Offensive hates me ._.' [OU]

[Barney.]

My attempt at an OU offensive team.

Work needed.

At a glance.

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In more depth.

Azelf @ Focus Sash
Naive
Levitate
252SpA/252Spe/6Atk

-Stealth Rock-
-Psychic-
-Fire Blast-
-Explosion-

Probably my favourite lead to date..It simply sets up rocks whilst taking out a threat..I've had a couple of Blissey witch ins before..Explosion lols at them...I've had quite a few Scizor switch ins...Fire Blast lols at them...It also counters most of the common leads.

STAB Psychic can take care of alot of things that don't resist also.

Flygon @ Choice Scarf
Adamant
Levitate
252Atk/252Spe/6HP

-Outrage-
-Earthquake-
-U-Turn-
-Thunderpunch-

I've always loved Flygon..But I've never used it in a competitive team..So, why not now?
it's been a great revenge killer and scouter so far...It has probably the best two STAB moves to have in Earthquake and Outrage..thunderpunch is sort of filler, but it has come in useful..Will happily change to a different move if it seems fit.

Outrage can also sweep late game.

Tyranitar @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Jolly
Sand Stream
252Atk/252Spe/6HP

-Dragon Dance-
-Stone Edge-
-Crunch-
-Aqua Tail / Fire Punch-

Physical sweeping..It does it really well.

After one dragon dance it becomes an absolute beast..Hitting everything for at least nuetral...And it still as giant attack power even without a DD.

Currently using Leftovers for more staying power.

Currently using Aqua Tail..But it hasn't really been very useful..May change to fire punch for steels.

Salamence @ Life Orb
Rash
Intimidate
252SpA/80Atk/178Spe

-Draco Meteor-
-Fire Blast-
-Brick Break-
-Roost-

Classic MixMence.

IMO it's the best mixed sweeper out there.

Nothing much else too say excpet Classic >>>>> New.

Magnezone @ Life Orb
Hasty
Magnet Pull
252SpA/42Atk/216Spe

-Thunderbolt-
-HP Ice-
-Magnet Rise-
-Explosion-

Sure, you can kill stuff...just explode when you're done.

That's basically the jist of this set..It serves as a great steel killer, but can also hit many things hard if the don't resist thunderbolt.

Not really been working..Getting countered too easily..Not really fitting on this team...Will happily replace.

Rotom-c @ Choice Specs
Timid
Levitate
252SpAtk/188Spe/70HP

-Thunderbolt-
-Shadow Ball-
-Leaf Storm-
-Trick-

I've never used a Rotom Forme before..so I decided to try it..But I needed something to effectively counter swampert..So, in came Rotom-c.

I'm really enjoying it at the moment, It packs some great power, and has two great STAB moves..And of course Leaf Storm..which is always nice.



Thoughts.

Considering Scarf Jirachi over Flygon.
I think I really need more Special attacking power..Please suggest a good Special Sweeper.
Considering Lead zong over Zelf.
Need a DDmence counter.



Changes.


Ttar from Adamant to Jolly.
Changed Magnezone's EVs and HP, Switched Magnet rise for Flash Cannon
Roost > Crunch on Mence.
Changed Rotom's nature and EVs


This team probably needs alot of help.

Give me it please.
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[Dark Azelf]

Just a few things.

Jolly >> Adamant on DD Tar. Adamant is too slow to do anything (332 speed after a DD is lol) whilst Jolly actually lets you pose a threat and you can outspeed base 115's like Starmie, Azelf and Riakou after a DD.

Next Magnezone WANTS to be able to outspeed Adamant Scizor : - 42 Att / 252 sp.att / 216 speed @ Hasty please. In addition do you REALLY need HP Fire, because a Life Orb Thunderbolt does ~80% to Max hp Scizor anyway, so yeah. Another hiddn power might be of more benefit. I also like Flash Cannon >> Magnet Rise on my all out Magnezone too, snags Tyranitar and Mamoswine etc switch ins hard and eases up on predictions with bulky ground types, just something to consider.

