Rate My New Team

[Jimmyray]

Absol@Focus Sash
Adamant Nature (+Atk - Sp.Atk)
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Super Luck
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
X Scissor
Psycho Cut

Clefable@Leftovers
Calm Nature (+Sp.Def -Atk)
252 Sp.Defense 252 HP 6 Def
Magic Guard
Thunder Wave
Encore
Amnesia
Thunderbolt/Flamethrowe/Ice Beam

Lucario@Focus Sash
Adamant Nature (+Atk -Sp.Atk)
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Steadfast
Swords Dance
Extreemspeed
Close Combat
Crunch

Porygon-Z@Expert Belt
Modest (+Sp.Atk -Atk)
252 Sp.Atk 252 Speed 6 HP
Download
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Psychic << Saved me sooo many times
Dark Pulse

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature (+Def -Sp.Atk)
252 Def 124 Attack 136 HP
Sturdy
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stone Edge
Rapid Spin

Froslass@Petaya Berry
Timid Nature (+Spd -Atk)
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack 6 HP
Snow Cloak
Substitute
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond

 

[Dark Azelf]

Absol@Focus Sash
Adamant Nature (+Atk - Sp.Atk)
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Super Luck
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
Stone Edge
Psycho Cut


Stone Edge > X-Scissor or Salamence and Gyarados go lol

Clefable@Leftovers
Calm Nature (+Sp.Def -Atk)
252 Sp.Defense 252 HP 6 Sp.Def
Magic Guard
Calm mind
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Softboiled

Ewwww, that set accomplished nothing.

This is "Blissey with weight loss" and is a great sp.wall.



Lucario@Choice Band / Life Orb
Adamant Nature (+Atk -Sp.Atk)
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Steadfast
Blaze Kick / Stone Edge
Extreemspeed
Close Combat
Crunch

CB lucario = win, Blaze Kick or stone edge is better and this set poses more of an immediate threat that the swords dancer due to it not having to set up. Life Orb is also an option if you dont want a choice item. Its a great revenge killer.

Porygon-Z@Choice Scarf
Modest (+Sp.Atk -Atk)
252 Sp.Atk 252 Speed 6 HP
Download
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Tri attack
Dark Pulse

WTF is psychic doing on this with no tri attack? This wants scarf or you be slow.

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature (+Def -Sp.Atk)
252 Def / 252 HP / 6 ATT
Sturdy
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stealth Rock / Knock Off / Rest
Rapid Spin

Needs more HP and to be more defensive as this is your only physical wall. It NEEDS Sr or Knock off, use stone edge >> Ice Shard if you wish, it deals with gyarados and thats about it. Ice SHard is better though. Hell id even go with rest, it needs it as this is your only phys wall.

Froslass@Petaya Berry
Timid Nature (+Spd -Atk)
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack 6 HP
Snow Cloak
Substitute
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond

I guess, T-Bolt can go here somewhere for better coverage if you desire.

Changes and comments are in bold.

Specs Mence does a really big number on you as does heatran.

 

[Jimmyray]

Absol@Focus Sash
Adamant Nature (+Atk - Sp.Atk)
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Super Luck
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch
Stone Edge
Psycho Cut


Stone Edge > X-Scissor or Salamence and Gyarados go lol

Clefable@Leftovers
Calm Nature (+Sp.Def -Atk)
252 Sp.Defense 252 HP 6 Sp.Def
Magic Guard
Calm mind
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Softboiled

Ewwww, that set accomplished nothing.

This is "Blissey with weight loss" and is a great sp.wall.



Lucario@Choice Band / Life Orb
Adamant Nature (+Atk -Sp.Atk)
252 Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Steadfast
Blaze Kick / Stone Edge
Extreemspeed
Close Combat
Crunch

CB lucario = win, Blaze Kick or stone edge is better and this set poses more of an immediate threat that the swords dancer due to it not having to set up. Life Orb is also an option if you dont want a choice item. Its a great revenge killer.

Porygon-Z@Choice Scarf
Modest (+Sp.Atk -Atk)
252 Sp.Atk 252 Speed 6 HP
Download
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Tri attack
Dark Pulse

WTF is psychic doing on this with no tri attack? This wants scarf or you be slow.

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish Nature (+Def -Sp.Atk)
252 Def / 252 HP / 6 ATT
Sturdy
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Stealth Rock / Knock Off / Rest
Rapid Spin

Needs more HP and to be more defensive as this is your only physical wall. It NEEDS Sr or Knock off, use stone edge >> Ice Shard if you wish, it deals with gyarados and thats about it. Ice SHard is better though. Hell id even go with rest, it needs it as this is your only phys wall.

Froslass@Petaya Berry
Timid Nature (+Spd -Atk)
252 Speed 252 Sp.Attack 6 HP
Snow Cloak
Substitute
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Destiny Bond

I guess, T-Bolt can go here somewhere for better coverage if you desire.

Changes and comments are in bold.

Specs Mence does a really big number on you as does heatran.

