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Rapid Spins are lol [ OU RMT ]

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    Well , I just decided to create a new team which is balanced in defensive and offensive , the team is kinda DD Gyara Weak if my Phazer went down , anyways heres my Team :

    [PokeCommunity.com] Rapid Spins are lol [ OU RMT ]

    Smeargle @ Focus Sash
    Nature : Jolly
    Trait : Own Tempo
    EVs : 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 HP
    -Spikes
    -Spore
    -Endeavor
    -ExtremeSpeed

    Smeargle is my Spiker Lead , and kinda acts like an Anti-Lead since it is possible for him to destroys some leads with Endeavor + ExtremeSpeed , it can also throw 3 layers of spikes when the opposing slow lead is asleep , its kinda ruined by Hippowdon's Sandstream , but its a good aid for me .

    [PokeCommunity.com] Rapid Spins are lol [ OU RMT ]

    Infernape @ Choice Scarf
    Nature : Naive
    Trait : Blaze
    EVs : 64 Atk / 252 SpA / 192 Spe
    -Close Combat
    -Flamethrower
    -U-turn
    -Hidden Power Ice

    ScarfApe is my Revenge Killer , with 192 Spe EV and Choice Scarf , ScarfApe's Speed will hit 493 , enough to outspeed many Scarfed threats that think they can lol at ScarfApe . Close Combat is its Main STAB move , Flamethrower is another STAB to take out Scizor , U-turn for Scouting , Hidden Power Ice to lol at Mence , I honestly want to put Grass knot over Hidden Power Ice to hit Swampert , but I just need a help from here ...

    [PokeCommunity.com] Rapid Spins are lol [ OU RMT ]

    Rotom-h @ Leftovers
    Nature : Bold
    Trait : Levitate
    EVs : 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 Spe
    -Thunderbolt
    -Shadow Ball
    -Overheat
    -Will-O-Whisp

    Rotom-h is what makes Rapid Spins Classified as " lol " , it can block them so the layers of Spikes from Smeargle and SR from Swampert wont be removed , it can also Wall CBScizor and lol at it with Overheat , Will-O-Whisp to cripple Physical sweepers. Thunderbolt and Shadow Ball are its Dual STAB moves

    [PokeCommunity.com] Rapid Spins are lol [ OU RMT ]

    Lucario @ Choice Specs
    Nature : Timid
    Trait : Inner Focus
    EVs : 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 6 HP
    -Aura Sphere
    -Shadow Ball
    -Hidden Power Ice
    -Vacuum Wave

    No one expects to see Lucario as a special sweeper , its a disgrace to look down on SpecsLuke , he lols at Physical walls for not expecting it to be SpecsLuke , Aura Sphere is its Deadly move at it deals lots of OHKOs to many threats , Shadow Ball to hit Ghosts and Psychic , Hidden Power Ice with Timid is great to lol at Mence and Gliscor , Vacuum Wave to turn this beast into a Revenge Killer .

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    Scizor @ Leftovers
    Nature : Adamant
    Trait : Technician
    EVs : 200 HP / 252 Atk / 56 Spe
    -Swords Dance
    -Bullet Punch
    -Brick Break / Double Hit
    -Roost

    Bulky SD Scizor is rather nice , functions well as a late game sweeper , with its Bulk , it can get 2 SDs and pull a sweep with Bullet Punch , Roost to restore HP , Brick Break to hit Heatran that Switches in , But I feel that Double hit would be better as it hits Bulky waters harder , What do you think ?

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    Swampert @ Leftovers
    Nature : Relaxed
    Trait : Torrent
    EVs : 252 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Beam
    -Roar
    -Stealth Rock

    Mixpert is wow , it Roars at DD mence and DD Gyara , combined with SR damages the next foe coming out , it can also take on CB Scizor's Bullet Punch and Wall SpecsJolt , Earthquake is its Powerful STAB move , Ice Beam to lol at mence

    I guess thats my team , Hope you like it ^^

    Problems :

    I got few problems , I got many Ice type moves users , So should I Give Grass Knot to ScarfApe so it can take on Swampert ?

    another problem is Scizor being Walled by DD Gyara , Should I give it Double Hit to deal with Gyara ?​
     
    Fire Blast or Overheat are much better options on ScarfApe than Flamethrower, as you'll probably need the extra power and you'll be switching him in and out a lot anyway. You can replace HP Ice with Grass Knot if you're really worried about Swampert.
     
