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My New Team [RMT]

Kirioroshi

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    • Seen Jul 26, 2008
    Hello Again. I did some intensive breeding and i got some pretty sweet IV's for certain pokemon.

    Heres what i got so Far.

    Empoleon @ Leftovers
    Adamant
    30 Hp/31 atk/31 Speed IVs
    252atk, 252 Spd and 6 hp Ev's
    -Waterfall
    -Drill Peck / Earthquake
    -Sword Dance
    -Avalance / Earthquake/ Stealth Rock

    I want to try this combo if it doesn't work well meh, i got a 31 IV S.atk Piplup anyway.

    Flygon @ Leftovers
    Adamant
    31 Hp, 31 Atk, 31 Speed Ivs
    252atk, 252 Spd and 6 hp Ev's
    -Earthquake
    -U-Turn / Stone Edge
    -Dragon Claw / Stone Edge
    -Roost

    I like flygon and he looks better than any other dragon type pokemon out there. I might switch dragon claw or U-Turn for stone edge.

    Gardevoir @ Leftovers / Choice Scarf?
    Timid
    30 Hp, 31 Speed Ev's 31S.atk (hopefully)
    252 Hp 252 Speed and 6 S.Atk (im not sure about these Evs)
    -Thunder Bolt
    -Psychic
    -Calm Mind
    -Hynosis / Wish

    I haven't bred a ralts yet, but i might tonight.

    Dusknoir @ left overs
    31 Hp, 31 S.Def, 31 Speed Iv's
    252 Hp, 252 S.Def, 6 Atk ?
    -Fire Punch
    -Will-O-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Shadow Sneak/ Shadow Punch

    Again I will breed later.

    Skarmory @ Leftovers
    Impish
    30 Hp, 31 Def, 31 Speed
    252 Def, 252 Speed/Hp and 6 Hp/Speed
    -Drill Peck
    -Toxic
    -Stealth Rock
    -Roar

    I have a 31 Iv def female ska, so im gonna breed that with a couple of my other pokemon.

    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Adamant
    31 atk, 31 Speed, 30 Hp Iv
    252 Atk, 252 Speed and 6 Hp IV
    -Focus Punch
    -Seed Bomb
    -Substitute
    -Spore

    I got a 31 atk, 30 Hp, 31 Speed Empoleon, which im gonna breed with a Lotad . From that i hope to get a 30/31/x/x/x/31 Lotad. with that Lotad im gonna breed with a shroomish. This also is my Blissey Counter. Also i dont have much psychic counters. what should i do?

    So any suggestions? Flaming?
     

    Ársa

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    • An easy Psychic counter is an Umbreon. You can use it to your advantage with your team also.

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

    Mean Look
    Baton Pass
    Wish
    Toxic / Charm / Taunt / Protect / Yawn

    A Trap Passer. This is utilized to trap opposition with Mean Look, and then switching into a counter. A very good pokemon if your team has trouble with Walls.

    ~M51
     

    Kirioroshi

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    what do i replace it with? I can swap my Physical Empoleon with a Special Empoleon and trade Gardevoir with Umbreon.
     
    Iceman3k

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    • LemonLiceTea said:
    Hello Again. I did some intensive breeding and i got some pretty sweet IV's for certain pokemon.

    Heres what i got so Far.

    Empoleon @ Life Orb
    Adamant
    30 Hp/31 atk/31 Speed IVs
    252atk, 252 Spd and 6 hp Ev's
    -Waterfall
    -Drill Peck
    -Agility
    -Earthquake
    Decent concept. But stick with Agility + Life Orb because outrunning Heracross threats is important.

    Flygon @ Leftovers
    Adamant
    31 Hp, 31 Atk, 31 Speed Ivs
    252atk, 252 Spd and 6 hp Ev's
    -Earthquake
    -U-Turn / Stone Edge
    -Dragon Claw / Stone Edge
    -Roost

    I like flygon and he looks better than any other dragon type pokemon out there. I might switch dragon claw or U-Turn for stone edge.
    If you run Roost, you'll need a more defensive EV set.

