My Potential Team.

[Red Rain]

Hia I'm just needing opinions on my potential team I have. I'd like your opinions. I've used various sources to help me with my team ideas.

Alakazam: Timid with Life Orb/Choice Specs
Focus Blast
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
252 Spd, 252 Sp.Atk, 6 HP.

Rhyperior: Adamant with Leftovers
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Avalanche
Megahorn.
252 HP, 178 Def, 80 Atk.

Miltank: Impish with Leftovers
Milk Drink
Earthquake
Return
Heal Bell.
252 HP, 148 Atk, 108 Def.

Slowbro: Bold with Leftovers
Calm Mind
Surf
Slack Off
Psychic.
212 HP, 252 Def, 46 Sp.Atk.

Absol: Jolly with Leftovers/Razor Claw
Psycho Cut
Stone Edge
Night Slash
Swords Dance.
Atk 252, Spd 252, HP 6.

Magnezone: Calm with Leftovers
Reflect
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise
Metal Sound.
252 Sp.Atk, 252 Sp.Def, 6 HP.

Magmortar: Modest with Choice Scarf
Flamethrower
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Psychic.
252 Sp.Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP.

Milotic: Calm with Leftovers
Surf
Mirror Coat
Recover
Toxic.
252 Def, 129 HP, 129 Sp.Def.

Ninjask: Adamant with Liechi Berry
X-Scissor
Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass.
252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP.

Salamence: Adamant with Leftovers
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Roost.
120 HP, 252 Atk, 138 Spd.

Togekiss: Modest with Leftovers
Nasty Plot
Reflect
Flamethrower
Air Slash.
252 Sp.Atk, 152 Sp.Def, 106 HP.

Vespiquen: Adamant with Leftovers
Protect
Defend Order
Heal Order
Attack Order.
252 HP, 129 Atk, 129 Sp.Def.

Blissey: Bold with Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave. POTW
6 HP, 252 Sp.Atk, 252 Def.

Bronzong: Bold/Impish with Leftovers
Block
Earthquake
Toxic
Light Screen
252 Def, 200 Sp.Def, 52 Spd, 6 HP.

 

[El Gofre]

Hia I'm just needing opinions on my potential team I have. I'd like your opinions. I've used various sources to help me with my team ideas.

Blissey: Bold with Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave.
148 HP, 104Sp.Atk, 252Def.
Bulking blissey's defence is pointless without HP EVs backing it up. That's the new standard spread (I think :))

Togekiss: Modest with Leftovers
Nasty Plot
Reflect
Flamethrower
Air Slash.
252 Sp.Atk, 152 Sp.Def, 106 HP.
No idea on this poke, sorry

Salamence: Adamant with Leftovers
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Roost/Stone Edge.
120 HP, 252 Atk, 138 Spd.
Specsmence kick's physical mence's ass in my opinion, but this looks ok.

Ninjask: Adamant with Liechi Berry
X-Scissor
Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass.
252 Spd, 252 HP, 6 Att.
Without HP EVs your subs are gonna get munched down like candy. Swords dance is there to oost attack so concentrate on HP EV-wise

Milotic: Calm with Leftovers
Surf
Mirror Coat/Ice Beam/Aqua Ring
Recover
Toxic/Hypnosis
252 Def, 129 HP, 129 Sp.Def.
Yay full walling milotic, thats what i like to see.

Magnezone: Calm with Leftovers
Reflect
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise
Metal Sound.
252 Sp.Atk, 252 Sp.Def, 6 HP.
No idea again, sorry

I have more 6 more Pokemon ideas and I'll post them later.

Changes in bold. It all looks ok, but you have no dedicated physical wall. And no special sweeper. Togekiss could be if you gave it speed EVs, but at the moment you special attackers are going to be lagging behind.

 

[Red Rain]

Wow you have made me realise about that Ninjask. I might actually train another as I only get 4 Subs in. Great wake-up call there. Thanks for replying aswell.

Here's the Alakazam that I have. It's EV trained already. This would be my Special Sweeper.

Alakazam: Timid with ??? (at the mo)
Focus Blast
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
252 Spd, 252 Sp.Atk, 6 HP.

 

[El Gofre]

Yeah that's fine, go specs or life orb for the item. I think there's an alternative but those are the items i give it.
EDIT: Ooh give jask lefties, so you can get the 4th sub.

