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    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Drill Peck
    - Rest
    - Roar
    - Spikes

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Surf

    This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

    Regice @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Psych Up
    - Rest
    - Thunderbolt

    This is cool with CM passes too.

    Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Focus Punch
    - Pain Split
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.

    R8 M3
     
    Awesome! I like your move sets. It is better than mine. Just one little thing, I would advise getting rid of Celebi's Baton Bass for Leech Seed.
     
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    No, don't get rid of Baton Pass. Like you said, most of your team benefits from CM passes and its the only way you'll be able to escape Dugtrio.

    Anyways, the team is pretty standard. I'm not sure if starting with Salamence is a good idea. A lot of people start with Zapdos and Regice nowadays, which Salamence can't handle. Regice would be a better starter, as it scares off other special starters as well as other Salamence.

    Starmie already survives two Metagross Meteor Mashes, so I wouldn't be worried about making it so defenseive.

    I'd also max out Regice's HP, since with Calm, its gonna have insanely high Sp. Defense anyways.

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    Synchronize said:
    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) Lonely(ATK+/DEF-)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast Hydro Pump
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.
    Y use Adamant if using an SA?

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Drill Peck
    - Rest
    - Roar
    - Spikes
    This seems to be standard but needs a spot for Sandstorm.
    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Surf
    Needs T/Bolt.
    This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

    Regice @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Psych Up
    - Rest
    - Thunderbolt

    This is cool with CM passes too.

    Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk) Y not (DEF+/SPD-)
    - Focus Punch Ice Beam
    - Pain Split
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp
    Always use speed-killing nature on Dusclops.

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.
    Mega Healer Celebi>this Celebi
    R8 M3
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    needs help die limit die now
     
    ewwww

    Salamence: Adamant is standard. Fire Blast 1-2HKOs Steel types with Adamant anyway. Lonely nature only belongs on Charizard/Gengar.

    Skarmory: adskfjkfajfdaf WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU GIVE A SKARMORY SANDSTORM?

    Starmie: doesn't need Tbolt. It needs to beable to OHKO Salamence.

    Dusclops: You don't need -Speed nature on Dusclops. Ice BEam sucks on Dusclops.

    Celebi: What the heck is Mega Healer Celebi? CM + Baton Pass makes Regice and Starmie deadly. There is no real better Celebi set, it all depends on your team. Like a staller set with Leech Seed is coolest used with Tyranitar's Sand Stream.
     
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    *sigh*

    swiftcommander, don?t rate Netbattle teams if you don?t have a firm understanding of the metagame.

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    Fixes in bold and such.

    Synchronize said:
    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    Give it more Speed to outrun other Mence. HYDRO PUMP IS COOL TOO.

    Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 240 HP / 56 Atk / 196 Def / 16 Spd
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Drill Peck
    - Rest
    - Roar
    - Spikes

    Yes I did just do that.

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Surf

    Standard.

    This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

    Regice @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Psych Up
    - Rest
    - Thunderbolt

    Standard.

    This is cool with CM passes too.

    Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Focus Punch
    - Pain Split
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp

    S-Toss is good too.

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Needs 148 Speed EVs.

    Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.

    R8 M3
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    I R8'd just as you asked, lol.    :D
     
    Synchronize said:
    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Trait: Intimidate
    EVs: 84 HP / 252 Atk / 52 Def / 120 Spd
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power [Flying]

    Ok, I understand why Rikku uses these EVs now :). This + 2 CMs from Celebi + 1 DD is purty scary.

    Start with Regice. Consider Hydro Pump as well; even HP Grass has its uses.

    Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Drill Peck
    - Rest
    - Roar
    - Spikes

    I stop defense ev's at 400, place 8 into speed to outrun other skarms and put the leftovers in special defense so you can possibly survive 3 mence fire blasts.

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 172 HP / 96 Spd / 240 SAtk
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Recover
    - Surf

    This is also cool with a CM pass :). I should prolly add some Def so I can switch in on Meta easier :(.

    No you shouldn't.

    Regice @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EVs: 204 HP / 140 Def / 104 SAtk / 60 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, - Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Psych Up
    - Rest
    - Thunderbolt

    This is cool with CM passes too.

    This is good.

    Dusclops (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 252 HP / 28 Atk / 200 Def / 28 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Focus Punch
    - Pain Split
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp

    I always like Thief, obviously with no item, over Shadow Ball to cripple stuff like Blissey or Milotic, but that's just preference, but all the same its worth the consideration imo.

    Celebi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 240 HP / 116 Def / 152 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Baton Pass
    - Calm Mind
    - Psychic
    - Recover

    Needs another slot for Leech Seed IMO :(.

    I think 384 HP will do, I don't even think 401 is maximum Lefties recovery. HP Grass over Psychic can kill unwanted Dugtrio switchins, you might want some special attack though, which you will have if you lower the HP.

    R8 M3
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    Keep Regice alive, Bolt Beam rapes your team otherwise, slight Tyranitar weakess, not to mention nothing can really take repeated Meteor Mash switchins, even Skarmory takes 30% from one.
     
    Special walls starting out is not a good idea IMO.
     
    Regice is among the best starters, lol. It makes all other starters **** their pants...
     
    Lonely is pretty stupid because Adamant, despite the Special Attack down, still 2ohkos Skarmory and does enough damage it needs to do... Salamence needs that special defense badly for things like non ice beam Suicune and attempting to switch in on Celebi, etc.
     
    swiftcommander said:
    It tells you that Adamant is not a good nature for something that uses special attacks. Lonely would be better because you are not taking out Fire Blast/Hydro Pump's power.
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    Use the damage calculator on NB to see what an Adamant Fire Blast from Sala does to Skarmory.
     
    swiftcommander watch yourself. Yes my students are supposed to show some nonsensical things that appear such as Adamant Mence, but don't draw too much fire.
    Mega Healer Celebi is Heal Bell/Sub/Recover/Leech Seed btw.
     
    elitefour_protector said:
    swiftcommander watch yourself. Yes my students are supposed to show some nonsensical things that appear such as Adamant Mence, but don't draw too much fire.
    Mega Healer Celebi is Heal Bell/Sub/Recover/Leech Seed btw.
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    lol. Student. I find it funny that a bad player is trying to be a good teacher. the Celebi set is kinda dumb IMO. There's not point in Substitute because you can't do anything that really takes advantage of it. Perish Song or Psychic would be better.
     
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