    Thanks for the help , Im thinking about Overheat , as it acts like Draco Meteor .

    still need the help with Scizor about giving Double Hit over Brick Break to hit Gyara ?
     
    Thanks for the help , Im thinking about Overheat , as it acts like Draco Meteor .

    still need the help with Scizor about giving Double Hit over Brick Break to hit Gyara ?

    Double Hit is a bad idea. You're basically destroying the effectiveness of the moveset to sort of-ish hit Gyarados. Return is a much better option anyway due to reliability, but still, bad idea. You know your coverage sucks when Aggron walls you.

    Overheat doesn't hit like DM at all, it's basically to ensure kills to make Infernape a not useless revenge killer. You need to put in Overheat since Flamethrower might as well be Ember, but you should know that it won't do any real damage to things that can take hits.

    Anyway, Rotom is basically your only defense against a lot of stuff, and it lacks recovery, so it's going to die quickly. Even Scizor's U-Turns are going to make it a liability after switching in once or twice, so it probably wants RestTalk or Wish support. There is always ScarfApe, but he's weak and easy to kill and/or set up on.

    I'm disappointed with your lack of anything to take advantage of Spikes/Stealth Rock. Given Rotom's lack of longevity and Pursuit weakness (especially after an Overheat), your spin blocker will be easy to eliminate early. To avoid stall teams making a fool of your team (and they currently do), I would invest in things with more offense. You spend so much time supporting and revenge killing that your team's ability to sweep is lackluster at best. SpecsLuke is easy to switch around and wear down, and Scarf Magnezone can wipe out your entire sweeping core. Scizor lacks power, and that would be okay on a bulky offense team, but every single Pokemon on your team with the exception of Scizor is a time bomb waiting to explode (run out of health), and with that time limit to carry out a sweep and your team's total inability to stall, you need to sweep fast.

    To fix your problems, I would first put Stealth Rock on Smeargle and replace Swampert. Endeavor and Extremespeed are useful, but the goals you're trying to accomplish with those moves are painfully short-sighted when you could be using Stealth Rock (which helps the entire battle) and freeing up Swampert's team slot. Next, I would Scarf Rotom (please, give it HP EVs so it doesn't die to Tackle) and get rid of ScarfApe. This will give you Lucario and Gyarados insurance, and it isn't total stall bait since Spikes/Toxic Spikes don't affect it, and it can basically eliminate one member of the opposing stall team with Trick. Infernape's only real advantage is U-Turn, which isn't much of an advantage really.

    With that out of the way, I would support your offensive core next or maybe even change it a bit to make Scizor more threatening. Either way, I would use the slots freed up by the departures of Swampert and Infernape to put in some more sweepers. I would put in something else for late game like Gyarados (which also helps with Scizor), and then something to weaken the defensive core of the opponent like a MixApe or CBMence. You really have a lot of options, so I'll leave it up to you. The important thing is that you get rid of unnecessary stuff like Infernape and Swampert.
     
    changing ScarfApe to Mixape , and Standard Rotom-h to ScarfRotom-h , replacing Swampert with DDGyara . how does that sounds ?

    and does 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe with Timid Nature is good for ScarfRotom ?
     
    and does 80 HP / 252 SpA / 176 Spe with Timid Nature is good for ScarfRotom ?
    40 HP / 252 SpA / 216 Speed w/ Timid, it outruns once DD'd Jolly Gyara (use 36 HP / 252 SpA / 220 Speed if you are using HP Fighting). You can also use 68 HP / 252 SpA / 188 Speed w/ Timid, allows Rotom-A to outrun Adamant Lucario after you Tricked your Scarf (64 HP / 252 SpA / 192 Speed for HP Fighting).
     
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