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Novelty > Standard Lol

ultranerd57

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  • 491
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    I've gone crazy and decided to make a novelty team so no standards please.

    Special sweeper/ Bliss counter
    Azelf @ Wise glasses
    EVs: 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
    Hasty/ Modest
    -Taunt
    -Nasty plot
    -Psychic
    -Hidden Power Fighting
    Bliss switch ins beware Mwahaha.


    Special sweeper
    Electrivire@ Life orb/ Expert belt
    EVs:252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
    Modest
    -Thunderbolt
    -Flamethrower
    -Hidden power Ice/ Grass
    -Focus blast
    Special sweeping Vire FTW


    Mixed wall
    Glalie@ leftovers
    EVs: 252hp/ 200spdef/ 56def
    Relaxed
    -Spikes
    -Attract
    -Rest
    -Ice beam
    Wow strait 80s across the board. Actually not sure if this is novelty or not I'd have to check.


    Physical wall
    Kabutops@ leftovers/ Damp stone
    EVs: 252hp/ 252spdef/ 6def
    Trait: Swift swim
    Impish
    -Rapid spin
    -Knock off
    -Rain dance
    -Stone edge
    Rapid spinner and Knock off. Pity it has such low hp.


    Physical sweeper
    Huntail @ Choice scarf
    EVs: 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
    Trait: Swift swim
    Naive
    -Ice fang
    -Waterfall
    -Crunch
    -Rain dance/ Snatch
    Open for suggestions on last move.



    Physical wall/ Support

    Wigglytuff@ leftovers
    EVs: 252hp/ 252def/ 6spdef
    Relaxed
    -Wish
    -Hyper Voice
    -Thunder wave
    -Charge beam


    Yup.
     

    Anti

    return of the king
  • 10,818
    Posts
    16
    Years
    I've gone crazy and decided to make a novelty team so no standards please.

    Okay, this better be worth our time.

    Special sweeper/ Bliss counter
    Azelf @ Wise glasses
    EVs: 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
    Hasty/ Modest
    -Taunt
    -Nasty plot
    -Psychic
    -Hidden Power Fighting
    Bliss switch ins beware Mwahaha.

    I guess.

    Special sweeper
    Electrivire@ Choice Specs
    EVs:252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
    Modest
    -Thunderbolt
    -Flamethrower
    -Hidden power Ice/ Grass
    -Focus blast
    Special sweeping Vire FTW

    You need ALL the power you can get.

    Mixed wall
    Glalie@ leftovers
    EVs: 252hp/ 200spdef/ 56def
    Relaxed
    -Spikes
    -Shadow Ball
    -Rest
    -Ice beam
    Wow strait 80s across the board. Actually not sure if this is novelty or not I'd have to check.

    Glalie? A mixed Wall? lol. It won't be walling a Skarmory dude :( If anything, it's just a spiker that scares dragons away. I'd really check smogon or somewhere for a set, that doesn't really look that great to be honest. Attract is just no.

    Physical wall
    Kabutops@ leftovers/ Damp stone
    EVs: 252hp/ 252spdef/ 6def
    Trait: Swift swim
    Impish
    -Rapid spin
    -Knock off
    -Waterfall
    -Stone edge
    Rapid spinner and Knock off. Pity it has such low hp.

    Also a pity this is OHKOed by a lot of EQs, so much for physical wall, eh? And what in the world is rain dance doing there? O_o

    Physical sweeper
    Huntail @ Choice scarf
    EVs: 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
    Trait: Swift swim
    Naive
    -Ice fang
    -Waterfall
    -Crunch
    -Rain dance/ Snatch
    Open for suggestions on last move.

    Scarf Rain dance FTW! Um, no. Just use Return or Double-Edge as a filler. Good luck sweeping with 50 base speed.

    Physical wall/ Support
    Wigglytuff@ leftovers
    EVs: 252hp/ 252def/ 6spdef
    Relaxed
    -Wish
    -Hyper Voice
    -Thunder wave
    -Charge beam

    I can think of so many physical attackers that threaten a OHKO on this thing it isn't even funny...the support this set offers is nice, but wall in OU play it cannot.

    Yup.

    At first it was fine, but it went downhill. Heracross can OHKO every single pokemon on this team that dares switch into it. Scarf variants will make Azelf a lost thought and ouch...

    Machamp isn't much nicer to this team, as all of those "walls" of yours are OHKOed by a cross chop from the demon. And if it happens to switch into thunder wave support, you might as well leave the battle.

    Specsmence also torches this team, and the CB variant is even meaner. Any life orb sweeper with a fighting move and ground move can take all but Azelf, which can be promptly taken care of.

