Random Moveset for a Porygon-Z.

So you pretty much run the standard with a garbage electric move over a 100% Accuracy one. Seriously, inform me on this one. What pokemon that's weak to electric CAN'T you OHKO Specs Thunderbolt that you can KO with Zap Cannon/Thunder?

Tri-Attack will hit pretty much anything neutral to Thunder/Zap Cannon harder. Even stuff if it gets resisted, Tri-Attack will have 90 Base Power, with 100 Accuracy (80*1.5*1.5/2=90) A lot better than 100 BP with 50 Accuracy/120 with 70.
 
I would really just use Thunderbolt over Zap Cannon. Even if you are going against the standard, you will miss half the time.
 
Towlie said:
So you pretty much run the standard with a garbage electric move over a 100% Accuracy one. Seriously, inform me on this one. What pokemon that's weak to electric CAN'T you OHKO Specs Thunderbolt that you can KO with Zap Cannon/Thunder?

Tri-Attack will hit pretty much anything neutral to Thunder/Zap Cannon harder. Even stuff if it gets resisted, Tri-Attack will have 90 Base Power, with 100 Accuracy (80*1.5*1.5/2=90) A lot better than 100 BP with 50 Accuracy/120 with 70.
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So, you did the caculations, eh? That's what I really needed. Thanks... I'll change it to the Standard. Expect a new Set. (Except running only the useful Standards, without the "Garbage.") I will edit the first post to change Zap Cannon, and the set completely around..
 
Several problems with the set. You nasty plot and then realise you can't outspeed anything :/ You need sub with nasty plot IMO, or bulk to survive hits. But I'd run timid since you are going to run into serious problems with that speed.

But without STAB, you totally defeat the purpose of adaptability. Really, the thing needs a STAB, that's its greatest strangth :/
 
Loquacity said:
Good job on a "powerful" Porygon-Z Waker. One fix though: Download doesn't take the opponent's stat changes for its own. What it does is adjust it's Special Attack or Attack based on the Pokemon's Defenses. If the opponent has a weaker Defense, it will increase Porygon-Z's Attack. And vice versa for Special Defense / Special Attack.
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I can't tell if the first sentence is sarcasm or not. Thanks for letting me know how Download works, though. This proves Download and Shadow Ball work together, so it can work.

I posted the standard because I assume that not everybody knows what it is, so people who post here will at least know what you're talking about when you say "standard", Itachi 2007.
 
Adaptability cancels out STAB, i think.
 
darkknight316 said:
Well, yeah, it basically boosts STAB OR cancels out STAB (ironically, they both make sense)
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Well, Nintendo's guide for Diamond and Pearl states that Adaptability "doubles" the move used by a Pokémon of the same type. So it doesn't cancel the STAB. I think it turns the x1.5 for STAB into a x2.
 
Waker of Chaos said:
Well, Nintendo's guide for Diamond and Pearl states that Adaptability "doubles" the move used by a Pokémon of the same type. So it doesn't cancel the STAB. I think it turns the x1.5 for STAB into a x2.
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Well, I read somewhere that Adaptability is 2x, while STAB is 1.5x. However, when Adaptability is in effect, there is no STAB. So the total boost is 2x.
 
darkknight316 said:
Well, I read somewhere that Adaptability is 2x, while STAB is 1.5x. However, when Adaptability is in effect, there is no STAB. So the total boost is 2x.
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Like I said, I think Adaptability boosts the STAB from x1.5 to x2. So it doesn't cancel the STAB, it makes the STAB more powerful.
 
Waker of Chaos said:
Like I said, I think Adaptability boosts the STAB from x1.5 to x2. So it doesn't cancel the STAB, it makes the STAB more powerful.
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Let's stop arguing, it's really the same thing.
 
darkknight316 said:
Let's stop arguing, it's really the same thing.
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Not really. Canceling something means that there's nothing there to replace it; boosting means an increase, obviously. You're 10, so I wouldn't expect you to know that (no offense).

But yes, let's end this argument.
 
Waker of Chaos said:
Not really. Canceling something means that there's nothing there to replace it; boosting means an increase, obviously. You're 10, so I wouldn't expect you to know that (no offense).

But yes, let's end this argument.
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No offense taken. But I can tell you this much: I probably know more about Pokemon than your average 10-year old.
 
darkknight316 said:
No offense taken. But I can tell you this much: I probably know more about Pokemon than your average 10-year old.
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Because your average 10-year old doesn't bother doing his/her research, I'll bet. :)
 
darkknight, no one cares about your knowledge base. ^.^; And I wasn't being sarcastic Waker. I was seriously complimenting you. Adaptability works to just boost the STAB. It does nothing to "remove STAB." If you're a Normal-type, you only get STAB on Normal-type attacks. With Adaptability, that damage amount is increased. So you can't remove STAB the Pokemon didn't have already.
 
Loquacity said:
darkknight, no one cares about your knowledge base. ^.^; And I wasn't being sarcastic Waker. I was seriously complimenting you. Adaptability works to just boost the STAB. It does nothing to "remove STAB." If you're a Normal-type, you only get STAB on Normal-type attacks. With Adaptability, that damage amount is increased. So you can't remove STAB the Pokemon didn't have already.
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Yeah, I know, but no one cares about my age either, so Waker Of Chaos didn't have to point that out.

Waker of Chaos said:
Because your average 10-year old doesn't bother doing his/her research, I'll bet. :)
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Ding ding ding! You win the lottery! ^_^
 
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