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    Infernape~ choice band
    Nature:+ Speed - def
    Evs: 184 Atk / 232 Spd / 92 SAtk
    flare blitz
    Close Combat
    Earthquake
    Grass Knot

    Raichu~Focus Sash
    Nature: +speed -attack
    EV:252 SP.ATK, 252 SPD, 6 HP
    Thunderbolt
    Nasty Plot
    Focus Blast


    Tangrowth~ lefties
    nature: +Def -sp.Attack
    Evs: 252 HP, 216 Def, 40 Atk
    leaf guart
    Knock off
    Power Whip
    leech seed
    sleep powder

    Snorlax ~ lefties
    +Sp.Def -Sp.Attack
    Evs: 172 HP, 40 At, 120 Def, 176 Sp. Def
    thick fat
    rest
    crunch
    curse
    Body slam

    Bronzong~ lefties
    levitate
    nature: + def -Speed
    Evs: 252 HP 152 Sp.Def 105 Def
    Hypnosis
    Gyroball
    heal block
    Toxic

    Suicune~ lefties
    Evs: 128Def 252SpAttack 128 SpDef
    nature: +sp.attack -Attack
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Mirror Coat
    shadow ball
     
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    Yes, i could need some help. I know, some movesets are very strange o.o

    Electivire~ Focus Shash
    6/252/0/0/0/252 (HP,Attack, Defense, Sp.attack, Sp. defense, speed)
    ice punch
    fire punch
    focus punch
    Thunderpunch
    Seems ok, Im not expert on vire. I'd lose focus punch, but then again i only ever run it with sub. The way you type your EVs is a bit complicated, just do it how everyone else does.

    Gengar~ Choice Specs
    6/0/0/252/0/252
    Hypnosis/ mean look
    Shadow Ball
    Sludge Bomb
    Focus Blast /Thunder bolt
    Don't run non-attacking moves on a choiced poke, You're gonna have to switch out which gives them a chance to.Otherwise set seems ok, scrap sludge bomb (Lack of coverage) and mean look, use focus blast, thunderbolt and hypnosis, and use wide lense to constitute for your moves inaccuracy

    Tangrowth~ lefties
    0/0/252/129/129/0
    ancientpower
    energy ball
    leech seed
    sleep powder
    Good. Ive never used it but seems ok. Substitute of AP

    Snorlax ~ lefties
    252/129/0/0/129/0
    rest
    Sleep talk
    Brick Break
    Body slam
    Ok

    Registeel~ Bright Powder
    0/127/128/127/128/0
    Iron head
    Thunderbolt
    Stealth Rock
    Exposion
    Bit weird, Ive never seen a registeel being used before. Firstly Bright powder is a hax move, so scrap it. EVs should ALWAYS be divisible by 4, with the 2 extra shoved anywhere. Im not gonna start on the moveset since ive never encountered this poke ever.

    Suicune~ leftie
    0/0/129/252/129/0
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Mirror Coat
    shadow ball/ Extrasensory
    Again, very strange set. This is possibly the first cune ive seen not being used to wall. It could work, but I'd go with the standard CMcune (If you can find one on this site lol

    Looks like quite a good team, some quite strange stuff ive never seen before. Still, that could work to your advantage, no-one will know what to do lol.
     
    Yes, i could need some help. I know, some movesets are very strange o.o

    Electivire~ Expert Belt / Life Orb
    232 Atk / 176 Spd / 100 SAtk
    ice punch
    fire punch / Earthquake / Flamethrower
    Cross Chop
    Thunderbolt

    Gengar~ Choice Specs
    6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
    Energy Ball
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Focus Blast
    Why would you use a non-damaging move with Choice Specs?

    Tangrowth~ lefties
    252 HP / 40 Atk / 216 Def
    Power Whip
    Earthquake
    leech seed
    sleep powder
    I'm not too keen as to how Tangrowth works, but I know a few people use it Physically.

    Snorlax ~ lefties
    172 HP / 40 Atk / 120 Def / 176 SDef
    rest
    Curse
    Crunch
    Body slam
    Sleep Talk = Suck on Snorlax in 4th Gen.

    Registeel~ Leftovers
    EVs: 208 HP / 80 Atk / 84 Def / 136 SDef
    Iron head
    Thunder / Thunder Wave
    Stealth Rock
    Rest
    Putting a wall to waste with Explosion is the worst idea ever.
    Use Thunder, and abuse ParaFlinch.


    Suicune~ leftie
    240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SDef
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Calm Mind
    Rest / Roar
    Okay, first of all, the format you have your EVs in SUCKS. Put the number, followed by the abbreviation (Atk, Def, Spd, SAtk, or SDef)

    Next, 252 spreads also suck. Perhaps you need to read up on PROPERLY distributing EVs.
    Lastly, you need Natures. They're one of the important parts of team building.

    EDIT: Registeel EVs now included
     
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    thx for rating!
    I will do some changes now, but @Iceman Electivire is used physical. The same is by Tangrowth.
     
    thx for rating!
    I will do some changes now, but @Iceman Electivire is used physical. The same is by Tangrowth.