    Aero and fast banders will be able to outspeed and kill azelf along with the rest of your team.

    On the special end of the spectrum, Alakazam just MURDERS this team. Gengar isn't much better, especially focus sash or scarf variants that beat up on Azelf. Poygon Z can OHKO anything you have and really not be stopped. Any psychic pokemon with decent sweeping baility will destroy this team as well, as Azelf can't hit them hard at all.

    Watch as Cresselia and Mesprit just gobble up your attempts to sweep as they power up and then destroy your team.

    And choice scarfer that can do any kind of damage will not be stopped and it will go on a rampage destroying your entire team.

    So in short, nothing you have really walls anything, and your sweepers lack power. Even for a novelty team it is just poor really.

    If you want to fix all of these weaks, you're going to have to replace all of those "walls" with things that can actually take hits. I don't care if you give them novelty movesets or not, you still need pokemon that can take hits.
     

    Samson

    no, i don't know milk drink
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    Posts
    17
    Years
    uh i'm really not feeling the electivire. it's not going to be doing much damage. at least give him focus punch/cross chop/earthquake for the last moveslot. a special fighting move is not going to be in your benefit when you already have flamethrower.

    i do use glalie as a special tank as it only fears togekiss, lucario and fire attacks, but physical is pushing it. it's not going to be able to take any physical rock type or fighting type move well at all. also, it works a lot better with ice body + hail + protect. it's outstalled a few pokes and is quite annoying. it can take nuetral physical hits well, but those are rare occurrences when you're running a glalie.

    eh... that kabutops is pathetic. it's NOT A WALL. it's barely a tank. seriously, just let the guy be a sweeper.

    choice scarf? ._. it won't outrun anything worth the while.

    i'm not even going to comment on the wigglytuff.

    novelty is not a bad thing, but when you're looking for something new, at least try something good ._.
     

    Anti

    return of the king
  • 10,818
    Posts
    16
    Years
    Hm well it was worth a shot I'll do reasearch on my team and change it.

    I don't think you understand. This isn't like a minor thing, you need to blow this thing up and start over. I LOVE novelty sets, but all novelty teams really aren't a good idea. One novelty on a team is fine and dandy, but 6 (especially when most are terrible sets) is overkill and unnecessary.

    Replace Kabutops, Huntail, Wigglytuff, and Glalie, they all do nothing for this team except maybe die :/
     

    Iceman3k

    Kickin' it Tribal GO Style
  • 966
    Posts
    17
    Years
    I've gone crazy and decided to make a novelty team so no standards please.

    Special sweeper/ Bliss counter
    Azelf @ Life Orb / Focus Sash
    EVs: 252spd/ 252spatk/ 6hp
    Timid
    -Taunt
    -Nasty plot
    -Psychic
    -Hidden Power Fighting
    Bliss switch ins beware Mwahaha.
    I wouldn't call this Novelty anything. lol.


    Special sweeper
    Electrivire@ Life orb/ Expert belt
    EVs:252spd/ 216spatk/ 40 Atk
    Mild
    -Thunderbolt
    -Flamethrower
    -Hidden power Ice/ Grass
    -Cross Chop
    Special sweeping Vire FTW
    Cool people at least run Cross Chop.

    Mixed wall
    Glalie@ leftovers
    EVs: 252hp/ 200spdef/ 56def
    Relaxed
    -Spikes
    -Attract
    -Rest
    -Ice beam
    Wow strait 80s across the board. Actually not sure if this is novelty or not I'd have to check.
    Knowing that Attract is the least useful move on there, I'd call it novelty :x

    Physical wall
    Kabutops@ leftovers/ Damp stone
    EVs: 252hp/ 252spdef/ 6def
    Trait: Swift swim
    Impish
    -Rapid spin
    -Knock off
    -Rain dance
    -Stone edge
    Rapid spinner and Knock off. Pity it has such low hp.
    Pity it's weak against Fighting and Ground, the most common Physical Attacks in the game.

    Physical sweeper
    Huntail @ Life Orb / Damp Rock
    EVs: 252spd/ 252atk/ 6hp
    Trait: Swift swim
    Adamant
    -Ice fang
    -Waterfall
    -Crunch
    -Rain dance
    Open for suggestions on last move.
    Uh, Rain Dance anyone?


    Physical wall/ Support

    Wigglytuff@ leftovers
    EVs: 252hp/ 252def/ 6spdef
    Relaxed
    -Wish
    -Hyper Voice
    -Thunder wave
    -Charge Beam
    Needs Protect somewhere.

    Yup.
    Any random Fighting type will cripple this team to death.
     
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