    Gardevoir @ Leftovers / Choice Scarf?
    Timid
    30 Hp, 31 Speed Ev's 31S.atk (hopefully)
    252 Hp 252 Speed and 6 S.Atk (im not sure about these Evs)
    -Thunder Bolt
    -Psychic
    -Calm Mind
    -Hypnosis

    I haven't bred a ralts yet, but i might tonight.
    Okay, I guess. But there are more powerful and fast Sp. Sweepers.

    Dusknoir @ left overs
    31 Hp, 31 S.Def, 31 Speed Iv's
    252 Hp, 136 SDef, 120 Def
    -Fire Punch
    -Will-O-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    -Shadow Sneak

    Again I will breed later.
    Shadow Sneak.

    Skarmory @ Leftovers
    Impish
    30 Hp, 31 Def, 31 Speed
    252 Def, 208 HP, 44 Atk
    -Drill Peck
    -Roost
    -Spikes
    -Roar

    I have a 31 Iv def female ska, so im gonna breed that with a couple of my other pokemon.
    Don't ever put Speed EVs on Skarmory. He's not meant for speed, he's made only for Walling. Nothing more. Also, Spikes instead of Stealth Rock.

    Breloom @ Toxic Orb
    Jolly
    31 atk, 31 Speed, 30 Hp Iv
    252 Atk, 252 Speed and 6 Hp IV
    -Focus Punch
    -Seed Bomb
    -Substitute
    -Spore

    I got a 31 atk, 30 Hp, 31 Speed Empoleon, which im gonna breed with a Lotad . From that i hope to get a 30/31/x/x/x/31 Lotad. with that Lotad im gonna breed with a shroomish. This also is my Blissey Counter. Also i dont have much psychic counters. what should i do?

    So any suggestions? Flaming?
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    Psychic counters is only the least of your worries. You have even bigger problems like Heracross, and Electivire.
     

    Kirioroshi

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    Whats wrong with stealth rock?

    Well i might switch my Empoleon to a special sweeper.

    Empoleon @ life Orb
    Modest
    252S.atk/252Spd/6HP
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf
    -Agility
    -Grass Knot <-----

    and ill swap Gardevoir for Alakazam.

    Alakazam @ Choice Specs/Scarf/Leftovers
    Synchronize
    252 S.Atk/ 252 Spd / 6 Hp
    -Psychic
    -Charge Beam
    -Calm Mind / Thunder Wave
    -Recover / Focus Blast

    i need an electricity attack to take out gyarados and potentially other skarmornies.
     

    Eos Aduro

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    • Hmm, well TrickZam is the msot annoying Poke ver, tricks you into holding Choice Specs, anybody got a good set, im not sure.
     

    Ársa

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    • Midnight Winged said:
    Hmm, well TrickZam is the msot annoying Poke ver, tricks you into holding Choice Specs, anybody got a good set, im not sure.
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    Alakazam@Chioce Specs
    Timid
    252Spd, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 HP

    Psychic
    Trick
    Focus Blast/Shadow Ball
    Calm Mind/Grass Knot

    Depends on how you want to go, but Psychic for STAB, Trick to get the CS on an opponent, then use the time wasted by them to CM up. Focus Blast and Shadow Ball there for different purposes, and if you want, go Grass Knot over CM, for more coverage.

    ~M51
     

    Kirioroshi

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    Mullac i like that umbreon Idea.

    would this moveset work though?


    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

    Mean Look
    Baton Pass
    Wish
    Faint Attack

    so it can like attack if it needs to?
     
    Anti

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    • LemonLiceTea said:
    Mullac i like that umbreon Idea.

    would this moveset work though?


    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

    Mean Look
    Baton Pass
    Wish
    Toxic / Curse / Taunt

    so it can like attack if it needs to?
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    Umbreon's attack stats are just too low to make use of, it would be a waste.
     