    Someones never heard of a Mix Sweeper.


    Oh and guys, there never was a problem with a none attacking move on a Choice user. I can't believe people are still not realizing that.

    Ehh..the EVs and movesets need a lot of work

    For Suicune:

    Suicune @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressura
    EVs: 252HP / 252Def / 6SpDef
    Bold anture(+Def, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Calm Mind
    - Rest / Ice Beam
    - Sleep Talk / Roar



    Rehisteel wants Ice Punch.
     
    Oh and guys, there never was a problem with a none attacking move on a Choice user. I can't believe people are still not realizing that.
    So it's okay for Gengar to use Hypnosis, then has to IMMEDIATELY SWITCH BACK OUT WHEN IT COULD BE DOING SOMETHING MUCH USEFUL. Honestly, if you're not going to abuse Choice items to full potential, use a Life Orb.

    And please tell me how and why Registeel can get Ice Punch when:

    A. It's only learnable in Pokemon Emerald, and that Battle Tower is too much of a ****ing headache
    B. There's no room on it to give it Ice Punch (It needs Rest for recovery one way or another, and ParaFlinch needs to be abused on it)
    C. His base Attack sucks too much to use Ice Punch (Is it going to OHKO Garchomp, Gliscor, Dragonite, or Salamence? Hell no, it won't.)

    but @Iceman Electivire is used physical. The same is by Tangrowth.
    So it's okay to allow Skarmory and Gyarados live, right?
    Electivire does NOT need to be all Physical. It requires Thunderbolt if it's going to eliminate the bastard wall named Skarmory that will just make it go away. And Flamethrower's purpose is to screw off Forretress.
     
    hm i testet the cune with the moveset i gave him. And imo it great, because he has great HP Ivs so he survive and thunderbolt with about half HP left. So i could use Mirror Coat and the opposit Pokemon ist down. And even his Sp. Attack is very good. So imo a great kombination.
    But i really have to work on Gengar, Electrive and Registeel. Perhaps i change this Poke with other ones
     
    snorlax should have curse. If you go to sleep without it's defense boost than your destroyed and it gives you a nice atk and not to mention that def boost so you can afford the luxary to sleep and loose speed.
     
    Electivire@Expert Belt
    Lonlely
    252 Atk, 176 Spd, 80 Sp. Atk

    Thunderbolt
    Cross chop
    Ice Punch
    Earthquake

    Gengar@Focus Sash
    Timid
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball
    Thunderbolt
    Energy Ball / Grass Knot

    Tangrowth@Leftovers
    Impish
    252 HP, 202 Def, 56 Atk

    Power Whip
    Sleep Powder / Stun Spore
    Knock Off
    Leech Seed

    Snorlax@Leftovers
    Careful
    128 HP, 44 At, 120 Def, 216 Sp. Def

    Body Slam / Return
    Curse
    Selfdestruct / Rest
    Earthquake / Fire Punch / Crunch

    Registeel@Leftovers
    Relaxed
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Spd

    Superpower
    Toxic
    Thunder / Zap Cannon
    Explosion

    Suicune@Leftovers
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 6 Sp. Atk

    Calm Mind
    Rest
    Surf
    Roar

    ~M51
     
    ok thx for your rates. I have changed some Pokemon now. I think they quite good.o.o
     
    What is +Ang, -Vert? Just say what the Nature is. We can understand that.

    That is a shabby Raichu. Without a point in SPD, he will get KOed by anything & everything before he makes a move. Endure is a crappy move in my opinion, especially on Raichu. Focus Sash is what it needs. Reversal is also pretty pointless on him, especially without Focus Sash. Basically, without ANY points in SPD, he will get KOed before being able to pull off Reversal, as Endure will only last one turn.

    If you're not gonna use Focus Pucnch, don't bother with a physical move on Chu. Rather, you should focus on his SP.ATKing features. Thus, this moveset suits him better:

    Raichu~Focus Sash
    Nature:Timid
    Thunderbolt
    Nasty Plot
    Grass Knot/Surf
    Focus Blast/Thunder Wave/HP ICE
    EV:252 SP.ATK, 252 SPD, 6 HP

    And Iceman says 252 spreads suck. Hah!
     
    I just learned the irony in my earlier statement when I did a 252 spread on Gengar o.O. I need to rephrase my sentences.
    And Apple Jacks has a new team does he?
    Infernape~ focus sash
    Nature:Hasty (+Spd, -Def)
    Evs: 92 Atk / 232 Spd / 184 SAtk
    Flamethrower
    Close Combat
    Nasty Plot
    Grass Knot
    Crass Knot? Lol.

    Raichu~ ?
    Nature: +Sp.Ang - Sp.Vert
    Evs: 252 Sp Attack 152 Sp Attack 105 Attack
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Reversal
    Endure
    Uh, use what sims posted, okay.

