Outrage

[Ichida]

I never said it was the best game in the world, and I admit it is a fifty dollar D/P accessory, but again, it's worth it to me and other serious trainers. If it isn't worth it to you, then either you're extremely frugal, or you're not too serious about Pokemon battling.

 

[Lxylia]

I never said it was the best game in the world, and I admit it is a fifty dollar D/P accessory, but again, it's worth it to me and other serious trainers. If it isn't worth it to you, then either you're extremely frugal, or you're not too serious about Pokemon battling.

-nods- I agree totally. I also never said it was best game in world, just best WII game to date. ^^;

 

[от_Ian]

I do not feel it is the best Wii game, as the game is not worth having without a nintendo ds with pokemon diamond/pearl.
Besides that, look at games like Wario Ware, TLOZ:TP, Resident Evil 4, and I can't think of any others right now. I think they are better games than PBR without diamond/pearl.

 

[Lxylia]

I do not feel it is the best Wii game, as the game is not worth having without a nintendo ds with pokemon diamond/pearl.
Besides that, look at games like Wario Ware, TLOZ:TP, Resident Evil 4, and I can't think of any others right now. I think they are better games than PBR without diamond/pearl.

This is your opinion not mine. No need to try to force it upon us. its completely useless effort.

 

[от_Ian]

The same could be said of you, saying it is the best Wii game. No need to force that opinion on me. I was just telling you that my opinion differs, and then I gave reasons as to why I believe that way. There's no reason for you to force your opinion on me.

 

[SBaby]

I rented it to check it out. The models weren't overly blocky. At least not to me.

Anyway, here's what I think. Take it as you will.

Graphically, it's about the best that's been seen in Pokemon. Some of the models DO use fewer polygons, but I don't believe it's truly detrimental to the overall look. The only thing I didn't like is the fact that they didn't deliver on destructible environments, like was originally planned. But that's minor anyway.

You can change the appearance and costumes of your Trainer to many different pre-made templates, clothes and hats. Unfortunately, you have to win enough battles to unlock most of them. The thing is, it isn't really all that necessary. It doesn't give you any sort of advantage, other than being able to tell yourself apart from an opponent. Really, it's just a useless easter egg that most people don't care about anyway. But it is there for those of you that like customization.

There isn't much gameplay in this either (at least that's different from the other games). You've got turn-based battles that can either be waged against another player (online or off-line, more on that later), or against one of several pre-made opponents. That's really it.

So with the above, it doesn't sound so bad, right? I mean, the graphics are good, you've got a bit of customization and you can play against others on the big screen. So where does this game go downhill? Well, brace yourselves.

First and foremost, you'll notice right off that there is no story mode, nor is there any rhyme or reason for you to be in the colosseums. You're just there. What this means is that the average gamer can complete the pre-made content of the game in but a few hours. That's it. If you don't have a friend or access to the on-line battle mode, you're SOL after that.

Second, the voices. While it's nice to hear English voice overs again, they could've done new voices for the game rather than using the same STATIC VOICES they used in the Stadium games. Also, why do the Pokemon all still have their cries from the games? And don't give me the lack of disc space excuse, because 4.5 GB of space can easily fit a couple hundred megs (at the VERY most) on it without slowing anything down. All they really had to do was cut and paste it from the Anime. I could do that.

Third, and this has been bugging me since the Colosseum games. Why is it, that after FIVE, let me repeat, FIVE games, you still can't see your Pokemon and their Pokemon at the same time when they're doing something? Seriously, you never do. If your Pokemon is using Tackle or Volt Tackle, it would make more sense to show them actually HITTING the Pokemon instead of the same stock footage.

Fourth, the lack of being able to use Legendary Pokemon in online battles is a real letdown to most people. Some say it's a glitch and some say it was done intentionally. But there's no excuse. Nintendo had plenty of time to go back and fix issues like this, and for a glitch like this to happen is just a disgrace. And if it was intentional, then all it is, is a gimmick. You shouldn't need a gimmick to make a game harder, it should be challenging on its own.

And here's the kicker, you're paying 50 bucks for this all. That's right. I'm not making this up. You will be paying 50 bucks for this if you choose to buy it.

Bottom Line: Well, if you're a die-hard Pokemon fan then you'll probably buy this regardless of what I say (you might already have it). Those of you that really love multiplayer battles will probably want to check it out. But rent it first. Those that play games to enjoy storylines, avoid this game. It won't satisfy you in the least. And if you HAVE to buy it, wait until the price goes down, because it just isn't worth 50 bucks with all the issues it has. Trust me, there'll still be copies left when the price goes down.

There's also likely to be more incarnations of this game before the system's lifecycle is over (likely without some of the standing issues). So if all else fails, just wait awhile. There'll be other opportunities. Pokemon isn't going anywhere any time soon, believe me. The fact that this game is out already and people are talking about it (regardless of what they say) only goes to prove that the Pokemon craze is still as strong as ever.

 

[Ichida]

Also, why do the Pokemon all still have their cries from the games? And don't give me the lack of disc space excuse, because 4.5 GB of space can easily fit a couple hundred megs (at the VERY most) on it without slowing anything down. All they really had to do was cut and paste it from the Anime. I could do that.