    Kirioroshi

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    ah yeh, i should check the base stats first >.>

    i think i might need a water counter, like Milotics, Gyarados's maybe Starmies aswell.

    maybe something like this

    Alakazam @ CS
    Timid and Synchronize
    252Spd, 252 Sp. Atk, 6 HP
    -Charge Beam/Thunder Bolt
    -Psychic
    -Trick
    -Focus Blast/Calm Mind


    If this isn't that great i 'could' give my Dusknoir thunder punch and find another alternative counter for a Heracross, maybe skarmory can use drill peck.
     
    Sora_8920

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    Mullac51 said:
    An easy Psychic counter is an Umbreon. You can use it to your advantage with your team also.

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

    Mean Look
    Baton Pass
    Wish
    Toxic / Charm / Taunt / Protect / Yawn

    A Trap Passer. This is utilized to trap opposition with Mean Look, and then switching into a counter. A very good pokemon if your team has trouble with Walls.

    ~M51
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    Like Anti said, it has low base Attack. You never put any attack moves on it. And without a attack move on any poke, It's not a counter anything. This includes the Set you posted.
     
    Anti

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    • Itachi 2007 said:
    Like Anti said, it has low base Attack. You never put any attack moves on it. And without a attack move on any poke, It's not a counter anything. This includes the Set you posted.
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    I just said that :/ But the one thing I didn't say isn't true. Umbreon counters psychic attacks easily...

    As for Zam, it can't really hurt bulky waters (and that's if it survives the switch-in). I'd run something a a CBer or specs user to inflict some major harm. I used a specs wappy once, it destroyed teh bulky waters ;)
     

    Eos Aduro

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    • Umbreon being a physical wall and Blissey can do some major trapping, especially on annoying special sweepers. Trapping a Choice Speced Poke and switching in to blissey, you basically automatically lose that poke.
     

    Kirioroshi

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    is a mix sweeping flygon any good? i never used one before.

    If not i will just stick to a physical sweeper, since i think I'm indeed of one. i've read that i might need a rapid spinner to remove traps and etc. heres another variation.



    Empoleon w/ Life Orb
    Modest – Torrent
    6 Hp / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    -Ice Beam
    -Surf
    -Agility
    -Grass Knot

    Claydol w/ Leftovers
    Relaxed – Levitate
    236 HP / 136 Atk / 108 Def / 30 SDef
    -Rapid Spin
    -Earthquake
    -Rest
    -Psychic

    Skarmory w/ Leftovers
    Impish – Keen Eyes
    208 Hp / 44 Atk / 252 Def
    -Drill Peck
    -Spikes
    -Roost
    -Roar

    Dusknoir w/ Leftovers
    Careful – Pressure
    252 Hp / 120 Def / 138 SDef
    -Will-O-Wisp
    -Shadow Sneak
    -Pain Split
    -Fire Punch

    Flygon w/ Choice Band
    Jolly – Levitate
    6 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    - Flame Thrower
    - Earthquake
    - Roost / Dragon Claw
    - U-Turn

    Umbreon w/ Leftovers
    Calm – Synchronize
    252 Hp / 252 Def / 6 SDef
    -Mean Look
    -Wish
    -Baton Pass
    -Toxic


    If the Claydol doesn't work, ill probably use a Trickazam.

    The reason why i use a 252/252/6 spread is because i really don't know how to distribute EV's. These things i will learn in time.
     
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    ChrisG14

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    • I can't believe that no one mentioned Payback on Umbreon. WTF?

    He's got enough lasting power to hit back with Payback.

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    252 Hp / 252 Def / 6 SDef
    -Mean Look/Curse
    -Wish
    -Baton Pass
    -Toxic/Payback

    But I guess your going for Toxitrapping. Beware Steels and Weezing/Vilplume then.
     

    Kirioroshi

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    If i see a steel/poison coming i'll probably switch to Claydol, besides i need something that can trap and etc.

    Eh i Just Bred this

    Duskull - #355 (Careful)
    HP: 0 - 9
    Att: 20 - 31
    Def: 21, 26, 31
    SpA: 0 - 6
    SpD: 20 - 31
    Speed: 17 - 24

    Should i use it?
     
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