My NOT SUCKY team

[Scyther]

Er...not to brag, but my blaziken's attack is 309, to be exact....and I didn't even know about EV training back then!!XD

And Syther, you cannot drop a Blaziken. It will hypnotize you, I swear.XD


Actually, blaziken's can be 00ber if Attack EV trained. Trust me, Frosty knows. Right, frosty??XD

i think blaziken is overestimated i mean a well trained torcoal can kick the stuffing out of blaziken ( i have already tested my therey)

 

[Pogiforce-14]

That's onlly because torkoal can use ground moves that Blziekn can't that blaziken would be weak to. but because of that, that also makes Torkoal weaker to a alrger vcariety of types adn a resistance to less a variety of types than Blaziken.

To be honest, it's starting to sound more like a matter of opinion rather than what is truly better.

 

[Skrin]

But a blaziken can also kick a Torkal in the posterior if trained properly as well.XD

And yeah, this is sounding more like a debate than a rate. Let's wait till frosty comes on, and he'll rate this entire team.

 

[Mana Lugia]

A couple, although I don't think that's really Blaziken's problem. his attack is 271, and his special attack is 245. I finished editing rayquaza

Blaziken's Max Neutral Lv 100 attack: 308-339
Blaziken's Max Neutral Lv 100 Special Attack: 288-319

Assuming 252 EVs in each stat.

The only other EV I can see you adding EVs to at all would be Speed or HP, but...

 

[Mew9]

there is a thread about wat is wrong w/ Solarbeaming Groudon, started by me. i new it shoulda been stickied. look in my profile and find threads started by me. thats the easiest way to find it. ur team ain't that great, and if u think u take everything down too fast, go face Skarmory. ur team ends there. no hope. in game guys can be beaten easily, but other human players would crush u.

 

[Xilion_Sword90]

But a blaziken can also kick a Torkal in the posterior if trained properly as well.XD

Exactly. Try: Iron Defense, Toxic, Rest with Chesto and Return and se what happens to Blaziken

 

[Skrin]

Yeah, but try a EQ+BB combo BEFORE Torkal can Iron defense. Dead torkal.XD

(Stupid 25 char. limit...)

 

[Finglonger]

well, if youre after a good sceptile set you could always try toxistaller
Sceptile@whatever
-leaf blade
-toxic
-leech seed
-protect/sub/some stall move : )

indirect damage can be fun : D

 

[Simon]

I thinl Ludicolo is more well-suited for Toxistalling than Sceptile.

 

[Spike Razzor]

Challenged to put up my team and their moves by Bob V. he think they suck, and I beg to differ. so I'm putting them up for all to see, because i got pride in their skills, and he best remember it.

Blaziken, Lv. 100
Fire Blast
Flamethrower
Brick Break
Sky Uppercut
Basicly, you only have 2 moves if your gonna use this. A Ghost Pokemon could kill your Blaziken easy... If you had Rockslide, or some other form of physical attack you could knock out an attacking Gengar...

Sceptile lv. 100
Leaf Blade
Mega Drain
Cut
Dragon Claw
Explain to me why it has Cut and Mega Drain? Cut is useless in all versions and you have Leaf Blade, so Megadrain isn't needed.

Swampert lv.100
Surf
muddy Water
Earthquake
ice Beam
This is almost the same as Sceptile, you using 2 moves of the same type for some unknown reason.

Manectric lv. 100
return
shockwave
Thunder
Thunderbolt
This moveset is porbably one of the worse I have seen... It has 0 useage against anything but Flying/Water.

groudon lv. 100
eruption
earthquake
fireblast
solarbeam
Eruption/Water Spout are only good if you have lots of HP left after and attack, all your opponent needs to do is hit you down to half and Eruption is useless, plus, Groudon has a poor Sp. Atk so Eruption, Fire Blast and Solar Beam are useless again an opponent. Even with an automatic Sunny Day effect you can still get beat down by something that is Grass... Meganium with Light Screen would waste Groudon in no time.

rayquaza lv. 100
fly
Dragon Claw
Ice Beam
Outrage
Fly is unusable unless its has something to do with your moveset, such as Fly + Toxic. Aerial Ace would be much better that dodging 1 attack and giving your opponent time to switch to something with a strong defencive. And why does it need Ice Beam? It has a x4 from Ice so why not have Brick Break or Flamethrower? Abuse its High Atk and Sp. Atk stats, don't waste them.


so please review it. iv'e nothing more to ask or say other than that my pride for my team and my pride as a trainer is on the line.

I'm not even going to joke why I say it was a waste to even bother looking at this team. If you were battling someone it would be like them them getting a free win. Learn more about making movesets before you evn bother posting it...

A.) Groudon has nearly all teh bases covered thanks to solarbeam.
B.) It's going to be a short fight because they don't really ahve anything he can't handle.

A.) Groudon has low Sp. Atk, most Water Pokemon has greater speed than that of Groudon (which mean it dies faster).

B.) Water Pokemon can learn Ice Beam, so Drought won't help you when they start pummeling you.

C.) Groudon is a physical hitter, why do you think it has such High Atk and Def? Even with Drought in effect you still lose 1/2 of your HP from a strong Surf attack. So packing it with a buch of Sp. Atk's is a waste of time.

D.) Kingdra alone could kill you whole team if you havn't noticed...

 

[Finglonger]

I thinl Ludicolo is more well-suited for Toxistalling than Sceptile.

eh, sceptile works just as well, it has liek what two more weaknesses than ludi, and many more resistances =/

 

[Simon]

That doesn't make much sense. Only Poison type attacks are SE agaisnt Ludicolo since it's dual type and Sceptile has 5 weaknesses.

