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    do you think it's possible that d/p will have a pokedex upgrade for the r/s/e/lg/fr games? I mean it is possible cause fr/lg/e had the berry upgrade for r/s.
     

    trjessie579

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    That was a glitch fix, that's completely different. There's no way you could trade any of the new D/P Pokemon over to the 3rd gen games because those new Pokemon aren't programmed into the old games.

    They HAVE announced that D/P will be backwards compatible, so you can trade your 3rd gen Pokemon to D/P, and possibly trade any of the first 386 Pokemon from D/P to R/S/E/FR/LG, like they did with R/B/Y and G/S/C.
     

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    but what I'm saying is that you could pop your r/s/lg/fr/e game into the bottom of the ds and stick d/p in the top, start up d/p press whatever button combination, and the r/s/fr/lg/e game would be updated with all the new moves and pokemon.
     

    trjessie579

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    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it's just got to be more complicated than that.

    You can get the National Pokedex in all of the 3rd gen games, but that's because all 386 Pokemon are already programmed in to every game.

    Programming more Pokemon into the 3rd gen games couldn't be done with just an "upload," the entire game's data would have to be overhauled. The new Pokemon would have new moves that also wouldn't be programmed into the games...plus ALL of the information, like what levels they evolve and gain moves, etc.

    It's just too much data.
     

    ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~

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  • I think what they will probably do is just create 200 Pokemon and when the next game comes out well you get the point. They might make remakes of R/B/Y/G and R/S/E/FR/LG for the DS.

    ~Dark Venusaur
     

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    hmm... the patch could happen cause missingno. is extra data, right? so if they created that patch it would just take missiongno.'s data and erase it from the game and replace it with the new data, right?.
     

    ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~

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  • Blaziken_Lover said:
    hmm... the patch could happen cause missingno. is extra data, right? so if they created that patch it would just take missiongno.'s data and erase it from the game and replace it with the new data, right?.
    Thats a good idea. But the missing no. can't do any cheats for you like it did in the other games. Also it can't erase your data ether or make the game crash. It could have the same moves like it did in RBYG version and it type can be part bird.

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  • It's plausible that they might do this sort of thing, but don't get your hopes up. Here's why it's plausible:
    -The GBA carts are, in fact, EEPROM. Or so say the flash linker communities.
    -The Japanese FR/LG/Em carts have about 6MB of unused space; enough for a couple hundred new Pokémon, new moves, possible hold items, etc.. The English carts have even more unused space. Japanese Ruby/Sapphire are jam-packed to the top, so we can rule out that they'll receive an update, despite the fact that the English versions have lots of unused space.
    -The Pokédex/movest/art/etc. data are based on lists of pointers, so all they'd need to do is extend those lists and flash the new data into the unused space. No need to overhaul the actual executable code. What dver suggested was basically a naïve, oversimplification of this, since out-of-range pointers (pointers to pointers, rather) all direct to Missingno.

    Despite this, don't get your hopes up. Nintendo's never done any significant form of update to any existing product, so there's a good chance they won't do it this time, either. What would be more likely is a new fourth-gen RPG on the GBA, perhaps a G/S/C remake. (don't shoot me! XD)
     

    ~*!*~Tatsujin Gosuto~*!*~

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  • Yeah your probably right. the people that are making the Pokemon games might be smart enough to leave these gliches up. Since this is a new centry technology does get better.

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