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[Squeenix]

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Blissey @ Focus Sash (if ape is a lead i dont get 0wned although that is n00b to lead ape)
Nature: Bold
Ability: Serene Grace
Evs: 252 def 252 hp 6 sp. atk
- Counter
- Seismic toss
- Softboiled
- Ice Beam

My Blissey, people would be like , wth n00b u put blizzy as your lead u bumhead.
Then Gyrados used earthquake! Blissey used counter! Gyrados has fainted!

Yeah, but do you guys have any suggestions for predicting?

Because it would be like Gyrados used dragon dance! Blissey used counter, nothing happened, my cover is

blown!

Supriser? Special wall if actually gets out alive.


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Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Pressure
Evs: 252 hp 208 atk 5 Sdef
- Taunt
- Sucker Punch
- Pain Split
- Will-o-wisp

Taunt = pokemon trying to set up on me
Sucker Punch = The exact amount of ev's i need to 1hko azelf
Painsplit =Duhh
Will-o-wisp =Ohh you big bad physical sweepers and tanks coming in here to kill me, Now go crying to

your mom because your burned!

Mixed Tank/Wall?

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Forretress @ Shed shell
Ability: Sturdy
Nature: Relaxed
Evs: 252hp 162atk 96def
- Toxic Spikes
- Gyro Ball
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion

Set pretty much standard (I HATE RAPID SPINNERS! they're a waste of space in your party)

Rapid spinner/Spiker/Physical Wall

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Azelf @ Expert Belt
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
Ev's: 36 hp 220 spd 252 sp.atk
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot

Nasty plot set, uses nasty plot once or twice and takes down a whole team, end of story!

Special Sweeper

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Skarmory@Shed Shell
Nature: Naive
Ability: Keen Eye
Ev's: 252hp 252 spd 6def
-Drill Peck
-Roost
-Spikes
-whirlwind

The 252 speed is for whirlwinding the pokemon out as fast as you can, tspiking with forrtress and

spiking with skymory=0wnd although i wish he was faster. Atleast it will outspeed things like gyrados

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Neeed physical sweeper here, suggestions n31

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[Outlawed]

I think this team is far too Physical. Also, SpecMence with brick break will give you a really hard time.

 

[El Gofre]

Im sorry but what's going on with that blissey? Even if you do survive what use is a wall with 1HP? Besides, tyranitar or anything with weather effects lols at you. You said it yourself, "Special wall if it gets out alive". Its too risky a strategy.
In fact, looking through this team, its like 4 walls being used offensively and a special sweeper. Sorry to tell you, but this whole lot's kinda fail-orientated.

 

[boo836]

1. Nape leads are not n00bish. 2. Focus sash on bliss? Lefties please. 3. Skarm is screwed. No evs in defence = screwed. And, also, get rid of is speed. I can't remember the evs though and I'm too lazy to check. :P 4. Spiritomb's evs have leftovers and are needing less att and alot more defences.(Still too lazy.) And careful nature with him please. I'm just going to let others take care of you.

 

[Phazon]

Why do you think Infernape leads are noobish?

 

[sims796]

Im sorry but what's going on with that blissey? Even if you do survive what use is a wall with 1HP? Besides, tyranitar or anything with weather effects lols at you. You said it yourself, "Special wall if it gets out alive". Its too risky a strategy.
In fact, looking through this team, its like 4 walls being used offensively and a special sweeper. Sorry to tell you, but this whole lot's kinda fail-orientated.

I comepletely agree with this. Hoping and wishing a strategy will work is a comlete failure, sorry to say. In fact, hoping & wishing isn't a strategy at all. It ins't a sp.wall if you hope for it to live. Second, Ttar leads makes that useless. And sacrificing a great sp.wall to take out the opposition is stupid.


First, ya need to do a bit more research. Roar/Whilwind goes last regardless of speed. And why in good heveans are you using him for attack? Did you see his defense? Does the words "one of the best physical walls" ring a bell?

And worst of all, worst of all, you have 0 walls. Just because you have wall pokemon, doesn't mean squat since they have VERY LITTLE POINTS IN DEF. Stop trying to have everyone attack.

 

[Anti]

So tell me what Forretress and Skarmory on the same team is about?

Inferanpe leads suck since they die to every common lead and just...they just suck :/ Infernape already dies quickly, letting it square off with Hippowdon to start is a bad idea.

loled at 252 speed EVs on Skarmory.

Smogon's Forretress EVs are no good, yet people always use them...relaxed/Impish - 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def please.

Honestly what is with 5 SDef EVs on Spiritomb? Like, what the heck.

DO NOT USE FOCUS SASH BLISSEY.

Tell me when a pokemon with a weakness to hail and sandstorm should carry a focus sash. That's excluding the bigger picture thogh which is that Blissey has THE highest base HP stat in the game and 135 Special Defense. Focus Sash with that? Don't even say it's for physical sweepers because Blissey should not be staying in on those ;/

Honestly a really messy team. And really two steel walls that do the same thing is pathetic.

 

[MarrilandOwningPeeps]

Focus Sash to endure a single Pokemon in the whole entire game is foolhardy...

I'll try not to do a standard here, and because I really prefer WishBliss, I'll copy Smogon here...]

