Need some help

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    Yeah, RMT time again. I would like suggestions and opinions on this team. I went 10-0 in OU so far, and tried to stay from OU as far as possible, but I used Porygon-Z/Donphan because I love them. I would like some help in my Special Wall/Physical Sweeper help.

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    1. Porygon-Z@Focus Sash
    Nature: Timid
    EV: 252 Speed/252 Sp Attack
    Ability: Download
    1. Tri-Attack
    2. Thunderbolt
    3. Agility
    4. Ice Beam

    Standard AgiliSash Porygon-Z and my lead. Agility up, then sweep away. Nothing resists all the attacks. Timid to ensure I outspeed as much as possible.

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    2. Octillery@Life Orb
    Nature: Sassy
    EV: 200 Sp Attack/52 Attack/252 HP
    1. Waterfall
    2. Ice Beam
    3. Psychic
    4. Flamethrower

    Mixed Octillery. Since I have no BPer, I saw this set on some other forum to counter SkarmBliss, and still do some damage to others. Works very good.

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    3. Sceptile@Life Orb
    Nature: Jolly
    EV: 252 Attack/Speed
    1. Leaf Blade
    2. Earhquake
    3. Thunderpunch
    4. Dragon Claw

    It's a shame all of Sceptile's good attacks became Physical, and it's Attack power is bad compared to Special Attack power. But, I've OHKO'd Gyaradoses (most of which I had to switch it out then back in again, but others I still OHKO'd even when Initmidated).

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    4. Slowking@Leftovers
    Nature: Calm
    EV: 252 HP/252 Sp Def
    1. Calm Mind
    2. Slack Off
    3. Surf
    4. Ice Beam

    Special Wall. Calm Mind up and Slack Off to heal.

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    5. Donphan@Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    EV: 252 HP/252 Def
    1. Rapid Spin
    2. Stealth Rock
    3. Earthquake
    4. Ice Shard

    Rapid SPinner/Physical Wall. Stealth Rock to stop Sashers, and then Earthquake for STAB. Ice Shard for anything that resists Earthquake.


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    6. Toxicroak@Choice Scarf
    Nature: Jolly
    EV: 252 Speed/252 Attack
    1. Cross Chop
    2. Earthquake
    3. Pursuit
    4. Stone Edge

    This is just a simple Choice Scarf sweeper. Reaches 443 Speed. Pursuit over Sucker Punch, since it's Scarfed. Cross Chop=STAB and Stone Edge hits Flying types.

    Now, I need some help. I plan on using Zangoose and Mantine. Zangoose will replace Toxicroak and Mantine will replace Slowking.

    Zangoose@Choice Scarf
    Nature: Jolly
    EV: 252 Attack/Speed
    1. Return
    2. Close Combat
    3. Ice Punch
    4. Pursuit

    Night Slash + Ice Punc is illegal.



    So:

    1. Toxicroak/Zangoose
    2. Sceptile
    3. Donphan
    4. Octillery
    5. Porygon-Z
    6. Mantine/Slowking

    Which of the two in Bold should I use? And no, I will not put an OU in.
     
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    I'd like to say that there are 4 Pokemon that Outclass Toxicroak completely
     
    Even though I love Toxicroak, Zangoose does a much better job. I'd say Zangoose due to its superior stats/move pool.
     
    You're team isn't UU at all. If you have (even if just) 1 OU pokémon, you have a OU team. If you have a team of 5 NUs and a Wobbuffet, you have an Uber team. So, why don't you want more OU pokémon on your team?
     
    So, why don't you want more OU pokémon on your team?

    Because I have enough as it is and I like to use few OUs + BL and below. And I never said it was pure BL and below. So I guess Zangoose and Mantine it is then.
     
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    Your Porygon-Z can be beaten by Yanmega easily if it leads, just so you know. :)

    ~M51
     
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