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rate my ou team

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    • Seen Dec 13, 2024
    The stats are listed as
    Hp
    Attack
    Defense
    Sp attack
    Sp defense
    Speed.

    Ferrothorn: iron Barbs - rocky helmet - hardy nature
     289
     224
    361
    144
    331
    76
    toxic, stealth rocks, leech seed, sandstorm

    Excedrill: life orb-Sand force- adamant nature
    424
    405
    156
    122
    166
    213
    Earthquake, x scissor, iron head, rapid spin

    Talonflame:choice band, gale wings, adamant nature
    297
    261
    178
    165
    174
    386
    Brave bird, u turn, steel wing, flare blitz

    Swampert:swampertite-torrent - hardy
    341
    256
    279
    206
    279
    156
    Stealth rocks, dive, earthquake, stone edge

    Primeape:focus sash -vital spirit- jolly
    271
    309
    156
    140
    176
    317
    Close combat,  ice punch, gunk shot,  vacuum wave

    Garchomp :rocky helmet- rough skin - jolly
    357
    359
    226
    176
    206
    333
    Swords dance, outrage, earthquake, crunch
     
    Neutral natures like Hardy don't do Pokemon any favors, as while they don't lower stats, they don't increase stats, either. Also, EVs are more important than having raw stats.

    Ferrothorn is massive Taunt bait with its current set. If you really want to set up sandstorm, use Tyranitar or Hippowdon, as they set that weather up automatically with their Sand Stream ability. Leech Seed is all Ferrothorn needs if it wants to inflict passive damage:
    -Stealth Rock/Spikes
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip/Protect
    -Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs

    The above is the standard Ferrothorn set, but since you're using Sand Rush Excadrill, use Tyranitar or Hippowdon as your Stealth Rock setter instead:

    Tyranitar:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Stone Edge
    -Crunch/Fire Blast/Ice Beam
    -Pursuit
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 248 HP/80 Def/180 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Smooth Rock
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Hippowdon:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Toxic/Whirlwind
    -Slack Off
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/144 Def/112 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream

    While Sand Force seems tempting to increase Excadrill's power further, it's still not that fast. Its average Speed is why Sand Rush is the preferred ability when it's paired with sandstorm inducers. Rock Slide is literally the only coverage move Excadrill needs, as it has good coverage with Earthquake and allows Excadrill to hit Talonflame, a Pokemon that walls its current moves, on the switch:
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon
    Ability: Sand Rush

    Use max Attack/max Speed as Talonflame's EV spread.

    Mega Swampert must be paired with Politoed to make the most out of its Swift Swim ability. Since this isn't a rain team, Mega Swampert isn't an option. You're better off giving the Mega slot to Garchomp, since it's already paired with Tyranitar/Hippowdon:
    -Swords Dance
    -Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Garchompite

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast
    -Stealth Rock/Stone Edge
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Garchompite

    Now this team needs a Water resistance. Slowbro, Azumarill, Amoonguss, or Tangrowth are good substitutes:

    Slowbro:
    -Scald
    -Psyshock/Calm Mind
    -Thunder Wave
    -Slack Off
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/232 Def/24 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Regenerator

    Azumarill:
    -Waterfall
    -Play Rough
    -Aqua Jet
    -Knock Off/Superpower
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 164 HP/252 Atk/92 Spe (Choice Band) or 240 HP/252 Atk/16 SDef (Assault Vest)
    Item: Choice Band/Assault Vest
    Ability: Huge Power

    or
    -Belly Drum
    -Aqua Jet
    -Play Rough
    -Knock Off
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe
    Item: Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Huge Power

    Primeape outright sucks in competitive play. Yes, it has a decent move pool, but it seriously struggles against bulky Ghost Pokemon. As this is a sand team, Toxic Orb Breloom is a decent fit to help check Water Pokemon more easily and set up with Swords Dance to hit harder:
    -Swords Dance
    -Seed Bomb
    -Superpower/Drain Punch
    -Facade/Mach Punch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 12 HP/244 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal
     
    Neutral natures like Hardy don't do Pokemon any favors, as while they don't lower stats, they don't increase stats, either. Also, EVs are more important than having raw stats.

