Rain dance team 0_o

[Kittyipawd]

Do you think this is a good team ?

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4Attack / 104 Speed / 220 HP / 180 DEF
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Stone edge
- Rain Dance

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 96 Attack / 4 Speed / 252 HP / 156 DEF
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP / 92 DEF / 164 SP.DEF
- Ice beam
- Heal Bell
- Roost
- Reflect / Ice Shard

Blissey
Trait: Serene Grace
Nature: Bold
EVs: 200 HP / 252 DEF / 58 SP.DEF (You can also throw some EVs into SP.ATK.)
- Softboiled
- Rain Dance
- Thunder
- Water Pulse

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Brave
EVs: 58 SPEED / 226 ATK / 226 SP.ATK
- Hydro Pump
- Double-Edge / Rain Dance
- Waterfall
- Draco Meteor

Electivire @ Life Orb
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Rash
EVs: 194 Attack / 176 Speed / 140 SP.ATT
- Thunder
- Rain Dance
- Earthquake / Ice Punch
- Cross chop

 

[BeachBoy]

Kingdra definitly wants rash... Brave just slows it down, even if its in the rain, stilll it hurts...

The set should be Surf, Waterfall, Draco meteor, and Rain dance, double edge is a no in my eyes, if you want to sweep longer...

Even though I love articuno, stealth rocks just hurts it way too much, I suggest filling something better that doesnt take 50% each time it comes in...

Gyaravire is pretty predictable these days, so be careful with that, personally Id go jolteon there, and give it sub, Bolt, HP (grass) [for swampert], and rain dance I guess... that seems to fit better, but again your choice...

That makes 4 rain dancers, I think actually take out cuno, but in Bronzong (standard) and give it Nosis, Reflect or light screen, rain dance, explosion/gyroball and you could lose gyara's rain and then give it tuant for full effectiveness...

that could fit nicely with the synergy....oh and blissey wants lefties.

Well hope I helped.

- Ryan

 

[luke]

Articuno needs Rapid Spin support or it won't be as effective.

 

[Random Guy]

Firstly, drop Articuno and Electivire. As your lead, use Jolteon.

Jolteon
Item: Damp Rock
Nature: Timid
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack, 4 HP
Attacks:
Thunder
Rain Dance
If possible HP Grass but if not go with Shadow Ball
Substitute/ Thunder Wave

You should replace Articuno with Starmie or Tentacruel as a Rapid Spinner. I'd choose Starmie because it has the ability to cause more damage.

Starmie
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Modest/ Timid
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: Whatever you feel like
Attacks:
Thunder/ Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Surf
Recover/ Ice Beam

Also for Kingdra's moveset, if you're trying to have a mixed sweeper, have this

Kingdra
Item: Damp Rock/ Expert Belt/ Life Orb
Nature: Lonely
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: Whatever you feel like
Attacks:
Rain Dance
Waterfall
Draco Meteor/ Dragon Pulse
Ice Beam

 

[Angelic Diablo]

Sweepers shouldn't have Rain Dance, Electivire and Gyarados have better things to do then make it rain, Blissey can help, but really shouldn't be doing any Rain Dancing herself when instead she can status the opponents with Thunder/Toxic.

 

[Maniac13]

i totaly agree with diablo!

 

[Ársa]

Do you think this is a good team ?

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4Attack / 104 Speed / 220 HP / 180 DEF
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Stone edge
- Rain Dance

Absolutely no Rain Dance on Gyara. Use Bronzong as a lead, and give it Damp Rock.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 96 Attack / 4 Speed / 252 HP / 156 DEF
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Stealth Rock
- Whirlwind

You're using a Flying Physical Wall in weather where Thunder hits 100%? Not to mention it increases one of the most common attacks, surf, stronger than before, this isn't a good choice. Forry on the other hand, doesn't have Elec. Weakness, and get's it's Fire Weakness down-graded.

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP / 92 DEF / 164 SP.DEF
- Ice beam
- Heal Bell
- Roost
- Reflect / Ice Shard



Blissey
Trait: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 200 HP / 252 DEF / 58 SP. ATK
- Softboiled
- Rain Dance
- Thunder
- Ice Beam

Don't use Rain Dance on Blissey, it doesn't help that you need it most for Sp. Walling, and if you need to Rain Dance, you're not going to switch in Blissey on a CB Pokemon are you?

