3rd Gen Now Hear This

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    You can beat Sapphire WITHOUT the cut HM.

    I beat it ten minutes ago...I NEVER found the Cut HM.

    Heh heh heh...you don't need it.
     
    yah, you don't need it for any of the games, it just helps, ok, so mabey you do need it for Y/R/B/FR/LG but I think that's all X3
     
    You don't need it in RS, but you do in FRLG, otherwise you couldn't go from Cerulean to Rock Tunnel.
     
    You don't need it for RSE, but you do need it for all the other games. I think the developers must have left out the part where you need to use Cut to get to a tunnel/Gym/whatever. XD
     
    You actually can beat FR/LG without owning the HM but you'll have to trade for a pokemon with the learned attack.
     
    In Red, I never got flash and made it through Rock Tunnel. It was hard.
     
    thats amazing. I never knew you didn't need Cut. I should try it sometime.
     
    Well, you only need Cut to get the items, so chances are that the majority of people will haev gotten through the game without the "essential" HM Cut. When I got thorugh I thought it'd be a bit weird since in the other games, Cut was essential. Game Freak'll probably put something in the next game. ^_^
     
    I think many people class completing the game as just Elite Four and possibly Rayquaza. To completely complete the game you will need Cut to get all the secret items around Hoenn, and in the Trick House.
     
    technicly finishing the game would mean that you complete 100% which means that you have to beat the elite 4 fill ur pokedex ect. remember completion is 100%
     
    Shinin said:
    In Red, I never got flash and made it through Rock Tunnel. It was hard.
    I think I did that in red. I didn't figure out you could do that XD
     
    i was gunna say wahat about the trick house but that dont class as completeion to some people. This is quite a random thread. ill try without flash.....Easy peasy
     
    In Red I used to NEVER get Flash, as I always just done it in the dark.

    You can go through RSE without Flash to.

    <_<

    >_>

    I know it was obvious.
     
    But don't you need it for other things, like sidequests? and it's no fun missing out on all the items and berries...
    either way, cut is EVIL >:(
     
    Cut is maybe the worst HM in all games due to accuracy of 95% and power of only 50 making it the weakest HM.
     
    You don't really need cut to beat it..nor flash I think..you can just..look around even though it'll be a pain in the arse. ^^;
     
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