'Pokémon: Generic' Is the anime a waste?

Charaxes said:
Burnout is part of the writing process, which is what Johto was, so why not acknowledge that and move on?
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Partly because it's my personal opinion as to whether or not the most recent season is half as good as the first season? =/ While I acknowledge the fact that Johto was a burnout (and it really can't be described any other way), I really don't think that has much to do with whether the latest season is of better quality than the first season. Comparatively speaking, yes, Hoenn and beyond are better than Johto, but whether or not they're better than the first season is a different question. While it's all fine and dandy that the anime is taking increasingly after the game, it's my personal opinion that that just doesn't make the show any better than it had been back in the first season. Some people might enjoy that element, but I'm more after plot and the goofiness (without repetition) that the show used to have. Back in the first season, while Brock's perversion was used as a running gag, for example, it wasn't in every other episode, and the viewer wasn't beaten over the head with the concept. In the meantime, nowadays, it seems like Brock can't go through one episode without being Poison Jabbed. It was funny the first time, but the reliance on that element for comic relief still takes away from the feel of the episode. That's just one example, too. The Rockets used to come up with various interesting plans involving occasionally mechas, but they were also prone to using fishing nets, flying stadiums, holes, et cetera. Now, it seems to be primarily mechas, and the entire thing with fantasizing about what Giovanni would do with a certain prize isn't really helping matters. And I'll have to disagree with Dogasu's opinion that the first season was on the same level as of repetition as Johto and beyond are. While in the broadest sense, one might make connections, it's not as blatant. Besides, if one saw everything in the broadest sense, the argument could possibly apply to every other anime out there. Sailormoon? Destruction of the youma of the day. Neon Genesis Evangelion? Shinji angst paired with Angel versus Eva fights. What I'm looking at is the narrower sense, whether or not I see the same elements used over and over again.

I'm not looking for perfection, either. I know that the anime won't ever be perfect. However, I don't see it as anything particularly exciting, the way I saw -- and still see -- the first season. I don't mind watching episodes from the first season over and over again. The latest season, however, I can watch an episode about once, flag it as something similar to what I've seen before, and not bother with the episode again, especially since I've come to realize that a lot of the latest season reminds me of the Hoenn arc. There might be an episode somewhere down the line that would make me want to watch it over again, but otherwise, not really.

When you get right down to it, it's just personal opinion. I have no hesitation in saying that it's purism, but I genuinely believe that the anime hasn't recovered fully from Johto and fell into a reliance of repetition that just didn't exist in the first season. It's a bit like saying the entire series is crap, but after watching the most recent season so far, I just don't feel that something that the first season had. Quite possibly nothing will change that opinion, either, unless the series breaks out with something extraordinary that doesn't make me point back to a previous season, tilt my head, and say, "Didn't they already kinda do that?"
 
I do agree with you, Jax, however, I wanted to show the other side/shift the argument. Fans are always going to say, "this season teh best!" "Nu, mine issss!" And personal opinion is always part of the equation, but can one sound objective enough to judge, otherwise, that's bias. You've clearly demonstrated objectivity, and if not, it's all the same.

The anime is what it is -- I wouldn't treat it as like Special or anything, as it has different standards. Now, your running joke example, most likely, that's going to be there 'til the end of time. Best to ignore it, as I did with a majority of the Victreebel eating James jokes/Misty's ear-pulling, etc.

Dissent is important, as the writers knew they couldn't keep up the Johto lack of quality anymore. Meanwhile, they're trying not to resort to re-using Kanto plots, and it's more or less working. However, in such a loooooooooooooooong series, there can be comparisons, yet they shouldn't. There are really like 30-40 some ways to tell a story, and I'm sure the anime used them all.

Now, with D/P, there is the possibility of holding the writers to a higher quality and finally be more critical. Since they're proving they can meet the bar on occasion. I think the time is coming, as fans are demanding to wanting more in a wave that unprecedented in the fandom.

Of course, that's just my opinion. Heh.
 
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I'll respect your opinion and would like to apologize for being so defensive about my own. Regarding the last paragraph, yeah, that's pretty much why I continue to watch the season (and why I've watched every season of Hoenn as well). There's always the hope that it'll be better, and I guess I'm getting a bit impatient. Hence, I'll go with your (indirect?) advice and wait and see.
 
It happens plenty. Of course, text removing specific tones doesn't help matters ("I was joking, so why do you think I'm sooper seriiious?"). I honestly didn't think you were out of line as such, no. However, that's the danger of the intraweb.

Truthfully, I used to felt the same way around the third season, then I gave up. That helps against the bad writing considerably. I'd wait for 20 more episodes, then I think you can finally start to form a proper opinion on D/P itself.

Hey, I'm just glad you listened. Grins.
 
I love what's bein said here, especially SBaby's post.
Even if the show's an ad campaign for merchandise, i still believe the anime could be better. Many companies make millions on merchandising without compromising the quality of their tv shows. I just see a potential for an amazing tv show in Pokemon. The Mystery Dungeon game is a great example of how great Pokemon can be, in terms of a well developed story.
To me Quality > Quantity. :D
 
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