 

[Spike Razzor]

That doesn't make much sense. Only Poison type attacks are SE agaisnt Ludicolo since it's dual type and Sceptile has 5 weaknesses.

Ludicolo is that funny looking Water/Grass thing right? Well, it has 2 weaknesses. Poison and Bug.

 

[Simon]

Well in that case Sceptile has 6 weaknesses then.

 

[Spike Razzor]

Well in that case Sceptile has 6 weaknesses then.

Fire, Ice, Flying, Posion, Bug. I think thats all. Anymore and Grass would be unusable =P, good thing Sceptile has good stats. And how comes no one uses HP-Rock on Grass types? it takes out all its weaknesses except for Poison?

 

[Finglonger]

er ludicolo has flying, bug, posion and loses resistance to grass and lightning, and sceptile has better stats.

and I know ludicolo can toxistall better than sceptile =/
but you have to take into account that people expect ludicolo to toxistall, whereas sceptile is not expected to : )

 

[Frostweaver]

It's time to end this rather useless debate while one side is obviously the victor... I'll sweep this up (sorry was delated because of work). I mean how skilled can a trainer be without knowing the basic rule of the strategy forum that one posts nature, EV and items along with moves? Plus when I heard of 3 starters I already have a feeling of "this can't be that nice..." Seriously, I haven't faced a team with all 3 starters that my Yanma can't beat yet, well maybe not this one because of 2 ubars that come along with it.


HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS: HYPERBEAM SUCKS CRAP

-2 turn move that does 140 dmg, which means it's just 70 each turn, making it equal to facade and worst than return... not to mention, after the 140 it's a free turn "please dragon dance"
-it's not even gurantee OHKO like danced Kingdra pump, or anything like that
-it's not like it's SE against a lot of stuff... in fact, none
-in fact, all 2 turn moves suck except for fly/dive as they can stall for toxic/leech seed sometimes... but it's still rarely used.


Groudon and Solarbeam
-ok big deal 299 MAX sp.atk using solarbeam without STAB... and grass attacks suck and we all know that? It sucks to all but water and ground... which isn't too bad, but considering that Groudon has a 399 atk to burn off...
-you'll have to do a lot of careful work with EV splitting whenever you're introducing solarbeam... plus if you dump in EV for sp.atk only using solarbeam, that's kinda a waste so you gotta invest in overheat as well (which is actually quite recommanded along with white herb... makes a nice combo). If EV is done well, Groudon with solarbeam and earthquake will work very well like what Mana said awhile ago, but certainly you Pogiforce from the looks of things is certainly not a trainer as strong as Mana or anyone else in his level of battling... I strongly recommand you to just drop solarbeam for now until you get the grasp of battling. In fact, all mix sweepers are very hard to balance the EVs out.
-and tell me, isn't this moveset one right out of the original movepool of Groudon? lol... fire blast and eruption are redoned... it really shows your experience right off the bat like this. Only normal type attacks are sometimes duplicated (if one of them is QA/ES, or explosion)


2 Same Type Attack
-basically, if you have 2 of them, you'll only be using one... why the heck would you use sky uppercut if you got brick break? Ahem... and no one uses fly so don't say "SU is for flyers" >>;
-that's wasting attack slots, and lacking efficiency
-and a gengar can almost always beat Blaziken anyway ;p


Sceptile
-well it's explained already
-Sceptile can stall just as well as Ludicolo, but in a different method... Ludicolo tanks up, but Sceptile relies on speed to stall...

Sceptile- [speed + / atk or sp.atk -] @ leftovers
EV: Speed, mixed stuff
-leaf blade/focus punch
-hp ice/hp rock
-leech seed
-substitute

Use leech seed, and endure a hit (and say "luck!" if they switch to something that's not aero or crobat, or a grass type). Then just keep using sub until they're too weak and finish them off. WIht leftovers and leech seed, you don't waste any hp using sub so it works out just fine! Sceptile CAN go focus punch as I used one for a month... it can't kill anything BUT Skarmbliss.


Swampert
-well at least by sheer luck you got 3 usable moves here... just dump MW for rest/roar/protect
-in this case, aren't you messing around with yourself using sunny day to screw up your water attacks? o.o;


Manectric
-hey at least it doesn't have spark over return...?
-just refer to the advanced trainer's guide already


Rayquaza
-"look mommy it's the 2nd Ubar on the same team already along with 3 OU AHHHH!!! Oh wait mommy, it used outrage! I'll just send out my Clefable and let my Clefable calm mind up to thrash his team! Oh look it's confused and it's hitting itself! *CM* Hey now it uses fly! *free turn CM, and softboils and the turn it lands* Look it's trying ot switch to Blaziken! *thunderbolt with 6 calm mind*"


Kingdra can't hit the entire team actually... thanks to Ubar Rayquaza who'll kill off rain dance. luck isn't it? Ubar reliant... and if you are really so hot, come on to NB, and don't cry from your 90% losses... (I'll be the 10% because seriously Yanma and UU friends can't take on 2 ubars with 3 OU regardless of how crappy they are.. when their total stats are like 400 more than all of my Pokemon in total... brutal stats will kill me blah x_x) seriously. there's like many MANY advices given to you from various NB players who all agree that this team needs a LOT of rework to do... listen, and think about it.

 

[Mana Lugia]

Hyper beam has 150 power, you're 10 off :-x

 

[BigBoss]

-and a gengar can almost always beat Blaziken anyway ;p

Heh, Thanks to my Blaziken's 318 Sp attack, Overheat and bye bye Gengar, and I just swich out Blaziken and it's sp attack is back up again!

 

[Simon]

Idiot. Gengar is faster than Blaziken. Psychic, buh-bye Blaziken.