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My Team

Manser

Omnipresent Trainer
    • 17
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    20
    Years
    Here's my team:

    Steelix@leftovers/leichi berry
    Adamant
    252 attack, 136 special defence, 100 HP, 22 defence
    Earthquake
    Roar
    HP bug
    rock slide

    My physical wall/sweeper. Takes care of many pokemon.

    Umbreon@leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, rest so the defences are equal...
    mean look
    baton pass
    wish
    taunt/confuse ray/ toxic/curse

    Curse maybe for passing to Steelix...

    Weezing@leftovers
    Bold
    252 defence, 96 special defence, 120 HP, 42 special attack
    Will-o-wisp
    Haze
    Pain split
    T.bolt

    Tank, hazer, blisskarm counter.

    Alakazam@lum berry
    Modest
    252 special attack, 252 speed, 6 HP
    Psychic
    Thunderpunch
    Firepunch
    Ice punch

    Special sweeper. I prefer modest.

    Jolteon@petaya berry
    Timid
    252 speed, 180 special attack, 72 special defence, 6 HP
    T.bolt
    HP grass
    agility
    baton pass

    Works with Alakazam

    Vaporeon@Leftovers
    Modest
    252 HP, 152 special attack, 106 special defence
    Wish
    Acid armor
    Surf
    Ice beam

    That's it. Any comments would be appreciated.
     
    Steelix@Leftovers
    Nature:Adamant
    EVs:252 Attack, 252 HP, 6 Sp. def
    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    HP Steel/Iron Tail
    Explosion

    Alakazam@Petaya Berry
    Nature:Modest/Timid
    EVs:252 Sp. attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP/Sp. def
    Calm Mind
    Psychic
    Thunderpunch
    Recover

    My Zam is so much different because I accually like Recover! :D
     
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    Steelix - can't see the benefit of HP Bug, but I can't see where it could hurt either. Maybe consider Explosion somewhere on Steelix.

    Umbreon - needs Rest, otherwise you're just asking to be Toxiced. Charm works too for trapping physical types - lower their attack,then Baton Pass and they can't hurt you

    Weezing - looks fine, although I'd rather have Flamethrower over Thunderbolt

    Alakazam - it works, versatile attacking moveset. To Mullet: Timid is the other choice for Zam's nature.

    Jolteon - rather have HP Ice over HP Grass, says hi to Dragons. Wish works over Agility, and Sub over Baton Pass. (or you could keep Baton Pass for Substitutes)
     
    HP bug on steelix...well I needed a counter for psychics and darks. I was actually going to change f.thrower on weezing, just then it does nothing to flash fires. Agility+baton pass Jolteon rocks on this team, and HP grass is there because otherwise I have no other grass moves. I like the phazing steelix. Umbreon and rest though...I just like wish!
     
    I knew it, I ment Timid. I going to go fix that.

    Explosion is a must on Steelix, it's for a tight spot, if your about to die and you can withstand two more attacks then choose to do Explosion and blow them up!     :D
     
    Yeh, but...this phazing one should be fine. I'll try it on NB ASAP.
     
    Manser said:
    Here's my team:

    Steelix@leftovers/leichi berry
    Adamant
    252 attack, 136 special defence, 100 HP, 22 defence
    Earthquake
    Roar
    HP bug
    rock slide

    My physical wall/sweeper. Takes care of many pokemon.

    steelix is all about its defense... (having sp def evs is pointless) its not a defensive blissey... more def evs plz... explosion/de/toxic > hp bug

    Umbreon@leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, rest so the defences are equal...
    mean look
    baton pass
    wish
    taunt/confuse ray/ toxic/curse

    Curse maybe for passing to Steelix...

    cursebreon is pretty awsome... rest/moonlight are options > wish... EVs: 252 HP / 68 Def / 190 SDef w/ bold/impish nature makes the defs different by 1 point

    Weezing@leftovers
    Bold
    252 defence, 96 special defence, 120 HP, 42 special attack
    Will-o-wisp
    Haze
    Pain split
    T.bolt

    Tank, hazer, blisskarm counter.

    weezing smells

    Alakazam@lum berry
    Modest
    252 special attack, 252 speed, 6 HP
    Psychic
    Thunderpunch
    Firepunch
    Ice punch

    Special sweeper. I prefer modest.

    starmie says I OUTRUN YOU.. timid plz but meh...

    Jolteon@petaya berry
    Timid
    252 speed, 180 special attack, 72 special defence, 6 HP
    T.bolt
    HP grass
    agility
    baton pass

    Works with Alakazam

    earthquake > zam & jolt so y pass to it? your just going to get koed =\

    Vaporeon@Leftovers
    Modest
    252 HP, 152 special attack, 106 special defence
    Wish
    Acid armor
    Surf
    Ice beam

    That's it. Any comments would be appreciated.

    toxic/haze/protect/roar > acid armor... noones going to be stupid enough to attack vaporeon physically
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    the only basic sweeper is kazam and kazam will not stay long so id say to put another back up sweeper in there... otherwise, this team is a tank stall team
     
    K, thanks.

    Should I replace Steelix with CB Metagross? Timid Alakazam, Vaporeon with toxic.
     
    Klducks, Zam > Starmie, always. So its faster, big deal, its gonna get KOed anyways, and Starmie is a UU Pokemon so bleh. Modest always.

    Steelix needs only about 300 HP and the rest can be thrown into Atk, Def or all Def. Steelix can't attack to beans, it only has attacks to do a bit of damage.

    Umbreon shouldn't Cures at all on this team. You pass to Steelix and someone throws a Water type in your way, Steelix is not gonna survive at all, so you just wasted 7 turns (which would be extremely hard to pull off) of pointless stalling just to end up fainting. Also Umbreon can't gain much from Taunt unless your gonna put Spd Ev's on it.

    I say just ditch the Umbreon for something else or put a big old Snorlax on your team, work on your Ev's and you should be all set to win some matchs =).
     
    My EVs are generally so that the pokemon have a certain stat, like Steelix with 301 HP and 200 special defence, same with Weezing. But thanks for the advice.
     
    Spike Razzor said:
    Klducks, Zam > Starmie, always. So its faster, big deal, its gonna get KOed anyways, and Starmie is a UU Pokemon so bleh. Modest always.
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    starmie will still do a # to kazam which might cost it =(

    Spike Razzor said:
    Umbreon shouldn't Cures at all on this team.
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    i have to agree...in fact this team looks like a whole bunch of random pokes were thrown in this team =( 3 tanks, and 2 passers =\
     
    Manser said:
    My EVs are generally so that the pokemon have a certain stat, like Steelix with 301 HP and 200 special defence, same with Weezing. But thanks for the advice.
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    I like rounded numbers too, but seriously, Steelix with Sp.Def? IMO, thats about as smart as giving Slowbro Spd Ev's O.o...

    To KL: I don't really see that many Starmies, unless someone has a UU or Water team. I wouldn't really think of it as a big threat, afterall, you have 5 other Pokemon that can jump it =).
     
    Not really, just what works!

    Ok, update:

    Steelix-Evs changed a bit+explosion

    Alakazam-Same

    Vaporeon-Toxic over acid armor

    Jolteon-Sub and thunder wave over baton pass and agility

    Weezing and Umbreon-Do I ditch them both?
     
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