 

[Outlawed]

Ugh, very messy team here. You have no real means of attacking except Magnezone and Salamence. Both Literaly owned by Aerodactyl....
Ice Sharded Weavile or Donphan will kill your ninjask so yeah you gotta change that. also Milotec, Blissey, Togekiss and Magnezone is going overboard with Specialness. Baton passer just for your dragon dancing Mence..... no. sorry.

 

[Ársa]

Hia I'm just needing opinions on my potential team I have. I'd like your opinions. I've used various sources to help me with my team ideas.

Blissey: Bold with Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave.
106 Sp. Atk, 148 HP, 252 Def.

Hope this isn't your lead. Run with Ninjask first plesh.

Togekiss: Modest/Calm with Leftovers
Nasty Plot
Aura Sphere
Flamethrower/Wish
Air Slash.
248 HP, 186 Sp. Atk, 74 Sp. Def/Def

Make it a tad more bulky, and you can perhaps provide some Wish support. You seemed to want to be more attacking, so I left quite a few EV in sp. Atk, but really they should be evened out in the Defenses.

Salamence: Adamant with Life Orb/Leftovers
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Brick Break
Flamethrower
120 HP, 252 Atk, 138 Spd.

You have Ninjask to pass to this, so why are you running DD? Run that please, Flamethrower is for Skarm and Forry. Unfortunately, have no idea on the EV's.

Ninjask: Jolly with Liechi Berry
X-Scissor
Substitute
Protect
Baton Pass.
252 Spd, 252 HP, 6 Atk.

Protect, then sub, then protect, then sub, right down to Liechi, then BP.

Milotic: Bold with Leftovers
Surf
Recover
Hypnosis
HP ELECTRIC
172 HP, 16 Sp. Atk, 196 Sp. Def, 128 Def

NO NO NO! It cannot Toxic Stall to save itself. HP ELECTRIC for those Gyara and bulky waters who own you otherwise.

Magnezone: Mild with Leftovers
Explosion
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise
HP ICE/GRASS
252 Sp.Atk, 220 Def, 20 HP, 16 Atk.

Magnezone has better Physical Defense, so you should aim with that. Explosion so you can take Blissey to the cleaners, hence Mild nature. HP ICE for Dragons once you Magnet Rise, and HP GRASS for things like Swampert and T-Tar. (Once you Magnet Rise)

I have more 6 more Pokemon ideas and I'll post them later.

OK, not the best team you have there. No true Physical Wall. I am hoping you didn't post Blissey first because it is your Lead, Ninjask is there for that.

 

[Anti]

Hia I'm just needing opinions on my potential team I have. I'd like your opinions. I've used various sources to help me with my team ideas.

Blissey: Bold with Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Aromatherapy
Toxic
6 HP, 252 Sp.Atk, 252 Def.

Para support on a team with Ninjask is crazy. Don't lead with this BTW. Don't listen to the others about leading with Ninjask since it's an equally horrible lead.

Togekiss: Modest with Leftovers
Nasty Plot
Reflect
Flamethrower
Air Slash.
252 Sp.Atk, 152 Sp.Def, 106 HP.

I guess, a Togekiss expert I am not.

Salamence: Adamant with Leftovers
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Flamethrower / Fire Blast
120 HP, 252 Atk, 138 Spd.

Deedeemence without a Fire Move is kinda crappy. You don't even need Roost anyways.

Ninjask: Adamant with Liechi Berry
X-Scissor
Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass.
252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP.

consider Jolly if you fear Speed Deoxys, which will give your team a tough time.

Milotic: Calm with Leftovers
Surf
Mirror Coat
Recover
Toxic.
252 Def, 129 HP, 129 Sp.Def.

Ew, the Mirror Coater needs way more SDef. the 128/128/252 spreads just are kinda thumbs down.

Magnezone: Calm with Leftovers
Hidden Power [Ice]
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise
Metal Sound.
252 Sp.Atk, 252 Sp.Def, 6 HP.

Another pokemon walled by Bulky grounds is a no-go. Also Modest nature if you want to kill Blissey and Life Orb is better.

I have more 6 more Pokemon ideas and I'll post them later.

I didn't even mess the EVs since the spreads were generally a wreck.

For those who say leading with Ninjask on a team that isn't even a full BP team is smart, I have a few choice words for you. All that does is let them know that you want to pull off a speed pass and your strategy will become obvious and easy to counter.

Ninjask is best left hidden until that PHazer doesn't scare you anymore, and then leap into action. You have to time when you want to pull off the pass just right or it won't really work. Ninjask is so predictable you have to make it work.

