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My normal battling team. No knowledge of anime required

Strawberry Delcatty

Neko daisuki-na no nya!
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    EDIT: I always keep forgetting to add this. NO SUBSTITUTE OR ANYTHING REVOLVING AROUND IT PLEASE.

    Persian (M) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Limber
    EVs: 129 HP / 129 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Charm
    - Return
    - Shadow Ball
    - Toxic
    I love Persian. My non-theme teams have at least either a Persian or Delcatty.

    Aggron (M) @ Ganlon Berry
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Aerial Ace
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Thunder Wave
    I think I covered everything on Aggron. Thunder Wave to slow down opponents, and attack with one of the three above moves.

    Raichu (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Static
    EVs: 255 HP / 255 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Brick Break
    - Sweet Kiss
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish
    When Thunderbolt/Static does its job of paralysis, Sweet Kiss away. Wish to recover when necessary.

    Breloom (F) @ Salac Berry
    Trait: Effect Spore
    EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Bulk Up
    - HP Ghost/Rock
    - Mach Punch
    - Spore
    I have Mach Punch so after Bulk Up, I can use the power right away. I'm choosing between HP Rock for Flyers or HP Ghost for Psychics.

    Lapras (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 SAtk / 129 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Attract
    - Confuse Ray
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam for STAB, but I'm thinking to dump it for Surf.

    Ninetales (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 129 HP / 129 SAtk / 252 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Grudge
    - Heat Wave
    - Safeguard
    - Will-O-Wisp
    I like Grudge. If Ninetales get KO'd, the opponent's best move becomes worthless.
     
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    Nekomajo Asunya said:
    Persian (M) @ Lum Berry
    Trait: Limber
    EVs: 129 HP / 129 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Charm
    - Return
    - Shadow Ball
    - Toxic
    I love Persian. My non-theme teams have at least either a Persian or Delcatty.

    i dont know a persian set but have fake out

    Aggron (M) @ Ganlon Berry
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Aerial Ace
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Thunder Wave
    I think I covered everything on Aggron. Thunder Wave to slow down opponents, and attack with one of the three above moves.

    sub, focus punch, rock slide/earthquake, rockslide/earthquake/hp ghost/fire blast/flamethrower or something along those lines... if you dont use Fb/t then use adamant nature... 129 sp attack evs if you are using fb/t; leftovers

    Raichu (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Static
    EVs: 255 HP / 255 Spd
    Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef)
    - Brick Break
    - Sweet Kiss
    - Thunderbolt
    - Wish
    When Thunderbolt/Static does its job of paralysis, Sweet Kiss away. Wish to recover when necessary.

    sub, t wave, t bolt, surf... you wasted 6 evs cuz 252 is the max... 252 sp attack, 252 speed, 6 hp; timid nature

    Breloom (F) @ Salac Berry
    Trait: Effect Spore
    EVs: 255 Atk / 255 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Bulk Up
    - HP Ghost/Rock
    - Mach Punch
    - Spore
    I have Mach Punch so after Bulk Up, I can use the power right away. I'm choosing between HP Rock for Flyers or HP Ghost for Psychics.

    s dance > bulk up... if you have s dance or keep bulk up, youll need sub somewhere... other wise spore is useless; again you wated 6 evs

    Lapras (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 129 SAtk / 129 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Attract
    - Confuse Ray
    - Ice Beam
    - Thunderbolt
    Ice Beam for STAB, but I'm thinking to dump it for Surf.

    tbolt > attract, calm/bold nature; some def evs from sp attack is an option

    Ninetales (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 129 HP / 129 SAtk / 252 SDef
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Grudge
    - Heat Wave
    - Safeguard
    - Will-O-Wisp
    I like Grudge. If Ninetales get KO'd, the opponent's best move becomes worthless.

    wow, c ray, attract, flamethrower... hope your opponent doesnt have sub; max speed and timid nature
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    He said he didn't want to use sub or anything that revolves around it.

    Lapras:I'd take Surf over attract

    Raichu:If you put 255/255 your wasting EVs as Klducks said, so, 252 Sp. attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP, and OA over Brick Break. If you want you could put T-wave over Sweet Kiss.
     
    REALLY bad idea not using Substitute. Seriously, what do you have against it? Sigh... lemme see here...

    Persian: Needs Hypnosis. Persian has the fastest Sleep move in the game off 115 base speed, but watch out for that 60% crapshoot. Fake Out sounds interesting too. Return/Shadow Ball/Hypnosis, for the fourth move, Iron Tail or HP Fighting.

    Aggron: I'm thinking a CB set (Rock Slide/Earthquake/Double Edge/Iron Tail or HP Steel) would work best here.

    Raichu: use klducks suggestion.

    Breloom: Without Sub you're screwed. Can't help you here.

    Lapras: Surf/Tbolt/Ice Beam/whatever

    Ninetales: le sigh... just use klducks suggestion. HP Grass is an option for Waters/Rocks/Grounds over Attract, but don't count on it working.

    Good luck.
     
    Persian@Liechi Berry
    EV: 252 Speed, 252 Att, 6 Def
    Nature: + Speed, - Sp Att
    Fake Out
    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball
    Return

    People underestimate the speed of Persian, so outspeed those Gengar and frighten them!
     
    What do you have against substitute? It's not an Uber move or anything. If anything, it's just good. Alot of pokemon wouldn't work well without substitute. Aggron is an example. Substitute lets it set up against something that might kill it in one hit, when the opponent switches into it. Opponent sent out Snorlax. You used sub. Snorlax used sub, and you focus punch. You do so till you win. What's so bad about sub?
     
    If you have problems fighting against opponents who use Substitute, as I did for a while, then you need multi-hit moves on your Pokemon. Something like Rock Blast (anti-Ninjask), Bonemerang (anti-Subpunching Tyranitar/Aggron/Rhydon, and Jolteon), Beat Up (if you want to scare Blissey), Double Kick (anti-Sublax). The Substitute dies on the first attack of these moves, while the second and subsequent ones does damage to the opponent.
     
    So, in a way you're speaking from ignorance. Don't knock it until you try it, and then you see just how 'cheap' or not it really is.
     
    Another thing I'll add.

    If it's an online team, then go for HP Rock over HP Ghost.. You'll encounter both Flyers and Psychics, but through my experience, I've came across more flyers than psychics..
    Namely Salamence, Aero, D'Nite, Charizard and the Legendary Birds..

    AND if an admin on Smogon sees this, PLEASE UNBAN GAME OVER. PLEASE.
     
    Toothache said:
    If you have problems fighting against opponents who use Substitute, as I did for a while, then you need multi-hit moves on your Pokemon. Something like Rock Blast (anti-Ninjask), Bonemerang (anti-Subpunching Tyranitar/Aggron/Rhydon, and Jolteon), Beat Up (if you want to scare Blissey), Double Kick (anti-Sublax). The Substitute dies on the first attack of these moves, while the second and subsequent ones does damage to the opponent.
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    Those seem like a good idea. However, the best thing I have is Extremespeed on my Arcanine on my Ojamajo Doremi team. And I doubt that none of my Pokemon can learn those moves... *wishes that Persian can learn Beat Up*
     
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