Speed evs bring heatran to 245 which lets you outspeed zapdos and celebi at 244 spe. The Special Defense EVs allow Heatran to take 24% max from a neutral natured, 0 Special Attack Rotom's Discharge, meaning they will never break your Substitute. This is important because you really do not want Heatran to randomly get paralyzed from Discharge. The Special Attack EVs ensure that you do a minimum of 33% to max HP Machamp, meaning that the Rest + Sleep Talk sets will be 3HKOed. You don't have to worry about DynamicPunch with Torment. Heatran always 3HKOs bulky Rotoms, so not even the Rest + Sleep Talk versions can stop you." Credit to Philip7086 for this great set.

    Now like i mentioned you should run crocune > raikou which means the spread is 252 Def / 252 HP 6 Spe Bold @ Leftovers. Moveset would be Surf / Calm mind / Rest / Sleep talk. Crocune is a beast and the spread is extremely standard so i doubt i have to explain it.

    Now that's all ive got atm so i hope this helped and gl with your team.
     
    bleh

    guess I should mention I said bye bye to Raikou and hello CM Latias w/ Lefties.

    Takes care of the ape weakness as nothing can really mess em up from ape except for u-turn, but rotom now has reflect>leaf storm on him too, so thatll take away some of the damage u-turn deals to latias.

    that and I made the team d_a said and its failed epically because stupid sleep powder hates me and decides to miss 24/7.

    could set up the latias sweep better, but its doing it job on the team well.
     
    that and I made the team d_a said and its failed epically because stupid sleep powder hates me and decides to miss 24/7.

    Gotta be patient on that one. On some days, it hits all the time, and on others, it misses all the time, in crucial situations even.

    I just have a question, what is the team strategy? You don't really need one but Im interested on what you do =)
     
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