Magnezone + DD Tar is great as you can just remove Scizor (and its Bullet Punch) with Zone and thus sweep easier with DD Tar so that should be the central focus of your team.

Roost >> Crunch on Mence. You need it, even more so on this team as you will be taking SR + LO + SS Damage. This helps check Lucario.

Because of aformentioned SR + LO + SS on mence, that might not be the best thing to ensure you dont lose to Lucario. For this reason alone id switch to Timid on Rotom for insurance 70 hp / 252 speed / 188 speed too (beats adamant lucario), this allows for a bit more bulk too.

Lastly the only MAJOR weakness, being the one you really cant deal with, is that DD Salamence really hurts you. Maybe Azelf could be replaced for something like a Lead Bronzong to help with mence?

Bronzong@Leftovers
252 HP / 68 ATT / 108 DEF / 80 SP.DEF
Relaxed Nature
Trait : levitate
- Stelth Rock
- Explosion
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake

This also covers your SD Weavile weak LOL


Just some things to consider.

 

[Anti]

Forget countering Lucario, Crunch sucks because it doesnt get the kills it's supposed to. For example, on Cresselia:

326 Atk vs 372 Def & 444 HP (80 Base Power): 132 - 156 (29.73% - 35.14%)

^rofl, that sort of sucks. Actually, that really sucks. You aren't even guaranteed to 3HKO Cresselia. Amazing. Roost is ALWAYS better.

However, I disagree with lead Mamo. Talk about an unreliable way to deal with Salamence. @_@ You basically hope the opponent doesn't lay down SR or attack Mamoswine, or it will die switching in.

As for your team...wow, NO synergy at all. You have Explosion on Mag, but nothing to take advantage of a dead Blissey...Rotom doesn't really count. It's too slow and weak, to be frank. Speaking of slow, man, this team sure is slow. Faster sweepers basically run your whole team over, especially once Flygon goes down. Take Gengar for Example...it basically 6-0s your team unless you're willing to Outrage with Flygon. LO Starmie is basically the same way. Hell even NP Azelf just tears your entire team apart, you you basically have to sacrifice Flygon. Even SD Weavile just tears you apart...that's REALLY bad.

Being defensive inept isn't horrible if you have a good offensive core to make up for it, but you don't. NOTHING takes out DDTar's counters at all...and I don't mean that you don't counter DDTar's counters - I mean that you don't lure them in to actually kill them. If you send in Rotom-C on Swampert, it's just going to switch out. Basically I'm saying that nothing supports each other...it's like every man for himself out there, man. Nothing is working together. It's the kind of thing where you cover things on paper, but in practice it all falls apart.

To make this work, I would first choose a better revenge killer. Oh my gosh, Flygon locks itself into Outrage and has NO power. It's like a far inferior version of ScarfChomp. Replace for something adequate. A Scarfed Steel like Metagross, Jirachi, or Heatran works...just be sure they can deal with Gengar, Weavile, etc.

Next, DEFINITELY rework your offensive core. Magnezone is slow and easily walled. Replace. Salamence is fine, of course. DDTar has NO support, so unless you plan on getting it some, replace it. Rotom-C is Pursuit bait and easy to set up on, especially if it actually has to beat Swameprt with Leaf Storm and find DDMence or SDLuke coming in. Really, any of the Rotom formes can screw with Swameprt with Will-O-Wisp, which also messes us Scizor and Tyranitar. Still, if your offensive core is improved, Swampert should not be a problem.

In other words, this seriously needs reworked. Lots of weaknesses you just shouldn't have and not enough firepower to make up for it.

 

[Barney.]

Thank you for the sets and overall rate D_A, It helped alot.

And thank you also Anti..It was harsh, but I guess you're right..Thanks.

Some changes have been made...Also added a thoughts section for my considerations, needs etc.