This team does well with special attackers buts gets CREAMED by physical attackers, especially those that will break Milotic (cough Electivire cough)

You really don't have any answer for any superpower around and hoping Ninjask has some speed passed will not be good enough.

 

[Ársa]

Ninjask shouldn't be used at all, it is too easily countered, and more often than not in comes Skarm to blow you away. He wanted to use it. What other pokemon should he lead with? Salamence perhaps? That is the only true pokemon really, and without Choice Band he'll be switching out against Gyarados leads, as well as common Porygon-Z leads etc.

He wanted to use Ninjask, so I gave him a set. I simply said it should be used as a lead Because he has no other real lead. The whole point of Ninjask is to pass to Salamence, so if he leads with it and it is KO'd, Ninjask becomes redundent.

~T_S

 

[Skaterzpenguin]

ummm interesting team... 8/10 :\

 

[Ársa]

How does that help him at all? Rate my Team doesn't really mean "Give me a rating out of 10!". It means he wants help with the movesets and which pokemon he should use.

~T_S

 

[Anti]

Ninjask shouldn't be used at all,

lol

it is too easily countered,

Not if you actually know how to use it.

and more often than not in comes Skarm to blow you away.

You'd be stupid to try to set up with Ninjask when skarmory is still alive and well :/

He wanted to use it.

And you're saying Ninjask sholdn't be used at all. Okaaaaay.

What other pokemon should he lead with? Salamence perhaps? That is the only true pokemon really,

Um Milotic :/ Bulky water leads are great since CBers run off and Gengar gets Mirror Coat. Weavile can't even hurt Milotic.

and without Choice Band he'll be switching out against Gyarados leads,

Even with choice Band Mence will switch out. the only time it should stay in is if it has choice specs Draco Meteor to OHKO gyarados.

as well as common Porygon-Z leads etc.

Porygon-Z isn't common at all and it's easily predicted if it's the scarfer. If not, Salamence can kill it.

He wanted to use Ninjask, so I gave him a set. I simply said it should be used as a lead Because he has no other real lead.

Oh, I do not like to be scolded! also you just started babbling on about Salamence. Again Milotic is a great lead. It can stop almost anything. Really I'd rather lead with Magnezone than Ninjask and you can quote me on that.

The whole point of Ninjask is to pass to Salamence, so if he leads with it and it is KO'd, Ninjask becomes redundent.

Yeah and who let's it get KOed?

~T_S

If if if if if if if if if if. That's all I ever hear anymore!

Seriously Ninjask is an absolutely terribly lead unless it's a CBer...I'ed rather lead with Blissey. I'm not even kidding.

Seriously when Ninjask isn't on a BP team you need to work around that (as in not being stupid and trying to pass with it in the early game).

 

[Ársa]

Ninjask shouldn't be used at all,

You have no problem stating your personal opinion, but when I state mine it is "lol'?

Not if you actually know how to use it.

Which is the major problem

You'd be stupid to try to set up with Ninjask when skarmory is still alive and well :/

And yet people do...

And you're saying Ninjask sholdn't be used at all. Okaaaaay.

I said, that if he wants to use Ninjask he can. I don't use Ninjask, because I don't like it. I cannot tell him "DO NOT USE NINJASK BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT!" can I? He wants it on his team, so I try to help that way. You hit me, I hit back. This is no longer about his team is it?

Um Milotic :/ Bulky water leads are great since CBers run off and Gengar gets Mirror Coat. Weavile can't even hurt Milotic.

W/E

Even with choice Band Mence will switch out. the only time it should stay in is if it has choice specs Draco Meteor to OHKO gyarados.

Your point being now? It doesn't have Choice Specs. You are contradicting your contradiction...

Porygon-Z isn't common at all and it's easily predicted if it's the scarfer. If not, Salamence can kill it.

Porygon-Z is common, something like 8 on the most used leads on Shoddy last time I checked.

Oh, I do not like to be scolded! also you just started babbling on about Salamence. Again Milotic is a great lead. It can stop almost anything. Really I'd rather lead with Magnezone than Ninjask and you can quote me on that.

I said the only true lead there would be Slamence, and he is wasting a move slot with Dragon Dance if he is going to be BP'ing from Ninjask. If you want to lead with Blissey, go for your life, I'm not one to stop you.

Yeah and who let's it get KOed?

If you run it as a lead it will be. Not to mention leading with his only half decent Physical Wall and it most likely being KO'd in the short term is no solution. Lead with Milotic if you like, I actually won the battle tower with a Milotic Lead, but the abundance of Specs-Z out there as leads is more than you think.