    Tangrowth~ lefties
    nature: +Def -sp.Attack
    Evs: 252 HP, 216 Def, 40 Atk
    Knock off
    Power Whip
    leech seed
    sleep powder
    More Defense to raise the unit by 2 points.

    Snorlax ~ lefties
    +Sp.Def -Sp.Attack
    Evs: 172 HP, 40 At, 120 Def, 176 Sp. Def
    rest
    Crunch
    curse
    Body slam
    Are you really going to leave yourself vulnerable to Dusknoir and Gengar? Put Crunch on that thing.

    Bronzong~ lefties
    Levitate
    nature: + Vert -Speed
    Evs: 252 HP 152 Sp.Def 105 Def
    Hypnosis
    Gyroball
    stealt rock
    Toxic/ Rest
    Someone else can deal with Bronzong.

    Suicune~ lefties
    Evs: 240 HP / 252 Def / 16 Spd
    nature: Bold (+Def, -Atk)
    Surf
    Ice Beam
    Roar
    Calm Mind
    Although it might not seem like the biggest problem, Electivire hurts your team.

    Also, be more clear as to what natures you're using. What is ANG anyway, the amount of angst in a Pokemon?
     
    ohh i just see that i`ve made some Mistaks. Sure Raichu gets 252 evs on speed not sp ang o.o btw: in german "attack" is called "Angriff" and "Defense" is called "Verteidigung" , therefore i wrote ang and vert. i will correct that.
     
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    I figured that. We respect cultural differences here. However, it is always easier to just state their natures. NOT +SP.ATK -ATK. Just put Modest. That's much easier to understand.

    Second, I said Timid. Anything else isn't cutting it. It is too slow to pull that off. I also don't agree with Mixed Chu. It isn't powerful enough to run mix. While I don't like saying this (sounds arrogant) I would highly advise you to use my set, as it is great at abusing Focus Sash to pull off STABbed Nasty Ploted Thunderbolts.
     
    thx for your ratings again but @iceman i don`t understand why infernape should get 252 on spdefense? i thought i use it as an fast pokemon with lots of Attack on the begining.
     
    uh is someone going to tell this guy about evs? your evs need to be divisible by 4. otherwise, you're wasting them. emphasis on your suicune.

    also, there are 2 things illegal with your raichu. it can't have surf and that nature. the only nature it can have is Hardy w/ Surf. next, it can't have Surf + Nasty Plot on the same set. pichu learns nasty plot while only pikachu learns Surf. so for it to have both is not possible without hacking.
     
    thx for your ratings again but @iceman i don`t understand why infernape should get 252 on spdefense? i thought i use it as an fast pokemon with lots of Attack on the begining.
    When I say "Spd", it stands for Speed.
    If I say "SDef", then it stands for Sp. Defense.

    Infernape needs his speed, we both know that.
     
    ok thx iceman for replay and right samson, i didn`t know that surf is not breedable, ok i will change this set.

    should i play Raichu so:

    Raichu~ Focus Shash
    Nature: +Attack -Sp Attack
    Evs: 232 speed 122 Sp Attack 154 Attack
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Reversal
    Endure

    or this way?

    Raichu~Focus Sash
    Nature: +speed -attack
    Thunderbolt
    Nasty Plot
    Grass Knot
    Focus Blast
    EV:252 SP.ATK, 252 SPD, 6 HP

    the problem with the second moveset is, that when i play Raichu this way i have no good physical sweeper, because Infernape is also very special. Maybe i should change the moveset from nape? o.o
    Does anybody have an idea, the rest from the team is imo Ok now
     
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    ok thx iceman for replay and right samson, i didn`t know that surf is not breedable, ok i will change this set.

    should i play Raichu so:

    Raichu~ Focus Shash
    Nature: +Attack -Sp Attack
    Evs: 232 speed 122 Sp Attack 154 Attack
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Reversal
    Endure

    or this way?

    Raichu~Focus Sash
    Nature: +speed -attack
    Thunderbolt
    Nasty Plot
    Grass Knot
    Focus Blast
    EV:252 SP.ATK, 252 SPD, 6 HP

    the problem with the second moveset is, that when i play Raichu this way i have no good physical sweeper, because Infernape is also very special. Maybe i should change the moveset from nape? o.o
    Does anybody have an idea, the rest from the team is imo Ok now

    RAICHU IS IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, A PHYSICAL SWEEPER. I will not repeat myself anymore. Why would you use both Focus Sash & Endure?

    Go with the second set.


    And for the last time, TELL THE NATURES. Stop saying +SPD -Attack. Just say Timid.
     
    RAICHU IS IN NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM, A PHYSICAL SWEEPER. I will not repeat myself anymore. Why would you use both Focus Sash & Endure?

    Go with the second set.


    And for the last time, TELL THE NATURES. Stop saying +SPD -Attack. Just say Timid.

    ok ok, it`s bit diffucult for me because i don`t know the english nature names, but i will change that soon. When i play Raichu this way i must change the set from nape or i must change nape to another phyiscal sweeper.
     
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