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** <<< Destroy
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 104 SpA
Bold Nature (+DEF, -ATK)
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Wish. You may have I noticed I deleted Toxic and the SPD EVs off of her. Reasoning: They're both eww on Blissey...

 

[Anti]

Focus Sash to endure a single Pokemon in the whole entire game is foolhardy...

I'll try not to do a standard here, and because I really prefer WishBliss, I'll copy Smogon here...]

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** <<< Destroy
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 148 HP / 252 Def / 104 SpA
Bold Nature (+DEF, -ATK)
- Ice Beam
- Protect
- Seismic Toss
- Wish. You may have I noticed I deleted Toxic and the SPD EVs off of her. Reasoning: They're both eww on Blissey...

Toxic is really good on Blissey actually. It allows it to beat up stuff that can stall it out and will beat up Bulky Grounds especially, a huge plus.

Without Special Defense have fun with Porygon-Z!

 

[flamehaze94]

Without Special Defense have fun with Porygon-Z!

Good luck with any competant special sweeper!

Since nearly all sweepers that Blissey is supposed to wall have moves like Calm Mind or Scheme, and Seismic Toss can only take you so far

 

[Anti]

Good luck with any competant special sweeper!

Since nearly all sweepers that Blissey is supposed to wall have moves like Calm Mind or Scheme, and Seismic Toss can only take you so far

That's pretty much what I meant but Porygon-Z sounds better :P

honeslty though Blissey need special Defense and sure DOESN'T need Focus Sash. If a wall is carrying focus Sash then I will just officially collapse on the floor.

 

[sims796]

Hm. What's the new Blissey EV spread? Used to be Max def, HP. What is it now, huh? WHAT IS IT NOW?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Anti]

Hm. What's the new Blissey EV spread? Used to be Max def, HP. What is it now, huh? WHAT IS IT NOW?!?!?!?!?!

I believe it's Bold; 252 Def / 212 SDef / 40 SAtk

though I put the 40 SAtk EVs into HP since I don't run Flamethrower or Ice Beam.

 

[Squeenix]

so i should get rid of forrtress or skymory and add a physical sweeper and unscrewup blissey, and add tanks, yeah i just tried to make something... wierd, I tried not to use standard movesets

 

[El Gofre]

Yeah but the thing is, they are standard for a reason. Deliberately trying to get blissey down to 1 HP is really quite stupid. Im all for doing things differently, but most pokemon only fit into a single role and perform well. There's a reason you've never seen you never see an offensive spiritomb. Just seen you've revised the list so heres some points:

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Ability: Serene Grace
Evs: 252 def 252 hp 6 sp. atk
- Thunderwave/Aromatherapy
- Seismic toss
- Softboiled
- Ice Beam

Give up on the counter/sash thingy! It wont work!


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Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: Pressure
Evs: 252 hp 100Def/158SpDef
- Taunt
- Sucker Punch
- Pain Split
- Will-o-wisp

Taunt = pokemon trying to set up on me Ok
Sucker Punch = The exact amount of ev's i need to 1hko azelf it will OHKO you first with so few SpDef EVs
Painsplit =Duhh Fair enough
Will-o-wisp =Ohh you big bad physical sweepers and tanks coming in here to kill me, Now go crying to your mom because your burned!
No def=They kill you anyway

Mixed Tank/Wall? No. Mixed wall

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Forretress @ Shed shell
Ability: Sturdy
Nature: Relaxed
Evs: 252hp 200Def 56Att
- Toxic Spikes
- Gyro Ball
- Rapid Spin
- Explosion

Set pretty much standard (I HATE RAPID SPINNERS! they're a waste of space in your party)
No they aren't! Imaine having an entire poisined team from toxic spikes, amongst other things

Rapid spinner/Spiker/Physical Wall
If your intent on using this for offense, at least have more defense in it.
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Azelf @ Expert Belt
Nature: Timid
Ability: Levitate
Ev's: 36 hp 220 spd 252 sp.atk
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot

Nasty plot set, uses nasty plot once or twice and takes down a whole team, end of story!
Bit of an overstatment

Special Sweeper

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Skarmory@Shed Shell
Nature: Careful (I cant remember the standard)
Ability: Keen Eye
Ev's: 252hp 252Def 6Spd
-Brave Bird
-Roost
-Spikes
-whirlwind

The 252 speed is for whirlwinding the pokemon out as fast as you can,
Whirlwind always comes last
spiking with forrtress and spiking with skymory=0wnd
Until he switches in a flyer and screws you over
although i wish he was faster. Atleast it will outspeed things like gyrados
He doesnt need to, he's a wall.

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Neeed physical sweeper here, suggestions n31

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To be honest, this whole lot is in pretty bad shape. You're still trying to use all of your walls offensively. Its a lost cause, really, you've got yourself in the mindset that these crazy ideas are gonna work. On top of that, your entire team is walls. Its a load of defensive pokemon thinking they're sweepers, and azelf. I'd ditch spiritomb and either skramory or forry, and get a couple of pokemon who can actually attack well. If anything I'd stop trying to adapt this team and just start over entirely.

 

[Samson]

focus sash is such trash on blissey. if you want it to surprisingly survive hits from heracross and the bunch then give it chople berry so you can counter it back right in the poopah.