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Lonely/Rash
EVs: 20 SPEED / 236 ATK / 252 SP.ATK
- Hydro Pump/HP Electric
- Rain Dance
- Waterfall
- Draco Meteor

Double-Edge + Life Orb = no more Kingdra... It needs Rain Dance to Outspeed Garchomp and the like. Consider HP Electric over Hydro Pump.

Electivire @ Expert Belt
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Mild
EVs: 194 Attack / 176 Speed / 140 SP.ATT
- Thunder
- Rain Dance
- Earthquake / Ice Punch
- Cross chop

Ok I suppose, most people will expect this in a Rain Team though...

Definately not the best Rain Dance team. Check Smogon for some more competetive teams/set-ups. Not to copy, but you will see the basic importance of Rain Dance Teams there.

Also, just as a side note... FLOATZEL! It PWNS in Rain. Bulk Up/Ice Fang/Crunch/Waterfall is awesome, and should be considered...


~T_S

 

[El Gofre]

i totaly agree with diablo!

Thats constructive advice there :|

Ive also noticed you have no dedicated sweepers. Sure you can dance up with gyara but you have nothing capable of attacking either defence really hard. Swap your two mixed for a physical and special sweeper IMO

 

[Kittyipawd]

Actually after much battling with my CBdos and Tuantridos I realized that skarmory usually follows so I will just DD then the same turn it whirlwinds I will Rain dance to let it come out to another pokemon and I know skarmory is like really electric weak but all pokemon in my team benefit from rain and electrivire takes care of electric weakness and I've only battled one person who out predicted garya/vire combo... And yeah if you can make Starmie replace someone whose type isn't flying I will abide :/

 

[Ársa]

Just remove Cuno. It doesn't help the team at all apart from Cleric, and Blissey does that better. Without a Rapid Spinner, you cannot hope for Cuno to be as effective. Roost helps with that, but faster Sp. Sweepers will be able to hit you before that.

@Anti: Please don't hate me... >_< :P

~T_S

 

[Anti]

Just remove Cuno. It doesn't help the team at all apart from Cleric, and Blissey does that better. Without a Rapid Spinner, you cannot hope for Cuno to be as effective. Roost helps with that, but faster Sp. Sweepers will be able to hit you before that.

@Anti: Please don't hate me... >_< :P

~T_S

Stupid PC logged me out when I tried to reply. Honestly that suggestion was fine but the others were kinda "what the?"-ish. Okay here's the post I had to copy and paste because the stupid "remember me" button never works.

Do you think this is a good team ?

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Trait: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4Attack / 104 Speed / 220 HP / 180 DEF
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Stone edge
- Taunt

Garbage EVs and rain Dance does not belong on Gyarados.

Skarmory @ Leftovers
Trait: Keen Eye
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
- Brave Bird
- Roost
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

Obviously some people don't listen when we say time and time again how terrible that spread is.

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP / 92 DEF / 164 SP.DEF
- Ice beam
- Heal Bell
- Roost
- Reflect

Okay Ice shard just made me laugh.

Blissey
Trait: Serene Grace
Nature: Bold
EVs: 200 HP / 252 DEF / 58 SP.DEF (You can also throw some EVs into SP.ATK.)
- Softboiled
- Rain Dance
- Thunder
- Water Pulse

Another set bordering on useless.

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Trait: Swift Swim
Nature: Brave
EVs: 58 SPEED / 226 ATK / 226 SP.ATK
- Hydro Pump
- Double-Edge / Rain Dance
- Waterfall
- Draco Meteor

Okay I'm giving up on this team.

Electivire @ Life Orb
Trait: Motor Drive
Nature: Rash
EVs: 194 Attack / 176 Speed / 140 SP.ATT
- Thunder
- Rain Dance
- Earthquake / Ice Punch
- Cross chop

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First off Loquacity, I'd like to correct you. If Articuno doesn't have rapid Spin support it's practically unusable :P

But now to this mess of a team. When I endorse Articuno all the time I do mention it needs support. You lack giving it the support it needs and you have made it useless.

