My "better" team thread, please rate

[RespectfullyDesired]

My other thread wasn't as detailed, so i'm going to give another go at it.


Swampert
Sassy Nature
Trait: torrent
254 hp/254 atk
- Curse
- Earthquake
- Avalanche
- Waterfall

Gardevior
Serious Nature
Trait: Synchorize
evs: 254 sp atk/254 speed
- thunderbolt
- Psychic
- Calm mind
- shadow Ball

Arcanine (Blazer)
Modest Nature
evs: 254 sp attk/254 speed
- Thunder Fang
- Flamethrower
- sunny day
- solar beam

Salamance
Adamant Nature
evs: 254 atk/254 speed
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Tryanitar
Adamant Nature
evs: 254 atk/254 hp
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw

Hitmonlee
Hasty Nature
evs: 40 def/254 atk/216 speed
- Brick Break
- subsitute
- Blaze Kick
- Focus Punch


PLEASE note that this isn't my movesets YET. Please make suggestions and which. (and yes, i already have the pokemon and ev trained them, now just getting the movesets + training/evolving)

 

[Dark Azelf]

Swampert@Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
Trait: torrent
240 HP / 212 DEF / 56 SP.ATT.
- Hydro Pump
- Earthquake
- Ice beam
- Roar

Mixpert will always be superior to cursepert and WILL outdamage it and is not just Whirlwind and Haze etc fodder.

Ice Beam ohkos Mence and so you wont get screwed by intimidate.

Gardevior@leftovers
Calm Nature
Trait: Trace
evs: 252 HP / 48 Sp.A / 176 Sp.D / 32 Spe
- Will-o-wisp / Reflect
- Psychic
- Wish
- shadow Ball / Thunderbolt / Focus Blast

This will cover your weak to mix ape and provide support for your team.

Arcanine (Blazer)
Modest Nature
evs: 254 sp attk/254 speed
- Thunder Fang
- Flamethrower
- sunny day
- solar beam

Salamance@Leftovers / Life Orb
Adamant Nature
evs: 82 HP / 252 ATT / 176 SPEED
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Stone Edge / Fire Blast
- Earthquake

Fine


Tyanitar@Choice Band
Adamant Nature
evs: 60 HP / 252 ATT / 196 SPEED
- Crunch
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- Pursuit

Pursuit is more beneficial on this.


Hitmonlee
Hasty Nature
evs: 40 def/254 atk/216 speed
- Brick Break
- subsitute
- Blaze Kick
- Focus Punch

Comments in bold

I allowed this as its kinda structured. But there are still some issues.

Right, firstly, 252 evs does the same as 254. So you are wasting evs.

We do need items, but w/e. Neutral natures suck.

Remove hitmonlee and Arcanine for things that can take hits, in all honestly they are both dead weight on this team.

I would also go for starmie >> Gardevoir tbh, as Ape and Gyarados hurt this team alot.

Also steel wall would be cool >>Hitmonlee and they work well with Mence to cover their fire/ground weak, and the steel wall covers Mences rock weak and Ice weak, mence can also take the fighting attacks steel walls hate. It also helps your team absorb outrages. Bronzong or Forretress would be cool.

Id also remove Tar or Mence and get a sp.sweeper.

This team has potential to be decent, but there are some blegh things.

 

[RespectfullyDesired]

I was thinking of getting rid of hitmonlee for hitmonchan, for its higher defense stats

 

[Anti]

Hitmontop is the only hitmon that can take a hit at all. That's the one you should use...and even then, I would go for something more bulky.

 

[stocksy96]

id say its good just not as good as mine :P

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

DA:Wouldn't Timid nature work better on Gardevoir? Why not try a BulkyDos (I don't know the EV's and stuff but I got pwnd by one).

Stockys96:No-one cares about your Uber team filled with hacked ubers. D not post unless you know what you're talking about. It annoys the heck out of people. *sigh...gets burnt for mini-modding*

 

[El Gofre]

id say its good just not as good as mine :P

Yeah that really isnt helpful. Plus, going by the team you posted in the DP section this team would laught at you.

OP, you do realise that the max EVs that are useful is 252? Those extra 4 you're wasting could be put into another stat, and every little helps :)
DA's covered most of the stuff.

DA:Wouldn't Timid nature work better on Gardevoir?

Nope. Gardy needs a defensive nature for a defensive pokemon.

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

What about BulkyDos? I mean, he does want a Bulky pokemon and Gyara is powerful as heck so why not. I'd post one up but I don't know natures and movesets but I'll try to think of something.

Got a set for a Bulky Gyarados. Been looking through my box and found something that reminded me of a BulkyDos. Here goes my first BulkyDos advice.

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Adamant/Jolly <200HP/102Atk/152Def/56Speed>
Taunt
Waterfall
Dragon Dance
Earthquake

Damn. That's better than I thought. Adamant runs better on this guy. If you're not sure about that EV spread, you can always try this. I found this on the net so it's probably better than my set. Oh well. Here it is: 230HP/64Atk/180Def/36Spd

 

[Dark Azelf]

id say its good just not as good as mine :P

Please dont post here again until its something relevant to this thread.






Bulky Gyara evs are : 212 HP / 16 ATT / 180 DEF / 100 SPEED. BTW.

 

[Hadim Sinan Pasha]

isn't anyon gonna comment y bulkydos? try the set i gave out and tell me how well it works. use shoddy to test the 2 ev speads.