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    my team, i know there are problems here but i'm a little too lazy to work them out my self before i start to bread and train two new Pokemon. (Milotic and Electivire)
    Thx in advance.:classic:


    Gyarados @ Focus Sash
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Ice Fang
    - Stone Edge
    - Waterfall
    ---
    nothing broken here, need i say more?
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    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 202 HP/232 Def/16 Spd/60 SAtk
    Lax nature (+Def, -SDef)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Flamethrower
    - Earthquake
    ---
    bulk Mence, i can't quite work out the the right EV spread for the optimal def / hp ratio. (leave SPd and SAtk alone) that would help (pretend iv's are 31) I'll use this on shoddy as well
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    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Ability: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 168 HP/132 SAtk/210 SDef
    Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Hypnosis
    ---
    its all i got to defend against special sweepers i didn't like using blissey (other ideas include SpDef orientated Bronzong, curse lax or calm cune.
    ---

    Donphan @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 36 HP/252 Atk/218 Def/4 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Fire Fang
    - Rapid Spin
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Shard
    ---
    standard rapid spin set.
    ---

    Metagross @ Shuca Berry
    Ability: Clear Body
    EVs: 118 HP/165 Atk/139 Def/88 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Agility
    - Zen Headbutt
    - Earthquake
    - Thunderpunch
    ---
    perfect as it is (but the EV ratio for def/hp can be fixed)
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    Electivire @ Life Orb
    Ability: Motor Drive
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
    Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Cross Chop
    ---
    its what i use for special sweeping, sash Gengar wasn't working so it was a toss up between this Raikou (just an idea), skarf Heatran (didn't like the restriction)
     
    Gyrados is pretty bulky, so you might not want to give it the focus sash. However...... all the pokemon in your party are bulky lol. Anyway, nice party and spreads, better than mine =/.
     
    Gyarados @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 212 HP / 16 ATT / 180 DEF / 100 SPEED
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Taunt
    - Earthquake
    - Waterfall
    ---
    BulkyDos
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    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 82 HP / 252 ATT / 176 SPEED
    Adamant Nature
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Flamethrower
    - Earthquake
    ---
    Rofltcopter Lax nature ? yeah...right..

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    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Ability: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 168 HP/132 SAtk/210 SDef
    Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Hypnosis
    ---
    its all i got to defend against special sweepers i didn't like using blissey (other ideas include SpDef orientated Bronzong, curse lax or calm cune.

    ---

    Donphan @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs:252 HP / 40 ATT / 216 DEF
    Impish nature
    - Stealth Rock / Roar / Stone Edge
    - Rapid Spin
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Shard / Toxic
    ---
    No.......
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    Metagross @ Choice Band
    Ability: Clear Body
    EVs: 152 HP / 252 ATT / 104 SPEED
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Explosion
    - Meteor Mash

    - Earthquake
    - Thunderpunch
    ---
    No its not perfect, no meteor mash = P.H.A.I.L
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    Electivire @ Life Orb
    Ability: Motor Drive
    EVs: 80 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 176 SPEED
    Mild nature
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Cross Chop
    ---

    Bad nature and evs =[

    Changes are in bold

    Right, Milotic MUST go, it does nothing, get a proper special wall, without one, Azelf, Porygon-z and other stupidly powerful sp.sweepers walk all over this team. If donphan is your only physical wall, good luck, it has no instant recovery move.


    Blissey@leftovers
    40 HP / 252 DEF / 216 SP.DEF
    Calm nature
    Trait : Natural Cure
    - Seismic Toss
    - Thunderwave
    - Wish
    - Protect

    = win for this team, helps keep Donphan and the rest of your team healthy.


    EDIT : Looking at this again, no status absorber is gonna bite you in the ass, id add a REST-Talker and remove one of your Physical sweepers.
     
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    my team, i know there are problems here but i'm a little too lazy to work them out my self before i start to bread and train two new Pokemon. (Milotic and Electivire)
    Thx in advance.:classic:


    Gyarados @ Lefties/Life Orb
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Ice Fang
    - Stone Edge
    - Waterfall
    ---
    nothing broken here, need i say more?
    Gyara is wayyyy to bulky to run sash, plus the sheer quantity of weather teams eat it up.
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    Salamence @ Leftovers
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 202 HP/232 Def/16 Spd/60 SAtk
    Lax nature (+Def, -SDef)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Dragon Claw
    - Flamethrower
    - Earthquake
    ---
    bulk Mence, i can't quite work out the the right EV spread for the optimal def / hp ratio. (leave SPd and SAtk alone) that would help (pretend iv's are 31) I'll use this on shoddy as well
    I really do not like this. Im gonna leave it alone, simply because i cant see a way of making this work. Mences arent meant to be bulky, they're meant to sweep, but w/e
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    Milotic @ Leftovers
    Ability: Marvel Scale
    EVs: 168 HP/132 SAtk/210 SDef
    Bold
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Hypnosis
    ---
    its all i got to defend against special sweepers i didn't like using blissey (other ideas include SpDef orientated Bronzong, curse lax or calm cune.
    This thing needs bold really. The EV spread looks a bit iffy but the set's ok
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    Donphan @ Leftovers
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 136 HP/152 Atk/218 Def/4 Spd
    Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Fire Fang
    - Rapid Spin
    - Earthquake
    - Ice Shard
    ---
    standard rapid spin set.
    All that def means jack if you're not gonna back it up with HP. Its a spinner not an attacker.
    ---

    Metagross @ Shuca Berry
    Ability: Clear Body
    EVs: 152HP/252Att/108SpdAdamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Agility
    - Meteor Mash
    - Earthquake
    - Thunderpunch/Explosion
    ---
    perfect as it is (but the EV ratio for def/hp can be fixed)
    Standard Agiligros please. Def isnt all too important with that base stat, you're better off bulking its HP out
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    Electivire @ Life Orb
    Ability: Motor Drive
    EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
    Hasty nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Thunderbolt
    - Flamethrower
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Cross Chop
    ---
    its what i use for special sweeping, sash Gengar wasn't working so it was a toss up between this Raikou (just an idea), skarf Heatran (didn't like the restriction)
    This thing is a big plate of fail for a dedicated special sweeper in my books. Base 95 SpAtt really doesnt cut it, especially with a neutral nature. Find out the MixVire set for better results, or better yet fully physical. If you insist on using it please give it a +SpAtt nature and abuse motordrive instead.

    Meh, its pretty bad IMO. Some big changes need to be made but you've got the basics. I advise scrapping Vire and making that mence a sweeper, because to me quad weakness destroys the bulkiness of a poke. You also lack a dedicated physical wall, which needs changing.
     
    thank you for your input i will take into account all that you have said.
     
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