Okay, how many freaking rain Dancers do you need.? Seriously, I'm in support of putting Kyogre on this team. It's THAT annoying and THAT stupid. I don't know what you're doing trying to get lucky with Serene Grace Blissey :/ Seriously, thunder Wave does what Thunder Does only it does 5% less damage and Water Pulse is just no. Confusion is a meh status to begin with, relying on luck is a HORRIBLE idea.

Also I'm getting really sick of seeing smogon's EV spread for Skarmory when it sucks.

sorry I'm in a bad mood...I don't mean to take this out on you but a few things have gotten me really ticked off today so please excuse my anger :(

And seriously people BRONZONG DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ON EVERY SINGLE FREAKING RAIN DANCE TEAM. I hope I made that clear enough.

Also T_S your logic makes no sense with skarmory. Nobody even uses Thunder and skarmory has no business staying in on anything that does. you also leave out that Rain Dance makes fire blast from the likes of Garchomp and Cbmence totally useless.

Also nobody is stupid enough to switch Blissey in on a CB pokemon. Also you might not have noticed but almost everything on the freaking team has Rain Dance. I actually started bursting out laughing (for real) when I saw that suggestion. Seriously the entire team BUT Kingdra sets up the Rain, redundancy alert...Kingdra should not be using Rain Dance when 4 other pokmeon are. Seriously.

Also I love how you say people will expect Vire in a Rain dance team yet you say "Needs more Bronzong pl0x." Hate to break it to you, but Bronzong is even more common on Rain Dance teams.

Seriously you only need 2 Rain Dancers or so, not 4. Use the standard blissey, seriously; that one is just no. You really have no walling besides Skarmbliss (Articuno doesn't count without a spinnr) and trust me, skarmbliss will not be enough to wall things this gen. Not even close.

also every single pokemon doesn't have to fit in with the theme. You'll want stuff like Kingdra but at the same time you still want to have a balanced team.



Okay I'm going to apologize in advance once more for my terrible mood, but at the same time common sense errors are really annoying >.> honestly I'm sorry.

 

[Ársa]

Stupid PC logged me out when I tried to reply. Honestly that suggestion was fine but the others were kinda "what the?"-ish. Okay here's the post I had to copy and paste because the stupid "remember me" button never works.



First off Loquacity, I'd like to correct you. If Articuno doesn't have rapid Spin support it's practically unusable :P

But now to this mess of a team. When I endorse Articuno all the time I do mention it needs support. You lack giving it the support it needs and you have made it useless.

Okay, how many freaking rain Dancers do you need.? Seriously, I'm in support of putting Kyogre on this team. It's THAT annoying and THAT stupid. I don't know what you're doing trying to get lucky with Serene Grace Blissey :/ Seriously, thunder Wave does what Thunder Does only it does 5% less damage and Water Pulse is just no. Confusion is a meh status to begin with, relying on luck is a HORRIBLE idea.

Also I'm getting really sick of seeing smogon's EV spread for Skarmory when it sucks.

sorry I'm in a bad mood...I don't mean to take this out on you but a few things have gotten me really ticked off today so please excuse my anger :(

And seriously people BRONZONG DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ON EVERY SINGLE FREAKING RAIN DANCE TEAM. I hope I made that clear enough.

Also T_S your logic makes no sense with skarmory. Nobody even uses Thunder and skarmory has no business staying in on anything that does. you also leave out that Rain Dance makes fire blast from the likes of Garchomp and Cbmence totally useless.

Also nobody is stupid enough to switch Blissey in on a CB pokemon. Also you might not have noticed but almost everything on the freaking team has Rain Dance. I actually started bursting out laughing (for real) when I saw that suggestion. Seriously the entire team BUT Kingdra sets up the Rain, redundancy alert...Kingdra should not be using Rain Dance when 4 other pokmeon are. Seriously.

Also I love how you say people will expect Vire in a Rain dance team yet you say "Needs more Bronzong pl0x." Hate to break it to you, but Bronzong is even more common on Rain Dance teams.

