Rate/Fix my terrible team >_>

Shiraishi

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    Swampert@Leftovers
    Adamant
    252 HP/252 Attack(not sure about this)6 Sp def
    Waterfall
    EQ
    Avalanche or Stone Edge ._.
    Rest

    Salamance@I have no idea..
    Adamant(I love my adamant pokemon eh?)
    252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
    Dragon Claw
    Thunder Fang
    Dragon Dance
    EQ

    Starmie@Life Orb(My much needed bolt-beamer)
    ..The usual sweeper EVs >_>
    Timid
    Surf
    T-bolt
    Ice beam
    Psychic/Recover

    Electvire@Focus Sash(76 def at lvl 50)
    Lonely
    Same as Mence`s
    Thunder Punch
    Ice punch
    Fire punch
    Brick Break/Low kick

    Togekiss@I have no idea
    Modest?
    Help with EVs :D
    Air Slash(FLINCH HAX, WHOO)
    Aura Sphere
    Thunder Wave
    Roost
     
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    If you want sweepers, I strongly suggest that you use a pokémon like Tyranitar, Metagross, Dragonite, Electivire (trust me, this one is a juggernaut when it comes to battling), and so on. The move sets and items are all your say because I'm bad at suggesting move sets before people start yelling at me :<.

    Anyways, just wait for someone to post a possible move set
     
    Swampert@Choice Band
    Adamant
    252 HP/252 Attack /6 Sp def
    Waterfall
    Earthquake
    Avalanche
    Hammer Arm

    Starmie@Choice Specs
    252 Sp. Atk , 252 Spd , 6 Hp
    Modest
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Ice beam
    Grass Knot

    Togekiss@Leftovers
    Calm
    252 Hp, 240 Def, 16 Sp. Def
    Air Slash
    Aura Sphere
    Thunder Wave
    Roost
     
    Exokriz said:
    Starmie@Choice Specs
    252 Sp. Atk , 252 Spd , 6 Hp
    Modest
    Surf
    Thunderbolt
    Ice beam
    Grass Knot
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    Why Grass Knot over Psychic? Thunderbolt takes care of water types whilst Ice Beam and Surf deal with ground types. Is it just for additional power against water/ground dual types like Swampert, because that's the only hole I see here - and not a hole that's a weakness of Starmie? I'm sure I'm missing something here...
     
    Leafeon has higher base defenses than Tangrowth, so Leafeon would be a better way to go...
     
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    Royal Freshness said:
    Leafeon has higher base defenses than Tangrowth, so Leafeon would be a better way to go...
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    No way! HP is just as important as Defense in being a good physical wall. If only Defense mattered, then you could say that Shuckle is the best physical wall in the world (which is clearly NOT true).

    Tangrowth is a much better wall than Leafeon.

    Anyways, why on earth are you turning your Swampert into a physical attacker? Swampert has one job and that is being a Bulky Water.
    Relaxed/Impish with near max Defense Evs is the way to go.

    Brick Break is inferior to Cross Chop. 100 Power and a high critical hit chance with 80% accuracy is way better than having 100% accuracy.
    There's no real point in using Fire Punch. Grass types are handled by Ice Punch and Steel types by Cross Chop. The only Bug type in OU that's not weak to Ice or Electric is Heracross, who won't be OHKOed with Fire Punch. Besides, Electivire can already defeat Heracross with 2 Thunderpunches anyways.

    Since you have a Lonely nature, use Thunderbolt. Tbolt will do more damage than TPunch to Pokemon like Skarmory and Weezing, who are heavily invested in Defense EVs but usually have none in Sp Defense.

    Expert Belt/Life Orb are way better items than Focus Sash. Electivire has no real use for the Sash. It has no stat-boosting move to set up while the opponent hits you, and doesn't have Counter, Reversal, Endeavor, or Flail so there's no point in having Electivire take a hit.

    For Salamence, Fire Blast is better than Thunder Fang (and Fire Fang). Despite your Adamant Nature, Salamence's Sp. Attack is still high. And the only time you'll be using Fire Blast is against physical walls like Skarmory, Weezing, and Forretress who I've mentioned invest heavily in Defense and have almost none in Special Defense.

    Give it a Leftovers.

