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    Slaking (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Truant
    EVs: 196 HP / 108 Atk / 196 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Aerial Ace
    - Focus Punch
    - Hyper Beam
    - Shadow Ball

    Quagsire (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 136 Atk / 120 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Counter
    - Earthquake
    - Haze
    - Sludge Bomb

    Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SAtk
    Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
    - Focus Punch
    - Rock Slide
    - Substitute
    - Thunderbolt

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 116 HP / 196 Def / 4 Spd / 36 SAtk / 156 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Heal Bell
    - Leech Seed
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Magneton @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Rest
    - Thunder Wave
    - Thunderbolt

    Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Night Shade
    - Pain Split
    - Psych Up
    - Will-O-Wisp


    CB BeamKing is very hot. Quaggy is just a beast to kill, and things like Dus and BOAH and Mag are pretty much standard for this team.

    Fix obv.
     
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    Chewie said:
    Slaking (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Truant
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Focus Punch
    - Return
    - Shadow Ball

    Huh? Max Speed and Attack. Hyper Beam Slaking fails on the recharge. Earthquake is better than Aerial Ace as a STABed Return does more damage than a supereffective Aerial Ace.

    Quagsire (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 136 Atk / 120 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Counter
    - Earthquake
    - Haze
    - Sludge Bomb

    Quagsire =O
    While Water Absorb is cool, people use Swampert because its just so much better. If Water attacks bother you, its because you have no special wall so think about that.


    Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SAtk
    Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
    - Focus Punch
    - Rock Slide
    - Substitute
    - Thunderbolt

    Fake Boah? It could surprise. Still, the real Boah works better. This one can't handle Claydol.


    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 116 HP / 196 Def / 4 Spd / 36 SAtk / 156 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Heal Bell
    - Leech Seed
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Preferably more speed instead of SDef. I like my Psychic Celebis to outspeed Heracross in case they need to.

    Magneton @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Fire]
    - Substitute/Metal Sound

    - Thunder Wave
    - Thunderbolt

    lol, whats with the HP and Defense? It's still gonna die to one Earthquake regardless. Max out Sp.Atk and split the rest between HP and Speed. Also, Rest fails as Magneton isn't durable enough to use it. HP Fire, it's supereffective against Grass AND OKOs Forretress.


    Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SDef
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Night Shade
    - Pain Split
    - Focus Punch
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Lol, Timid? It's not like Dusclops is gonna outspeed anything important. Don't max out SDef, it needs Def EVs too. Psych Up is pretty useless, it won't have much use for Curse, Dragon Dance, Swords Dance, Calm Mind, etc. because its only attack is Night Shade. Give it a little more Attack for Focus Punch please.

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    Chewie said:
    Slaking (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Truant
    EVs: 6 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Focus Punch
    - Double-Edge
    - Shadow Ball

    Hyper Beam means you can't switch out and then Fighting types go BYEBYE Slaking so you should use Double-Edge mmmk. HP [Flying] is 10 points stronger than Aerial Ace but you should be using Earthquake


    Quagsire (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 136 Atk / 120 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Counter
    - Earthquake
    - Haze
    - Sludge Bomb

    OK... Eww Quagsire sucks when you can use Swampert

    Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    EVs: 240 HP / 16 Atk / 136 Def / 100 SAtk / 16 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Beam
    - Protect/Hidden Power [Bug]
    - Toxic/Hydro Pump


    Tyranitar (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 SAtk
    Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
    - Focus Punch
    - Rock Slide/Crunch/Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Substitute
    - Thunderbolt

    Just use Boah... Take the EVs out of Defence and Put some in Spd I think and some In Sp.Atk

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 240 HP / 148 Def / 8 Spd / 56 SAtk / 56 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Heal Bell
    - Leech Seed
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    OK so if a pokemon can reach 400 EVs then give it 401 so that it can survive an extra seismic toss and what not ok... Plus HP before the defences

    Magneton @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 188 HP / 68 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)

    - Hidden Power [Fire/Grass]
    - Substitute
    - Thunder Wave
    - Thunderbolt

    Fire for Forretress and Grass for Swampert... Rest could work since u got bi but it's not gna live through attacks... I hate your EVs

    Dusclops (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 48 Def / 44 Spd / 108 SDef
    Careful (+SpDef, -SAtk)

    - Focus Punch
    - Pain Split
    - Shadow Ball/Seismic Toss/Night SHade
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Needs Sp.Def as ur team lacks

    CB BeamKing is very hot. Quaggy is just a beast to kill, and things like Dus and BOAH and Mag are pretty much standard for this team.

    Fix obv.

    Well it wasnt to bad but you should read the EV guide stickied in this forum as you need help in that catagory
     
    everything on this team is 2hko'd by starmie except quagsire, which isn't exactly threatening

    edit: ok slaking isn't 2hko'd, but it isn't exactly a reliable switch into starmie
     
    Double-Edge if you want to OHKO Milotic.

    Return isn't too much worse though. I've learned from experience that the recoil isn't always worth it.

    I'm guessing Frost suggested HP Bug for Celebi.

    Put the Defense EVs on BOAH into Attack.
     
    My old monoground team used Quagsire with great success.

    Quagsire@Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EV: 56 HP/252 Att/112 Def/90 SpDef
    Nature: Adamant
    Yawn
    Focus Punch
    HP Ghost
    Earthquake

    Yawn messes up CMCune and forces switches, HP Ghost for Gengar. Best used with Spikes, to be honest. Still kinda fun though.
     
    Besides the EV spread being wrong, Focus Punch and Earthquake being pretty much useless together, the lack of Curse not making it hurt much and Yawnpunch being pretty much useless, yes I agree, it's a good set.

    Give Quag Surf to have a shot at hurting Skarm.
     
    Heh, so in essence it's not a great set. Meh, I had fun when I used him though.

    Probably better to shift to Brave and go Surf > EQ. I couldn't remember the EVs I used offhand, although I did go a bit defensive with them.
     
    Why would you want it to lose its best STAB?
     
    Quagsire is fine in UU but it doesn't survive well in OU.
     
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