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Possible Competitive team?

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    I would love to use this team competitively, but I feel like it needs some changing. If anyone could suggest natures and held items maybe? I'm not sure about movesets either, but do you think this team could have some decent synergy?



    "Deciecia" (Mawile) - Baton Pass/Feint Attack/Fairy Wind/Swords Dance
    "Kingpin" (Snorlax) - Rest/Sleep Talk/Belly Drum/Giga Impact
    "Nightwing" (Hawlucha) - Bounce/Flying Press/Focus Blast/Aerial Ace
    "Foxy" (Delphox) - Psychic/Blast Burn/Power-Up Punch/Flamethrower
    "Daffy" (Golduck) - Focus Blast/Psychic/Surf/Ice Beam
    "Oleander" (Venusaur) - Petal Dance/Sleep Powder/Bulldoze/Swords Dance


    Thanks in advance guys!
     
    Welcome to PC, shanetheshaggy!

    Mawile: You're better off using a different Pokemon for Baton Passing. Mawile doesn't do the job very well, but instead can pull off offensive and, to a lesser extent, defensive roles much better. Additionally, your team doesn't benefit much from Baton Passed Atk boosts, so I don't think you need one to begin with. As a result, I recommend using the following moveset:

    Mawile @ Mawilite
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 132 HP / 252 Atk / 124 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Play Rough
    - Sucker Punch
    - Fire Fang
    - Swords Dance

    Sucker Punch is for priority, as Mawile is slow. Fire Fang is for Skarmory, Gourgeist, etc. Swords Dance can be used if you see an opportunity to sweep.

    Snorlax: Your moveset isn't effective. For one, Belly Drum Snorlax is easily dealt with due to its low Speed, lack of priority moves, weakness to strong physical attacks, and so on. Even if you did use it, you would need more coverage moves such as Earthquake, Fire Punch, Crunch, etc. Giga Impact in particular isn't viable due to the recharge turn. Said recharge turn lets your opponent nab a free switch to a Pokemon who can effectively deal with Snorlax, or set up a sweep with a dangerous Pokemon like Lucario. The power gain is simply not worth it. You're better off using Self-Destruct if you want to go out with a bang. However, you wouldn't want to use either with a set-up move, because it would end Snorlax's sweep. So, I suggest using this moveset instead:

    Snorlax @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Thick Fat
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 SDef / 4 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Body Slam
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Punch / Crunch
    - Self-Destruct

    By utilizing the SAtk boost from Assault Vest, this Snorlax can easily check most special attackers. Body Slam helps spread paralysis, especially for Mawile. Earthquake is for Steel-types. Fire Punch is for Genesect, Scizor, Ferrothorn, etc. Crunch is for Ghost-types.

    Movesets aside, I do recommend replacing Snorlax with Blissey. Some pros by doing so: a) Blissey can spread paralysis better to help slow down the opposing team, and therefore improve Mawile's sweeping potential; and b) Blissey has the ability to heal your team of status, as Mawile is very susceptible to status.

    Hawlucha: Acrobatics is better than Bounce. Bounce is too predictable and should only be used on Pokemon who don't have any other Flying-type moves available to them (looking at you, Gyarados). Flying Press also isn't useful, unfortunately. Hawlucha gets better coverage by using its two STABs separately. Hawlucha has a low SAtk, so Focus Blast shouldn't be used.

    Hawlucha @ Liechi Berry
    Ability: Unburden
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    - Acrobatics
    - High Jump Kick
    - Swords Dance
    - Substitute

    Substitute while the opponent switches out, get in a Swords Dance if you're faster, Sub some more until Liechi activates, and sweep. Alternatively, you could use something more gimmicky like Dread Plate with Fling over Substitute, then it can OHKO Aegislash after Stealth Rock damage.

    Delphox: Power-Up Punch doesn't benefit the fox at all, since Delphox is specially offensive. Use Calm Mind instead. Use Psyshock over Psychic to hit Blissey and Chansey. Replace Blast Burn with Shadow Ball for coverage against Lati@s. Life Orb or Leftovers is preferred. EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd and Timid Nature.

    Golduck: Use Hydro Pump over Surf. Golduck needs all the power it can get. Focus Blast doesn't hit any notable Pokemon, so go with Hidden Power Grass if you can get it. Use Life Orb for the power boost. EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd. Timid Nature to help with Golduck's low Spd.

    Anyway, Golduck isn't viable at all. It's heavily outclassed by numerous other Water-types, including Rotom-W, which is the Pokemon I suggest replacing Golduck with. By doing so, you can better deal with Pokemon such as Talonflame.

    Venusaur: Venusaur is too slow to sweep effectively without sun. Use something like:

    Venusaur @ Leftovers
    Ability: Overgrow / Chlorophyll
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 SDef
    Modest Nature
    - Giga Drain
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Synthesis

    Hidden Power Fire for Steel-types. Synthesis for recovery.