Seriously you only need 2 Rain Dancers or so, not 4. Use the standard blissey, seriously; that one is just no. You really have no walling besides Skarmbliss (Articuno doesn't count without a spinnr) and trust me, skarmbliss will not be enough to wall things this gen. Not even close.

also every single pokemon doesn't have to fit in with the theme. You'll want stuff like Kingdra but at the same time you still want to have a balanced team.



Okay I'm going to apologize in advance once more for my terrible mood, but at the same time common sense errors are really annoying >.> honestly I'm sorry.

You have too much built up stress me thinks...

Kingdra should run Rain Dance, Gyara, Blissey, and Electivire shouldn't. I completely missed the Rain Dance on Electivire, I was tired at the time. (I must have been, I missed 3/4 of his team, and left attacks that shouldn't be there, I can see why you are angry after seeing that post, so am I x_X) I put Bronzong there because It Rain Dances better than Gyara and anything else does. He is counting on switching in Vire on Electric attacks, and 3/4 of the Rain Dance teams I see have Electivire for that whole reason. You are really relying on your opponent not having any idea on the Gyara/Vire set-up. Bronzong is the best lead apart from Kyogre in my opinion for Rain Dance. Kingdra needs Rain Dance, I've said it once, I'll say it again.

You miss understand my post. My point was, if all his other Rain Dance pokemon were dead, and all he had was Blissey, would he really switch it in on a CB pokemon to Rain Dance? Put this way, it is a redundent move, that is what I was trying to show.

God, you act like you know everything and anything else others say is non-negotiable...

:(

~T_S

 

[Kittyipawd]

Sorry it just mixaoe or anything fire type or weather basically pissis me off andi was just trying to make my team more weather based and ruining mixape .....

Yeah never used a weather team so im completly open for suggestions but you dont need to "...." me​

 

[Anti]

You have too much built up stress me thinks...

don't assume things about my personal life.

Kingdra should run Rain Dance,

not on a Rain Dance team when it can get support to set it up. It's juyst wasting a moveslot.

Gyara, Blissey, and Electivire shouldn't.

That's why you left Rain Dance on Blissey :/

I completely missed the Rain Dance on Electivire, I was tired at the time. (I must have been, I missed 3/4 of his team, and left attacks that shouldn't be there, I can see why you are angry after seeing that post, so am I x_X)

Again don't assume why I'm angry.

I put Bronzong there because It Rain Dances better than Gyara and anything else does.

Okay that bold is seriously going to get me to where I'll be on Netbattle waiting for you :/

Also that makes no sense. You didn't even give a set or reasons to use it. Honestly Bronzong is an overrated Rain Dancer that is very predictable.

He is counting on switching in Vire on Electric attacks, and 3/4 of the Rain Dance teams I see have Electivire for that whole reason.

I know that.

You are really relying on your opponent not having any idea on the Gyara/Vire set-up.

No, you're relying on outpredicting them. You see of course it's obvious, but a good player will use that to his/her advantage.

Bronzong is the best lead apart from Kyogre in my opinion for Rain Dance.

No it isn't. It can set up the rain but it's also a set-up fodder! Hooray!

Kingdra needs Rain Dance, I've said it once, I'll say it again.

With nothing to back up your argument as usual.

You miss understand my post. My point was, if all his other Rain Dance pokemon were dead,

if if if if if if if...seriously all the hypothetical situations are totally worthless.

and all he had was Blissey, would he really switch it in on a CB pokemon to Rain Dance?

Um obviously not, why are you aksing anybody this?

Put this way, it is a redundent move, that is what I was trying to show.

Yet you put rain Dance on Kingdra.

Kingdra relies on its teammates to set it up. It needs all of its moveslots to actually be good.

God, you act like you know everything and anything else others say is non-negotiable...

The ultimate flame bait

Hint: I might seem like an arrogant little child but nobody fro mPC has EVER beaten me on Netbattle (including a few of the old raters I've battled and defeated) and give some of the most elaborate rates here. at least I can back up every word that comes out of my mouth.

Also that's the pot calling the kettle black.

~T_S

Give me one good reason to put Rain Dance on Kingdra when it has an entire team to support it.

 

[luke]

Woo~~~ Closing this thread. Can you guess why?