Not replacing cries shows that they still respect their roots. People like me who love the games but hate the anime for misconstruing many Pokemon's powers and for using shitty moves and strategies prefer this to redubbing over all the cries.

Third, and this has been bugging me since the Colosseum games. Why is it, that after FIVE, let me repeat, FIVE games, you still can't see your Pokemon and their Pokemon at the same time when they're doing something? Seriously, you never do. If your Pokemon is using Tackle or Volt Tackle, it would make more sense to show them actually HITTING the Pokemon instead of the same stock footage.

Some attacks do that, you're just not picking the right ones, or you haven't been lucky enough for the camera angle to show the attacker attacking the target. I've seen my Heracross literally smack the enemy with its horn when using Megahorn.

Fourth, the lack of being able to use Legendary Pokemon in online battles is a real letdown to most people. Some say it's a glitch and some say it was done intentionally. But there's no excuse. Nintendo had plenty of time to go back and fix issues like this, and for a glitch like this to happen is just a disgrace. And if it was intentional, then all it is, is a gimmick. You shouldn't need a gimmick to make a game harder, it should be challenging on its own.

Serves them right for using trophies rather than actual competition Pokemon. This topic's been done to death.

And here's the kicker, you're paying 50 bucks for this all. That's right. I'm not making this up. You will be paying 50 bucks for this if you choose to buy it.

So wait a year and buy it for forty. Think about that. Emerald has been out for years and it still costs fifty.

Bottom Line: Well, if you're a die-hard Pokemon fan then you'll probably buy this regardless of what I say (you might already have it). Those of you that really love multiplayer battles will probably want to check it out. But rent it first. Those that play games to enjoy storylines, avoid this game. It won't satisfy you in the least. And if you HAVE to buy it, wait until the price goes down, because it just isn't worth 50 bucks with all the issues it has. Trust me, there'll still be copies left when the price goes down.

- already bought it
- love the competition element
- pwn at least three random PBR n00bs a day
- also love RPGs for their storyline
- PBR isn't an RPG. :P
- willing to not wait a year and to pay the extra ten bucks for the ability to bash random n00bs into the pavement in beautiful 3D WITHOUT FRIEND CODES.

 

[Ichida]

Also, the price of the game may be 50 bucks, but I'm only going to pay 30 for it, if I buy it at all.

So wait a year and buy it for forty. Think about that. Emerald has been out for years and it still costs fifty, and it's a freaking GBA game.

I believe my point has been made. :D

 

[SBaby]

Not replacing cries shows that they still respect their roots. People like me who love the games but hate the anime for misconstruing many Pokemon's powers and for using shitty moves and strategies prefer this to redubbing over all the cries.



Some attacks do that, you're just not picking the right ones, or you haven't been lucky enough for the camera angle to show the attacker attacking the target. I've seen my Heracross literally smack the enemy with its horn when using Megahorn.



Serves them right for using trophies rather than actual competition Pokemon. This topic's been done to death.



So wait a year and buy it for forty. Think about that. Emerald has been out for years and it still costs fifty.



- already bought it
- love the competition element
- pwn at least three random PBR n00bs a day
- also love RPGs for their storyline
- PBR isn't an RPG. :P
- willing to not wait a year and to pay the extra ten bucks for the ability to bash random n00bs into the pavement in beautiful 3D WITHOUT FRIEND CODES.

It'll probably take far less than a year for this one to get down to 40 bucks. It'll be nowhere near as popular as Emerald, because there just aren't enough features in it to keep people playing. If it isn't that price new, you can still expect to see copies of it used for less. I've already got people over at my store asking how much we'll buy it for. If the reviews on Gamefaqs are any indication, it'll probably drop in price in a few months.

Regarding the Legendaries, it's still nothing but a gimmick. I'm just glad I found out about that, because it would've been BAD if I bought it first.

Respecting their roots. If they respected their roots so much, then why isn't Misty in the Anime any more?

When my Pokemon hits an enemy, this is what happens. You see the Pokemon launch into its attack, such as Iron Tail (I'm a sucker for Pachirisu). Then, you either see a side or front view of the enemy getting hit. Not once have I seen the enemy get hit by the Pokemon in question. If it takes that long to see them, then the camera angles could just be bad. Anyway, this part wasn't detrimental to the game or anything, it was just annoying.

I see that you don't get what I mean. No one likes your whining. This topic is dead starting now.

My arguments are going to stop right at this post. In my opinion, the game isn't lacking anything. Best thing I bought. No regrets.

It's not whining. It's a hard fact. And if you refuse to accept it, that's your decision. You're a die-hard fan. And die-hard fans will buy it, regardless of what people say. People still wanted to play Deadly Towers for the NES even though so many reviewers said it was a bad game. And that's fine. But don't go around flaming other people for their opinions.

 

[Pazuzu]

Alright... so much for 'mature' discussions.

All spam/flame/pointless posts have been deleted, if I didn't miss any. I'm still thinking about who will receive some warnings for the crap they posted.
I'm also amazed that neither of you found the report button to end this, but instead continously fuled the fire with their own posts. Big fail there.

So, since this thread failed so badly, I'm putting an end to it here.

~closed~