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Mock Z

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    To clear up any confusion for those looking at this thread for the first time, in the middle of this post I am deciding between using Dragonite and Rotom or Bronzong and Ferrothorn. I am not deciding between the four of them willy-nilly, I am deciding between the teams of Dragonite/Rotom and Bronzong/Ferrothorn. Let me know what you guys think!

    Ninjask lvl 100
    Adamant Nature, Ability: Speed Boost
    EV's: 248HP/244Def/16Speed
    Item: Leftovers
    Moveset:
    X-Scissor
    Baton Pass
    Swords Dance
    Substitute

    The opening move on my team. Ninjask has the EV's on health to take on any starting attack if the opponent decides to be faster, or if my Ninjask is just naturally faster, he Subs to build up speed using Speed Boost. If there's time, throw in a couple Sword Dances for impending doom. X-Scissor for cover (what, you thought I'd have an all status Poke on my time?) Baton Pass at a reasonable time, considering the fact that he will be undeniably faster than anything. Baton Pass to Machamp.

    Machamp lvl 100
    Jolly Nature, Ability: No Guard
    EV's: 252HP/252Atk/4Speed
    Item: Leftovers
    Moveset:
    Substitute
    DynamicPunch
    Stone Edge
    ThunderPunch

    My physical sweep. With the Pass from Nin, his Speed should be atleast par with some of the fastest Poke out there, if not higher. Sub should allow for total sweepage, while DynaPunch is a great STAB 2HKO move, confusing at the same time. Stone Edge to deal with those pesky flying types and Thunderpunch for obvious coverage reasons.

    Salamence
    Jolly Nature
    EV's: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Speed
    Dragon Dance
    ****n Claw/Outrage <-------- Which should I use?
    Earthquake
    Flamethrower

    A back-up physical attacker, in case Machamp decides he wants to sit the rest of the match out. DD should make for some decent sweepage. Can't choose between the more reliable DClaw or the more powerful Outrage as a STAB move, but Earthquake and Flamethrower make use of his amazing move pool.

    Dragonite---------------------------------------------Bronzong
    Item: Leftovers--------------------------------------Item: Light CLay
    Nature: Careful--------------------------------------Nature: Relaxed
    Ability: Multiscale------------------------------------Ability: Levitate
    EV's: 252HP/252SpDef/4Speed-----------OR------EV's: 252HP/152Atk/8Def/96SpDef
    -Thunder Wave--------------------------------------Reflect
    -Substitute-------------------------------------------Light Screen
    -Dragon Tail------------------------------------------Stealh Rock/Explosion
    -Roost------------------------------------------------Gyro Ball/Earthquake

    Ah, shuffling and annoying is so much fun, especially when you're using a womping Dragonite like this. Moves are self-explanatory for Para. Stalling ownage.

    Levitate Rotom--------------------------------------Iron Barbs Ferrothorn
    Timid Nature @ Leftovers--------------------------Relaxed Nature @ Leftovers
    EV's: 252HP/4SpD/252Speed---------OR----------EV's: 252HP/88Def/96SpDef
    -Light Screen----------------------------------------Spikes
    -Reflect-----------------------------------------------Stealth Rock/Leech Seed
    -Will-o-wisp------------------------------------------Gyro Ball/Protect/Thunder Wave
    -Thunderbolt-----------------------------------------Power Whip/Protect

    My team support wall. Might be good to set up those screens if Machamp sweep doesn't work. Can stall out with the Rotom and set up the screens and switch out to Sal or Lux. Will cripples, and I use thunderbolt instead of Shadowball only because Lux already takes care of the Shadowball.

    Lucario lvl 100
    Timid nature, Ability: Steadfast
    Item: Life Orb
    EV's: 252SpAtk/4SpD/252Sp
    Moveset:
    Aura Sphere
    Nasty Plot
    Shadow Ball
    Vacuum Wave

    Special attacker, covering practically everything with Aura and Shadow while becoming a beast with Nasty Plot. Vacuum Wave (which I've recently discovered is a very difficult move to obtain considering I hate breeding) is a nice priority move.

    Tell me what you guys think! What moves should I use? Any changes or improvements? Suggestions? Replacements? Thanks!
     
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    Uh, what are your EV spreads? :O

    I'm going to assume this is an OU team, since Tyranitar and Lucario are in the team.

    Anyway, Machamp is better off as Adamant because it's slow. Since I'm assuming it's OU, replace ThunderPunch with Payback; in OU, ThunderPunch doesn't hit anyone noteworthy outside of Gyarados. This EV spread should be used: 128 HP/252 Atk/128 Spe.

    Ninjask has a hard time Baton Passing in OU because of the prevalence of priority and hard-hitting moves. Gorebyss makes a better Baton Passer because of access to Shell Smash. Even though it's prone to special priority, it has better physical bulk:
    -Shell Smash
    -Baton Pass
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam/Substitute
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/32 SDef/224 Spe
    Item: White Herb

    Gyarados' EV spread should be 248 HP/252 Def/8 Spe.

    I feel that Tyranitar is out of place in the team because your other Pokemon don't really benefit from Sandstorm. You can consider Terrakion because it can use Swords Dance to heighten its huge Attack up to levels when it can cause huge damage to physical walls:
    -Swords Dance
    -Rock Polish
    -Close Combat
    -Stone Edge
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon/Rock Gem

    Dusclops' base 70 Attack isn't enough to cause any noteworthy damage to the opponent; a Bold nature reduces the damage even less. This set should be used:
    -Will-o-Wisp/Toxic
    -Pain Split
    -Night Shade (inflicts consistent damage)
    -Ice Beam (even though it runs off of Dusclops' weaker offensive stat, it gives it a way to deal with Gliscor, Dragonite, Landorus, Salamence, etc.)/Taunt
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/80 Def/176 SDef
    Item: Eviolite
    (and no, you don't have to evolve Dusclops. With the Eviolite, it's bulkier than Dusknoir)

    Lucario's EV spread should be 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe.
     
    Changes made to team. Thanks for the support from PlatinumDude! Any more changes or suggestions?

    Bump with changes explaining a little more about strategy while asking quite convincingly for more help. :D
     
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