~T_S

 

[luke]

Yay! Warnings for everyone. Check your PMs. :D

 

[Arcknight316]

Oh noez! Flame War!

UNSPAMMIFIER:

Why the Mild on 'Zone? I prefer lowering the lower stat. Like, on mixed 'Vire, Mild > Rash.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Ninjask and Zone ?


Ninjask@Nothing
176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Thief
- X-Scissor
- Baton pass
- Substitute

Poor Ninjask always has problems with that mean skarmory whirwinding/Roaring it away(Ninjask rarely has time to swords dance aswell=(), well with this set, Thief nags his shed shell and make Skarm know what its like to fear magnets again aka rape him with magnezone =). Even if they dont use Skarm to PHaze you, robbing things Leftovers cripples them, its like Knock Off, except you get their item.

 

[boo836]

Hia I'm just needing opinions on my potential team I have. I'd like your opinions. I've used various sources to help me with my team ideas.

Blissey: Bold with Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave.
160 HP, 38 spdef 60 Sp.Atk, 252 Def.
I do not like max spatt on her.
Togekiss: Modest with Leftovers
Nasty Plot
Reflect
Flamethrower/wish
Air Slash.
252 Sp.Atk, 144 Sp.Def, 62 HP 52 def

Dunno, but that's my guess
Salamence: Adamant with Leftovers
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
brick break.
120 HP, 252 Atk, 138 Spd.

Donphan: @ lefties
Impish
I can't remember evs.
Ice shard
earthquake
stealth rock
rapid spin

Yeah, spinner is needed. SR will be the end of your team.

Milotic: Calm with Leftovers
Surf
Mirror Coat
Recover
Toxic.
252 Def, 129 HP, 129 Sp.Def.

Dunno.

Magnezone: Calm with Leftovers
Reflect/Substitute?
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise
Hp ice.
252 Sp.Atk, 252 Sp.Def, 6 HP.



I have more 6 more Pokemon ideas and I'll post them later.

YOU will die to stealth rock without a spinner. Also, please type in the proper format.

 

[Red Rain]

Ok, I am going to on board all your commetns and other than the small arguments, I thankyou for your valid help.

1st Post Updated

Here are all the 12 ideas I have for a team. Which 6 would you put together?

Alakazam: Timid with Life Orb/Choice Specs
Focus Blast
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
252 Spd, 252 Sp.Atk, 6 HP.

Rhyperior: Adamant with Leftovers
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Avalanche
Megahorn.
252 HP, 178 Def, 80 Atk.

Miltank: Impish with Leftovers
Milk Drink
Earthquake
Return
Heal Bell.
252 HP, 148 Atk, 108 Def.

Slowbro: Bold with Leftovers
Calm Mind
Surf
Slack Off
Psychic.
212 HP, 252 Def, 46 Sp.Atk.

Absol: Jolly with Leftovers/Razor Claw
Psycho Cut
Stone Edge
Night Slash
Swords Dance.
Atk 252, Spd 252, HP 6.

Magnezone: Calm with Leftovers
Reflect
Thunderbolt
Magnet Rise
Metal Sound.
252 Sp.Atk, 252 Sp.Def, 6 HP.

Magmortar: Modest with Choice Scarf
Flamethrower
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Psychic.
252 Sp.Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP.

Milotic: Calm with Leftovers
Surf
Mirror Coat
Recover
Toxic.
252 Def, 129 HP, 129 Sp.Def.

Ninjask: Adamant with Liechi Berry
X-Scissor
Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass.
252 Spd, 252 Atk, 6 HP.

Salamence: Adamant with Leftovers
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Roost.
120 HP, 252 Atk, 138 Spd.

Togekiss: Modest with Leftovers
Nasty Plot
Reflect
Flamethrower
Air Slash.
252 Sp.Atk, 152 Sp.Def, 106 HP.

Vespiquen: Adamant with Leftovers
Protect
Defend Order
Heal Order
Attack Order.
252 HP, 129 Atk, 129 Sp.Def.

Blissey: Bold with Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Softboiled
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave. POTW
6 HP, 252 Sp.Atk, 252 Def.

Bronzong: Bold/Impish with Leftovers
Block
Earthquake
Toxic
Light Screen
252 Def, 200 Sp.Def, 52 Spd, 6 HP.

Thanks, bare in mind, some of the Pokemon in my "proposed" team are there due to them being my favourites, etc.

 

[boo836]

Dude, then you just have changed this thread to a make a team for me. You want us to rate , then have the team ready. OH and razor claw is banned due to being hax.