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Levski

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    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 76 SAtk
    Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
    - Focus Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunder

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 52 Def / 4 Spd / 64 SAtk / 64 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Body Slam
    - Fire Blast
    - Focus Punch
    - Selfdestruct

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 196 HP / 16 Def / 136 Spd / 160 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Toxic
    - Wish

    Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 2 Atk / 216 Def / 40 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunderbolt

    Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Surf

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 180 HP / 188 Atk / 140 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide
     

    Rubberbandman

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    Fixes in Bold

    Levski said:
    OU.

    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 76 SAtk
    Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
    - Focus Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunder

    Gar doesnt need that much attack since it cant really dent anything but bliss and Celebi, put more in Special Attack

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 52 Def / 4 Spd / 64 SAtk / 64 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Shadow Ball
    - Fire Blast
    - Counter
    - Selfdestruct
    no speed needed on lax, Shadow Ball>Body Slam (or Gar walls it) and Counter>Focus Punch IMO

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 196 HP / 16 Def / 136 Spd / 160 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Toxic
    - Wish

    Meh, cant help with this =/

    Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 2 Atk / 216 Def / 40 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb/Will-o-Wisp
    - Thunderbolt/Will-o-Wisp

    This Weezing cant scare off CBers because it has no will-o-wisp, it cant dent Blissey cause it doesnt have enough Attack EVs to damage it and cant dent Skarm because it doesnt have enough SpAttack EVs to damage it.


    Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Surf

    Too much Defense not enough Special Defense.

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 180 HP / 188 Atk / 140 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide
    Max out attack, less HP
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    Levski

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    Gar doesnt need that much attack since it cant really dent anything but bliss and Celebi, put more in Special Attack
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    Snorlax says hi.

    no speed needed on lax, Shadow Ball>Body Slam (or Gar walls it) and Counter>Focus Punch IMO
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    Lol Counter. I will need to be at full HP to have a chance to survive a physical hit, so it won't really be that effective.
    Gar doesn't wall Fire Blast Lax, as it breaks it's Sub.

    Meh, cant help with this =/
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    Only heard of standard wallable and predictable DDmence/CBmence, have you? Wishmence ftw.

    This Weezing cant scare off CBers because it has no will-o-wisp, it cant dent Blissey cause it doesnt have enough Attack EVs to damage it and cant dent Skarm because it doesnt have enough SpAttack EVs to damage it.
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    Milotic says hi.
    It outstalls Blissey with Pain Split. Skarm doesn't stay in once it sees I have Thunderbolt.

    Max out attack, less HP
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    Meh, it lets me survive some stuff.
     

    Rubberbandman

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    Levski said:
    Snorlax says hi.
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    Not with a sub up it doesnt



    Levski said:
    Lol Counter. I will need to be at full HP to have a chance to survive a physical hit, so it won't really be that effective.
    Gar doesn't wall Fire Blast Lax, as it breaks it's Sub.
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    Counter at against starter pokes will OHKO iirc, then Boom after that

    Lol, F-Blast's limited PP


    Levski said:
    Only heard of standard wallable and predictable DDmence/CBmence, have you? Wishmence ftw.
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    No, I use speical mence somtimes, btw. I just never see myself using it cause I rarely use Modded moves

    Levski said:
    Milotic says hi.
    It outstalls Blissey with Pain Split. Skarm doesn't stay in once it sees I have Thunderbolt.
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    Yes, Milotic going to wall it either way with no sp.attack evs to actually hurt it. Skarm doesnt take enough from T-bolt to switch out right away,letting it put down another set of spikes. And btw, Skarm outspeeds Weezing, letting Skarm rest either way


    Levski said:
    Meh, it lets me survive some stuff.
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    n3croart

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    Metagross @ Leftovers
    EV's: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Agility
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
     

    rekt

    tentarape
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    Gengar (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 Atk / 180 Spd / 76 SAtk
    Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
    - Focus Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunder

    Ok, it works I guess, but I don't really see what this is doing compared to other Gengar's. Thunderbolt for sure as it dies to lots of stuff especiall with -Def.

    Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 132 HP / 192 Atk / 52 Def / 4 Spd / 64 SAtk / 64 SDef
    Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
    - Body Slam
    - Fire Blast
    - Focus Punch
    - Selfdestruct

    ^________^

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 196 HP / 16 Def / 136 Spd / 160 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Toxic
    - Wish

    I like Protect myself, but whatever floats your boat. Protect means you can get the Wish and Protect against the Ice Beam.

    Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 2 Atk / 216 Def / 40 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Haze
    - Pain Split
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunderbolt

    WoW please, over Thunderbolt is best. If you do that make sure to Impish nature it as you want that extra speed. I use Explosion on my Weezing

    Milotic (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 228 HP / 252 Def / 28 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Surf

    Interesting, Suicune resttalks much better than Milotic though, so maybe try it out, or use a different set.

    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 180 HP / 188 Atk / 140 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide

    No Adamant because why?


    I believe this is the team that beat me in SPPF OU, except different Milo set.
     

    rekt

    tentarape
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    this is for netbattle, it isnt like we spend time to get this ingame

    .__.
     

    Levski

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    Yeah rekt that's the team. I had HP Electric on Sala and HP Grass on Milo, that's the only difference.

    And changed Metagross;


    Metagross @ Choice Band ** m455 p4n1c
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 116 HP / 176 Atk / 88 Def / 128 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide


    I really don't like Milo coming in on Wow's, I might try it though.

    And Sala is now;

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Gnib
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 232 HP / 57 Def / 121 Spd / 100 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Dragon Claw
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Wish
     
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    n3croart

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    fixes in bold.

    Levski said:
    Yeah rekt that's the team. I had HP Electric on Sala and HP Grass on Milo, that's the only difference.

    And changed Metagross;


    Metagross @ Choice Band ** m455 p4n1c
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 116 HP / 176 Atk / 88 Def / 128 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide


    Much better. CBgross.

    And Sala is now;

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Gnib
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 232 HP / 57 Def / 121 Spd / 100 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Hidden Power [Flying]
    - Rock Slide
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    good ... ...
     

    Synchronize

    Donphan: My Fourth Love
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    Levski said:
    Yeah rekt that's the team. I had HP Electric on Sala and HP Grass on Milo, that's the only difference.

    And changed Metagross;


    Metagross @ Choice Band ** m455 p4n1c
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 116 HP / 176 Atk / 88 Def / 128 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash
    - Rock Slide

    CB likes Max Attack

    I really don't like Milo coming in on Wow's, I might try it though.
    Marvel Scale maybe?

    And Sala is now;

    Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** Gnib
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 232 HP / 57 Def / 121 Spd / 100 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Dragon Claw
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Wish
    More like Timid. Protect works better over HP Grass/Dragon Claw. Though Wish/Protect/Flamethrower/Toxic works the best for a Wish set IMO.
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    People should stop fearing Swampert switching in, goodness.
     

    Levski

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    Lugialord do you understand that I don't need/want a DDmence/CBmence?

    Max attack isn't that needed on CBmence, it does a good deal of damage without it. And what about Marvel Scale, did you understand that that's why I don't like WoW?

    I was considering Protect, still thinking about it. I usually pass the Wishes to other Pokemon. HP Grass is awesome.
     

    shanecdavis

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    Putting more EVs in Atk is more effective for Metagross than spreading it out over multiple stats.

    Protect allows Salamence to do both.

    BTW - Synch, I think he was talking about not wanting WoW on Weezing because that usual means Milotic shows up. He just didn't word it very well.
     
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    Levski

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    I'll put more Atk on Meta.

    I don't know what to remove on Salamence for Protect, though. And yeah, I suppose I didn't word that in the best way possible.
     

    Synchronize

    Donphan: My Fourth Love
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    shanecdavis said:
    Putting more EVs in Atk is more effective for Metagross than spreading it out over multiple stats.

    Protect allows Salamence to do both.

    BTW - Synch, I think he was talking about not wanting WoW on Weezing because that usual means Milotic shows up. He just didn't word it very well.
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    Ah, much better.
    An additional Metagross note:

    400+ Atk is a very important factor on Metagross, especially since weezing can BARELY take two consecutive STABed Meteor Mashes. It's not really a factor of doing a good amount of damage, its about making sure you demolish your opponent when you DO inflict damage. Also gets a nice 70%ish damage on Skarm after Explosion.

    200-205 Speed is really all that's needed.

    Any leftover EVs can go into HP and Def, mainly HP.
     
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