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    Royal Freshness said:
    Leafeon has higher base defenses than Tangrowth, so Leafeon would be a better way to go...
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    Leafeon sucks, Tangrowth can serve as a mixed sweeper/tank/annoyer. Wow. And with the Chlorophyll, Tangrowth is an amazing sweeper.

    Swampert clearly needs Curse.

    As for Togekiss vs. Skarmory, Aura Sphere is already a good enought counter, even better with the Hustle ability, of course, not as popular as Para-Flincher.

    Electivire doesn't need Fire Punch.
     
    yay! suggestions finally! XD As for my electivire, I gave it focus sash because of its piss-poor defense due to its lonely nature..It cannot survive Garchomps. While I was getting my held items, the guy at Route 221 gave me focus sash instead of expert belt first. My first wi-fi battle tower match: Garchomp used EQ! Electivire hung on using focus sash! Electivire used ice punch! Garchomp fainted.

    I shall re-breed for cross chop i guess :/ 25% for a female yay... Thunder Fang saved my arse plenty of times, but ur right..Ppl will be immediately sending out fortresses and skars as soon as I bring out mence =.=; Btw..I would much appreciate a tangrowth moveset/EVs/held items suggestion :D..same with togekiss
     
    My Tangrowth

    Tangrowth@Heat Rock
    Trait: Chlorophyll
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SP. ATK/ 252 SP. DEF/4 SPEED or HP

    Solarbeam
    Sunnyday
    Growth/Amnesia
    Focusblast
     
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    Ick, that's a horrible Tangrowth set!

    Growth won't do crap. Any move that boosts a single stat only one stage is just a big waste of time.
    Amnesia won't help. Tangrowth's Sp. Defense sinve it's already so low anyways. Plus, like I said in another thread, you almost never want to use pure defense boosters like Iron Defense or Amnesia. There's no point to it.

    If you want a REAL Tangrowth set, try these:

    Tangrowth @Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature
    -Power Whip
    -Leech Seed
    -Sleep Powder
    -Knock Off

    One of the most recommended Tangrowth sets. This guy can survive so many physical hits, even supereffective ones. Plus, it's got an array of annoying support moves to help you out. Leech Seed and Sleep Powder are very annoying together and with Knock Off, you can ruin so many Pokemon that rely on their item.

    Tangrowth @Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spd
    Adamant Nature
    -Power Whip
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Slide
    -Swords Dance

    Tangrowth has a nice physical movepool and can be a formidable sweeper. Power Whip is your key attack of course. Earthquake and Rock Slide provide coverage against Pokemon that are resistant to Grass - Flying, Fire, and Steel types.

    Tangrowth @Heat Rock/Lum Berry
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    Ability: Chlorophyll
    -Solarbeam
    -Hidden Power [Fire]
    -Sunny Day
    -Sleep Powder

    This revolves around Tangrowth's Chlorophyll ability. It just like any other Sunny Day sets you may have seen. HP Fire gets a boost in the Sun and helps against Steel and enemy Grass types. Sleep Powder knocks out anything else that tries to counter you.

    Togekiss @Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 172 SAtk / 84 SDef
    Modest Nature
    Ability: Serene Grace
    -Air Slash
    -Thunder Wave
    -Aura Sphere
    -Wish/Roost

    Paraflinch Togekiss is very annoying. It can drive you mad by paralyzing your Pokemon, flinching them 60% of the time with a Serene Grace boosted Air Slash, and simply recovering off any damage when it gets hit.

    Togekiss @Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SDef
    Calm Nature
    Ability: Serene Grace
    -Air Slash
    -Wish/Roost
    -Nasty Plot
    -Baton Pass

    Togekiss is one of those few Pokemon that learns both Nasty Plot and Baton Pass. The special sweepers on your team will love you when you pass them a doubled Sp. Attack boost.

    Togekiss @Choice Specs/Choice Scarf
    EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature
    Ability: Serene Grace
    -Tri-Attack
    -Air Slash
    -Aura Sphere
    -Grass Knot

    Like any Pokemon with good Sp. Attack and a diverse special movepool, Togekiss works great as a Choice sweeper. This gives Togekiss an oppurtunity to use Tri-Attack and Grass Knot helps against hefty opponents that can be harder to take down, like Rhyperior or Milotic.


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