Thanks for all that =D TM's will be an issue though =S

 

[El Gofre]

Erm, cleables EVs say SpDef twice :)
Im with you on the psychic idea, it nails mixapes and the like. But you still need scarf

 

[Anti]

That Pory Z is really messed up. I don't know what expert belt is doing on that thing to be honest. Choice Specs or Scarf (or life orb if chocie items aren't your thing) would really be a lot more beneficial.

Also, replace psychic or dark pulse with Tri Attack...and give it adaptability. Download never really works, and double STAB has the same effect as a +SAtk download. The only instance I can see psychic really helping is against fighters. So if you keep it over dark pulse, you'll want to Scarf your Pory Z or risk faster fighters like Infernape or scarfed fighters like Machamp to run you over. If you don't scarf it, I'd really just get rid of psychic (not to mention double STAB almost does as much as a supereffective psychic attack...)

 

[Azonic]

A pretty big Infernape weakness. A pretty big Fighting weakness to start with.

PorygonZ always holds Scarf. I have proof in battle logs to back it up :x

 

[Anti]

A pretty big Infernape weakness. A pretty big Fighting weakness to start with.

PorygonZ always holds Scarf. I have proof in battle logs to back it up :x

Specs is also very viable, and nasty plot Pory Z is very good as well. I actually played a Pory Z I thought was scarfed and that BURNT me.

But yeah, since Nape pulls an infeRAPE on this team, scarf it...like Penguin said.

 

[flamehaze94]

lol'd at Infernape weak. which is a horrible team rate. Every team is weak to Ape, there are only a couple proficient counters: Cresselia, Starmie, Tentacruel, Gyarados, etc., but then again there is no cookie-cutter counter, Ape has a way to overcome all of them. So don't go say things like Ape weak when there is no counters.

252HP / 36Atk / 176Def / 44Spd is best for Donphan

Mkae Luke a BulkyDancer.

Tyraniboah weak.

 

[Anti]

While what you said about infernape is true, most teams can sacrifice something and then switch in something like Alakazam to immediately threaten it. Nape is faster than everything on this team. Basically, this team has a TERRIBLE infernape weak because not only can nothing switch into it, but nothing is faster than it and all get killed. That's why a scarfed Pory Z would make sense, so you can stop it in some way shape or form, even if it isn't a counter.

Also, Dragon/Flying pokemon have their way with Mixape (which is who I've been referring to the whole time since it's the only Nape I ever really see).

I really disagree that an infernape weak is a "terrible team rate." Sure it's tough to counter, but most teams can at least kill it after one pokemon goes down :/ Seriously, Gyarados has only a few solid counters, but people still list that weak all the time and I don't blame them. I don't really understand the whole idea of what you said really. I could name several pokemon that fall in the same category as Nape. A weak is a weak, regardless of how common it is.

You know what the real weak of this team is? Heracross. Ouch. It mows through everything...

 

[Rukario1]

Stab + Adapt Tri Attack does the same damage as Psychic on a Super Effective Poke. No Point Running Psychic on Z Though. Considering adding some walls that could stop Hera from raping your team apart...

 

[snikerz35]

nice team

You have a pretty nice team your porygon has some nice moves.

 

[Arcknight316]

Porygon-Z @ Choice Specs
Modest / Adaptability
Dark Pulse
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Specs + Modest + 135 SATK + Tri Attack + Adaptability + STAB = ........

SpecsModest may seem redundant, but it is a BEAST.

And Snikerz, I'm sorry to say this, but your post helped nobody.

 

[Jimmyray]

I can't change my P-Z because it has 31 IVs in Sp.Atk (400) and it's shiny. Also, I don't think Psychic+Expert belt is as bad as you think. Tri-attack is too common and predictable for me. If the foe thinks you are gonna use tri-attack, they simply switch into a ghost or rock or steel type or something. That then forces you to switch, which can be a problem. I've been using it for a long time, and it outspeeds most things while 1HKOing pretty much everything. I know your gonna come back at me with a load of mathematical stuff, but you know, sometimes the chances are so slim on these things, I just prefer not to follow the crowd and go for the immediate choice.

 

[Anti]

I can't change my P-Z because it has 31 IVs in Sp.Atk (400) and it's shiny. Also, I don't think Psychic+Expert belt is as bad as you think. Tri-attack is too common and predictable for me. If the foe thinks you are gonna use tri-attack, they simply switch into a ghost or rock or steel type or something. That then forces you to switch, which can be a problem. I've been using it for a long time, and it outspeeds most things while 1HKOing pretty much everything. I know your gonna come back at me with a load of mathematical stuff, but you know, sometimes the chances are so slim on these things, I just prefer not to follow the crowd and go for the immediate choice.

If you think they're going to predict your Tri Attack, Dark Pulse, Tbolt, and IB are there for a reason ;) If you can't ouitpredict them, you probably shouldn't be using a Pory Z anyways unless it's the nasty plot variant or something.

And 90 base speed without a +Spd nature is going to outspeed nothing that is even moderately fast.

And No matter how predictable Tri Attack is, sometimes teams simply cannot stop it.