    However, its Mega Evolution does this much better, but you can't use it with Mega Mawile. Still, Pokemon like Amoonguss, Celebi, and such pull off the bulky Grass-type role better than Venusaur.
     
    To add to Wolf's suggestions, Hawlucha isn't exactly the best choice competitively because it needs Flying Gem to work to its full potential; this also makes it less reliant on SubLiechi to activate Unburden. A better Fighting Pokemon to use is Lucario:
    -Nasty Plot
    -Aura Sphere
    -Flash Cannon
    -Shadow Ball/Dark Pulse/Vacuum Wave
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Lucarionite
    Ability: Inner Focus/Steadfast

    or
    -Swords Dance
    -Close Combat
    -Extreme Speed/Bullet Punch
    -Crunch/Shadow Claw/Ice Punch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Lucarionite

    Delphox is horribly outclassed by the many Fire Pokemon in OU, such as Heatran, Talonflame and even Chandelure, but I'll suggest the first two, since Chandelure is very rarely seen in OU:

    Heatran:
    -Lava Plume
    -Stealth Rock
    -Protect/Earth Power
    -Roar/Toxic
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SDef/8 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Fire Blast
    -Flash Cannon/Hidden Power (Ice)
    -Earth Power
    -Stealth Rock/Taunt/Toxic
    Nature: Timid/Modest
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon
    Ability: Flash Fire

    or
    -Overheat/Fire Blast
    -Flash Cannon/Hidden Power (Ice/Grass)
    -Earth Power
    -Flamethrower/Hidden Power (Ice/Grass)
    Nature: Modest/Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
    Ability: Flash Fire

    Talonflame:
    -Swords Dance
    -Flare Blitz
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Sharp Beak/Sky Plate
    Ability: Gale Wings

    or
    -Flare Blitz
    -Brave Bird
    -U-turn
    -Will-o-Wisp/Tailwind
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Band
    Ability: Gale Wings

    or
    -Bulk Up
    -Brave Bird
    -Roost
    -Substitute/Taunt
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 248 HP/172 SDef/84 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Gale Wings

    If you insist on keeping Delphox, this is the set to use, but I should warn you, Tyranitar and Hydreigon hard-counter it:
    -Fire Blast
    -Psyshock
    -Grass Knot
    -Switcheroo/Shadow Ball
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
    Ability: Blaze

    As Wolflare mentioned, Golduck is badly outclassed by other Water Pokemon in OU. Greninja, Starmie and Wash Rotom are ideal Water Pokemon to use:

    Greninja:
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Dark Pulse
    -Extrasensory/Dark Pulse
    -U-turn/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Hasty/Naive/Timid
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb
    Ability: Protean

    or
    -Spikes
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Ice Beam/Extrasensory
    -U-turn/Hidden Power (Fire)
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash

    Wash Rotom:
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Pain Split
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 248 HP/216 Def/44 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Thunderbolt
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 228 HP/60 SAtk/220 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    or
    -Volt Switch
    -Hydro Pump
    -Hidden Power (Ice)/Thunderbolt
    -Trick
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Choice Scarf

    Starmie (highly recommended because you have Pokemon weak to Stealth Rock):
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Thunderbolt/Psyshock
    -Ice Beam
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 252 SAtk/4 SDef/252 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Life Orb
    Ability: Natural Cure

    or
    -Scald
    -Rapid Spin
    -Psyshock/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
    -Recover
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 248 HP/32 Def/4 SAtk/224 Spe
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Natural Cure

    If Venusaur is used outside of Sun teams, it should be in its Mega form:
    -Giga Drain
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Earthquake/Leech Seed/Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Synthesis
    Nature: Relaxed/Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SDef or 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
    Item: Venusaurite

    or
    -Giga Drain/Leech Seed
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Hidden Power (Fire)
    -Synthesis
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 SAtk
    Item: Venusaurite

    If you opted to use Mega Lucario, Ferrothorn, Trevenant and Gourgeist are suitable substitutes for Venusaur:

    Ferrothorn:
    -Spikes/Stealth Rock
    -Leech Seed
    -Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
    -Power Whip/Protect
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/208 Def/48 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs

    Trevenant:
    -Horn Leech/Wood Hammer
    -Earthquake/Rock Slide
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Rest
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/180 Def/76 Spe
    Item: Leftovers/Lum Berry
    Ability: Natural Cure/Harvest

    or
    -Horn Leech
    -Shadow Claw/Leech Seed
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Protect
    Nature: Careful
    EVs: 244 HP/16 Def/248 SDef
    Item: Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Harvest

    or
    -Substitute
    -Leech Seed
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Phantom Force
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/180 Def/76 Spe
    Item: Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Harvest

    Gourgeist:
    -Will-o-Wisp
    -Leech Seed
    -Seed Bomb
    -Shadow Sneak/Protect
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Def
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Frisk
     
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