Rate My Team (Revised)

Azonic

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    Thanx to everyone else that posted in my other thread. Hopefully this time, it is a stronger team.

    Heatran@Enigma Berry
    Trait: Flash Fire
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SP. ATK/ 128 DEF/ 124 SP. DEF

    Heat Wave
    Dragon Pulse
    Land Power
    Solarbeam/Flash Cannon

    Tangrowth@Hot Rock
    Trait: Chlorophyll
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SP. ATK/ 204 SP. DEF/ 52 SPEED

    Solarbeam
    Amnesia/Growth???
    Sunnyday
    FocusBlast

    Suicune@Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/ 128 DEF/ 124 SP. DEF

    Surf
    Icebeam
    Rest
    Calm Mind

    *Thinking about replacing this guy.

    Metagross@ Enigma Berry
    Trait: Clear Body
    Nature: Adamant/Jolly
    EVs: 252 ATK/ 252 SP. DEF/ 4 HP

    Rock Polish/Agility(same thing)
    Meteor Mash
    Zen Headbutt
    Rock Slide

    Rhyperior@Enigma Berry
    Trait: Solid Rock
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/ 80 ATK/ 172 DEF

    Earthquake
    Rock Slide
    Avalanche
    Megahorn

    Cresselia@Enigma Berry
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/ 128 DEF/ 124 SP.DEF

    Psychic
    Lunar Dance/Swagger
    MoonLight
    Toxic

    What does Psycho Shift do? I never understood.
    Once again, a double battle, no ubers, all competitive restrictions apply.

    Hope this is better than the last.

    Tangrowth + Heatran
    Rhyperior + Cresselia
    Metagross + Suicune

    Probably leading with Metagross and Suicune, though I am thinking of replacing Suicune, with what?

    And notice I replace Blissey with Cresselia, it stinks with Doubles. Please Rate My Team. Don't be shy, and feel free to criticize! Thanks!
     
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    I like suicune's moveset a lot. Metagross looks cool. I don't know about 4th gen so i can't help much with those so that's all i can help with. Sorry on that. I am in the process of figuring 4th gen out right now.
     
    Terrible. The reason your suicine won't work is because it doesn't have calm mind.

    Suicune@leftovers
    Bold
    252hp/200def/58spdef
    -calm mind<--raises both sp.att and sp.def. pretty useful if you ask me
    -reflect/roar
    -surf
    -rest/roar

    Whoever said Suicune gets ruined in 4th gen is wrong. It's still one of the best bulky waters and with reflect and calm mind it makes a good duo-wall too.

    As for your metagross, it needs thunderpunch from 3rd gen. it should have thunderpunch, meteor mash, and hammer arm/explosion along with agility.

    Your team's kind of a mess, no offense, but this should give you a good start.
     
    My Suicune already has Calm Mind.

    Why Thunderpunch though?

    Hammer Arm doesn't cover a lot of ground.

    MeteorMash+Thunderpunch+Hammer Arm gives it good all around type coverage. Thunderpunch in general hits more pokemon hard. More so than Zen Headbutt, which is a nice move and gets stab, but doesn't cover a whole lot of pokemon. You can actually use earthquake over Hammer Arm since Hammer arm decreases speed which kind of beats the purpose of agility.

    You need a bold suicune with defense iv's. that's the best suicune. calm suicune is a waste since you're getting the sp.def from calm mind.
     
    Umm... my Suicune is already bold!

    Metagross, its already in the 4th generation though.

    Earthslide is a good combo right? And Rockslide is great for doubles.
     
    you cant use most of these in certain tournaments the only thing that makes it good is the 3 legndaries
     
    Umm... my Suicune is already bold!

    Metagross, its already in the 4th generation though.

    Earthslide is a good combo right? And Rockslide is great for doubles.

    ah yes, apparently it is bold. my eyes must be messed up because i didn't see calm mind on it, and i saw its nature as calm. meh, it would help if you post the movesets with the pokemon together, and not seperate them so it's easier for other to see, just a suggestion. but there's no reason why suicune won't work in 4th gen. gotta make sure you have defense ev's though.

    metagross doesn't need earthslide. meteor mash hits almost everything hard and earthquake, hammer arm, thunderpunch are all great options which give it good type coverage. metagross can sweep through entire teams that don't have the right counter, whether it be a good wall or garchomp.
     
    get another or trade for one. if it doesn't get tpunch then it's completely walled by skarmory. tpunch can at least make it feel pain. it also hits bulky water hard. zen headbutt just doesn't compare. having tbolt is almost standard on metagross now.
     
    Tangrowth@Hot Rock
    Trait: Chlorophyll
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SP. ATK/ 204 SP. DEF/ 52 SPEED

    -Sunny Day
    -Solarbeam
    -Shock Wave/Stun Spore
    -Focus Blast

    Give it a try. 0:

    Rhyperior@Enigma Berry/Choice Band
    Trait: Solid Rock
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 HP/ 80 ATK/ 172 DEF

    -Earthquake
    -Stone Edge
    -Avalanche/Rock Polish
    -Megahorn


    Cresselia@ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 252 HP/ 128 DEF/ 124 SP.DEF

    -Psychic
    -Lunar Dance
    -Thunder Wave
    -Shadow Ball/Grass Knot/Ice Beam

    Also. Not good to double post. ._.

    Heatran@Enigma Berry
    Trait: Flash Fire
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 252 SP. ATK/ 128 DEF/ 124 SP. DEF

    - Flamethrower
    - Solarbeam/Flash Cannon
    - Earth Power
    - Dragon Pulse

    Rock Polish and Agility are two different attacks.
     
    OK, just the Tangrowth, with Sunnyday, I thought I should have 3 other Attack type moves, shouldn't I?
    Cresselia should just Paralyze shuffle, so it should have Swagger, right?
    Doesn't Dragon Pulse only cover one type?
    Heat Wave over Flamethrower, since it attacks 2 opponents.
    Rock Polish and Agility are two different attacks.

    They have the same effect and serve the same purpose.
     
    OK, just the Tangrowth, with Sunnyday, I thought I should have 3 other Attack type moves, shouldn't I?
    That would be helpful.
    Cresselia should just Paralyze shuffle, so it should have Swagger, right?
    Swagger doesn't help often. The attack boost is horrid for you.
    Doesn't Dragon Pulse only cover one type?
    Yes. A type that will do major damage to Heteran. So it's best to ko them.
    Heat Wave over Flamethrower, since it attacks 2 opponents.
    Yes but I suggested Flamethrower due to the accuracy.

    They have the same effect and serve the same purpose.

    Yes, but I'm referring to why Rock Polish when Metagross can learn Agility?
     
    Eh. No concern there, its going to have to learn one or the other.

    Dragon Pulse is officially on Heatran.

    I'm sticking with Heat Wave. 90% doesn't miss too often, and it is going to hit one or the other anyways, so I'm keeping it.

    EDIT: So back to Suicune. Swampert, Milotic, and Gyarados were recommended to me for replacements by a friend. Should I or Shouldn't I
     
    You don't have to delete your post and repost it, you know. x_x;

    Swampert would make a good bulky alternative.
     
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