    Ferrothorn is massive Taunt bait with its current set. If you really want to set up sandstorm, use Tyranitar or Hippowdon, as they set that weather up automatically with their Sand Stream ability. Leech Seed is all Ferrothorn needs if it wants to inflict passive damage:
    -Stealth Rock/Spikes
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip/Protect
    -Gyro Ball/Thunder Wave
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 252 HP/88 Def/168 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Iron Barbs

    The above is the standard Ferrothorn set, but since you're using Sand Rush Excadrill, use Tyranitar or Hippowdon as your Stealth Rock setter instead:

    Tyranitar:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Stone Edge
    -Crunch/Fire Blast/Ice Beam
    -Pursuit
    Nature: Relaxed
    EVs: 248 HP/80 Def/180 SDef
    Item: Leftovers/Smooth Rock
    Ability: Sand Stream

    Hippowdon:
    -Stealth Rock
    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge/Toxic/Whirlwind
    -Slack Off
    Nature: Impish
    EVs: 252 HP/144 Def/112 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Sand Stream

    While Sand Force seems tempting to increase Excadrill's power further, it's still not that fast. Its average Speed is why Sand Rush is the preferred ability when it's paired with sandstorm inducers. Rock Slide is literally the only coverage move Excadrill needs, as it has good coverage with Earthquake and allows Excadrill to hit Talonflame, a Pokemon that walls its current moves, on the switch:
    -Earthquake
    -Iron Head
    -Rock Slide
    -Rapid Spin
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
    Item: Life Orb/Air Balloon
    Ability: Sand Rush

    Use max Attack/max Speed as Talonflame's EV spread.

    Mega Swampert must be paired with Politoed to make the most out of its Swift Swim ability. Since this isn't a rain team, Mega Swampert isn't an option. You're better off giving the Mega slot to Garchomp, since it's already paired with Tyranitar/Hippowdon:
    -Swords Dance
    -Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Garchompite

    or
    -Draco Meteor
    -Earthquake
    -Fire Blast
    -Stealth Rock/Stone Edge
    Nature: Naive
    EVs: 4 Atk/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Garchompite

    Now this team needs a Water resistance. Slowbro, Azumarill, Amoonguss, or Tangrowth are good substitutes:

    Slowbro:
    -Scald
    -Psyshock/Calm Mind
    -Thunder Wave
    -Slack Off
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/232 Def/24 SDef
    Item: Leftovers
    Ability: Regenerator

    Azumarill:
    -Waterfall
    -Play Rough
    -Aqua Jet
    -Knock Off/Superpower
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 164 HP/252 Atk/92 Spe (Choice Band) or 240 HP/252 Atk/16 SDef (Assault Vest)
    Item: Choice Band/Assault Vest
    Ability: Huge Power

    or
    -Belly Drum
    -Aqua Jet
    -Play Rough
    -Knock Off
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 92 HP/252 Atk/164 Spe
    Item: Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Huge Power

    Primeape outright sucks in competitive play. Yes, it has a decent move pool, but it seriously struggles against bulky Ghost Pokemon. As this is a sand team, Toxic Orb Breloom is a decent fit to help check Water Pokemon more easily and set up with Swords Dance to hit harder:
    -Swords Dance
    -Seed Bomb
    -Superpower/Drain Punch
    -Facade/Mach Punch
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 12 HP/244 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Toxic Orb
    Ability: Poison Heal


    I forgot to say where they were ev'ed.
    Ferrothorn both defenses
    Excadrill Hp Attack
    Talonflame speed attack
    Swampert both defenses
    Primeape attack speed
    Garchomp attack speed

    For ferrothorn I was trying to get something that could sit back and take alot and let the opponent fall to toxic and leech seed. I'm open to suggestions.

    Excadrill I wanted something wither for rapid spin or defog the can use the move without dying from the hit takes. Again open to suggestions.

    Swampert hasn't impressed me. Mega Garchomp didn't impress me either when I tried it. Kind of lost on what mega to use or.maybe a different poke altogether.

    Primeape seems good for Breloom spore focus punch sub abusers. Ice punch kills most dragons that are paired with ground and flying for 4x. Gunk shot 2hkos clef able and sylvion. I couldn't get Breloom to work back when I used it
    . Still open to suggestions.
     
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