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3rd Gen Need help in training!!

Gold95

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    I need help in training, where can I train for elite four????? here's my team if there's any problem in it please help (In Pokéemon LeafGreen)

    Blastoise LV.47 @ Leftovers
    Surf
    Hydro Cannon
    Bite
    Water Gun

    Raichu LV.45
    Slam
    ThunderBolt
    Flash
    Quick Attack

    Pidgeot LV.45
    Fly
    Wing Attack
    Gust
    Quick Attack

    Graveler LV.46
    Strength
    Rock Tomb
    Magnitude
    Earthquake

    Persian LV.46
    Cut
    Pay Day
    Bite
    Faint Attack

    pLeAsE hElP!!!!
     
    Well, your first problem is giving your Pokemon more than one attacking move of the same Type. Take Blastoise for example. When do you ever plan to use Water Gun, when you have two superior moves in Surf and Hydro Cannon? All you have done is limit your Pokemon from being more effective. Saddling your Pokemon with worthless HM moves does the same thing. I would use a team of four Pokemon and then have two Pokemon as HM slaves. Your Pokemon choices are also curious, but everyone has their own tastes.

    To be honest, to defeat the "elite" four, your Pokemon levels are just fine. You just need to diversify your movesets and make one Pokemon change. Here is what I would suggest (fixes in bold):

    master95 said:
    I need help in training, where can I train for elite four????? here's my team if there's any problem in it please help (In Pokéemon LeafGreen)

    Blastoise LV.47 @ Leftovers
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Earthquake/Protect
    Rest

    Blastoise is good at taking physical hits, and doesn't have any physical weaknesses either, so you can use that to your advantage. Ice Beam is great at taking down Grass-types and Earthquake for Electric-types. This moveset makes Blastoise a threat to a lot of different types.

    Raichu LV.45
    Focus Punch
    ThunderBolt
    Substitute
    Thunder Wave

    This change makes your Raichu another big threat. Between putting up a Sub and its great speed, it can take down a lot of things. T-Wave is useful to limit attacks against you and Focus Punch hits VERY hard. This set allows Raichu to rip through teams.

    KadabraLV.45
    Psychic
    Calm Mind
    Shock Wave/Light Screen
    Recover

    Since you have Graveler instead of Golem, I will assume you won't be able to get Alakazam either. No matter. Kadabra will do just fine. It's speed and STAB Psychic (especially if boosted by a CM) can deal good damage to types it usually can only do standard damage to. Recover isn't too useful as Kadabra's defenses aren't that great, but it can help in a pinch.

    Graveler LV.46
    Explosion
    Rock Slide
    Double-Edge/Toxic
    Earthquake

    Graveler is a solid physical attacker. Between Earthquake and Rock Slide, it has two strong STAB attacks. Double-Edge does great damage, but only if it has Rock Head to avoid the 1/3 recoil damage. If it isn't Rock Head, Toxic always comes in handy. Explosion is used to take down especially difficult Pokemon.
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    Persian and Goldeen make useful HM slaves too.

    For the "elite 4", these Pokemon will handle them with ease:

    Lorelei - Raichu destorys this entire team
    Bruno - Blastoise takes down both Onix, and Kadabra does the rest
    Agatha - Kadabra dominates with 5 OHKO
    Lance - Raichu takes out Gyarados and then Blastoise does the rest
    Gary - Raichu can actually win out here usually, but look for help from Kadabra on Venusaur.

    As you can see, you only used 3 Pokemon. Good luck.
     
    thanks very much!!!!! but, I don't think Blastoise needs rest because my Blastoise has verY very much defense....., I have a Kadabra at LV.20...... BUT STILL thanks very much!!!!!

    by the way if I use Blizzard instead of Ice Beam??
     
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    master95 said:
    thanks very much!!!!! but, I don't think Blastoise needs rest because my Blastoise has verY very much defense....., I have a Kadabra at LV.20...... BUT STILL thanks very much!!!!!

    by the way if I use Blizzard instead of Ice Beam??
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    Blizzard instead of Ice Beam = fail. It only has five PP, and you'll waste almost all of them missing. Don't even try to replace Ice Beam with Blizzard.

    Even if your Blastoise has high defense, you should still give it Rest. It's a good move, and you can use a Pokéflute to wake it up. It's free healing, as opposed to buying Hyper Potions or Full Restores.
     
    Use your vs. seeker to fight the trainers that are willing to battle again and I suggest train your pokemon at the cinnabar mansion, seafoam islands, islands 1,2,3 and victory road. ;D
     
    A good place to train would most likely be the Victory Road. There is some astouding trainers to train with along with high level Pokemon.

    Good luck.
     
    Hey guys! I've improved my Team :-
    UPDATE IN BOLD

    Blastoise LV.48
    Surf
    Earthquake
    Hydro Cannon
    Ice Beam

    Kadabra LV.45
    Psybeam
    Calm Mind
    Psychic
    Recover

    Graveler LV.47
    Rock Slide
    Toxic
    Explosion
    Earthquake

    that's all now in Victory Road......

    SORRY forgot to write this:-
    Raichu LV.47
    Focus Punch
    Thunder Wave
    ThunderBolt
    Slam
     
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    master95 said:
    Hey guys! I've improved my Team :-
    UPDATE IN BOLD

    Blastoise LV.48
    Surf
    Earthquake
    Hydro Cannon
    Ice Beam
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    You should still have Rest on that Blastoise. Free healing, remember? Besides, you don't need two moves of the same type on Blastoise.
     
    As I said before, and as Vrai repeated above, giving a Pokemon two attacking moves of the same type is pointless. Hydro Cannon is a HORRIBLE move to begin with. Not only is a two-turn move, but it also is only 5 PP, not to mention the fact that it is only 90% effective. Now look at it another way. While it is 150 Attack Power, Surf is 95 AP. What that means is that if you consider the second turn where you cannot do anything, that makes Hydro Cannon really a pathetic 75 AP move. The end result is that you can do more damage attacking twice with Surf than you can in those same turn only being able to attack once with Hydro Cannon. I also want to echo Vria's other comment about Rest. You can NEVER discount free healing. Rest is perfect for Blastoise and should replace Hydro Cannon.

    As with Kadabra, Psybeam is a worthless move, as it is inferior in every way to Psychic. I will have to assume the fact that you haven't added Shock Wave means that you have probably used it on something already. Unfortunate. Well, you can always teach it Reflect.

    Your Graveler looks great and your Raichu is almost there. Don't forget that the Move Tutor that teaches Substitute is found in Fuchsia City, just northwest (if I remember correctly) of the Pokemon Center.

    Once your movesets are complete you should be able to go ahead and take on the "elite" 4 and win pretty handily. Good luck to you.

    BTW - Could you also provide the natures of your Pokemon. That might also shed some light on a few things.
     
    OK as you said shanecdavis here are my pokémon's natures:-
    Blastoise - Impish
    Raichu - Quiet
    Kadabra - Naughty
    Graveler - Lax
    that's all

    hey there!!! thanks for giving me ideas to defeat elite four! I won!! and now I'm the Hall Of The Famer!!!!!!! these are the Pokémons:-
    Blastoise LV.51
    Raichu LV.50
    Pidgeot LV.46
    Graveler LV.47
    THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!!!!!
    MOSTLY SHANECDAVIS
     
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