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    Rate my team please – This is not meant to be extremely competitive, Its just Pokemon I really want to use, but I don't want to have a crappy team so please help me with the move sets and other things.

    Flygon
    Admant nature
    Leftovers
    Moveset:
    - Flamethrower
    - Dragonclaw
    - Earthquake
    - Crunch
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SAtk

    Sceptile – Can I use him as a special sweeper if I was to battle?
    Timid or Modest nature
    Petaya Berry
    Moveset:
    - Dragonclaw
    - Leafblade
    - Crunch
    - Leech Seed
    EVs: Max out special attack and speed.

    Tentacruel
    Hasty nature
    Leftovers
    Moveset:
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Sword Dance
    - Hydro Pump
    - Ice Beam
    Evs: 252 Atk/ 148 Spd/ 110 SDef

    And I KNOW I want a Weezing, but don't know a good moveset for him, maybe you guys could help me out. And I am looking for a good non chansey spdefence wall Dusknoir maybe?
     
    There's only three here. Flygon can't have Adamant AND Flamethrower-Adamant lowers Flamethrower too much. Use Naughty, or Naive.
     
    KK. Physical Sceptile = no. Subseeder. Always. Petaya Berry = never.

    Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overgrow
    EV's: 252 Spd / 56 HP / 200 Def
    Jolly / Timid Nature Nature
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Energy Ball
    - HP [Fire].

    Weezing (M) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunderbolt / Will-o-Wisp
    - Haze
    - Pain Split.

    Tentacruel (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EV's: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 18 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Poison Jab
    - Substitute.

    Flygon (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 Atk / 120 SAtk / 136 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Earthquake
    - U-Turn
    - Stone Edge
    - Draco Meteor.
     
    Weezing@Leftovers/Black Sludge
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Spd

    Taunt/Pain Split
    Sludge Bomb/Explosion
    WoW
    Destiny Bond/Explosion/Pain Split

    Taunt is great in setting up a suicide with Destiny Bond. Sludge Bomb with stab. WoW to annoy physical Sweepers and you can have curse to run on a higher attack. Explosion over Destiny Bond if you wanna be sure about it. Pain Split for more recovery, and to allow a kill on a Max Defense Blissey...:)

    Works great on a Trick Room team with pokemon such as Bronzong.

    ~M51
     
    Mullac51 said:
    Weezing@Leftovers/Black Sludge
    Bold
    252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Spd

    Taunt
    Sludge Bomb/Explosion
    WoW
    Destiny Bond/Explosion/Pain Split

    Taunt is great in setting up a suicide with Destiny Bond. Sludge Bomb with stab. WoW to annoy physical Sweepers and you can have curse to run on a higher attack. Explosion over Destiny Bond if you wanna be sure about it. Pain Split for more recovery, and to allow a kill on a Max Defense Blissey...:)

    Works great on a Trick Room team with pokemon such as Bronzong.

    ~M51
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    Destiny Bond isn't really that great of a move on anything to be honest.
     
    Itachi 2007 said:
    KK. Physical Sceptile = no. Subseeder. Always. Petaya Berry = never.

    Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overgrow
    EV's: 252 Spd / 56 HP / 200 Def
    Jolly / Timid Nature Nature
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Energy Ball
    - HP [Fire].

    Weezing (M) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunderbolt / Will-o-Wisp
    - Haze
    - Pain Split.

    Tentacruel (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EV's: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 18 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Poison Jab
    - Substitute.

    Flygon (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 Atk / 120 SAtk / 136 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Earthquake
    - U-Turn
    - Stone Edge
    - Draco Meteor.
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    Well thanks kindly sir. That was like a complete transformation of mine! Haha, this is why I share my teams with you guys, kuz I suck at building teams.

    Well do you have any ideas for a special wall I can use that is not chansey
     
    I could have sworn that Weezing had Fire Blast, but I'm honestly not sure.
     
    El Capitano said:
    Well thanks kindly sir. That was like a complete transformation of mine! Haha, this is why I share my teams with you guys, kuz I suck at building teams.

    Well do you have any ideas for a special wall I can use that is not chansey
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    Milotic can work well. It works great in both 4th and 3rd Gen.

    Milotic (F) @ Leftovers **Sea Serpant
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EV's: 148 HP / 240 Def 120 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Hypnosis
    - Recover.

    Or,

    Milotic (F) @ Leftovers **Sea Serpant
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EV's: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam / Toxic
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk. The more defensive Set. Meant to abuse Marvel Scale. Also, the nickname was optional. And I could actually find a Name for that one. :P Edit: @ Sims, that was on the more special attacking set. :p
     
    I'm going to point out that Garchomp learns all of the moves that Flygon gets in a moveset, yet Garchomp can probably do the job better.
     
    Regardless, Flygon is good enough if one wants to use it. Plus, Flygon is more defensive. Immune to EQ, Spikes, & has Roost. So its a matter of personal preference.
     
    sims796 said:
    Regardless, Flygon is good enough if one wants to use it. Plus, Flygon is more defensive. Immune to EQ, Spikes, & has Roost. So its a matter of personal preference.
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    Yea I do know that Garchomp may be better, or more offencive. But I really do just want to use Flygon, because I have used Garchomp before.
     
    Curselax is another nice special wall.

    Snorlax@Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    Nature: Careful/Impish/Adament
    EVS: 140 HP, 72 Def, 252 Sp Def, 44 Atk
    ~Return/Body Slam
    ~Curse
    ~Crunch/Earthquake
    ~Rest
     
    Um, Flygon is SO better tyhan garchomp. But people will go after me for saying that, so never mind...

    For curselax, Careful is standard, and it needs about 30 or so more Atk EVs (out of SDef).
     
    Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
    Um, Flygon is SO better tyhan garchomp. But people will go after me for saying that, so never mind...

    For curselax, Careful is standard, and it needs about 30 or so more Atk EVs (out of SDef).
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    What do you think is better for a special wall, Milotic or Snorlax?\

    EDIT: Ok here is my updated team, I owe ALOT of help to Itachi2007 and everyone else who posted here

    Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overgrow
    EV's: 252 Spd / 56 HP / 200 Def
    Jolly / Timid Nature Nature
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Energy Ball
    - HP [Fire].

    Weezing (M) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Thunderbolt / Will-o-Wisp
    - Haze
    - Pain Split.

    Tentacruel (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EV's: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 18 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Poison Jab
    - Substitute.

    Flygon (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 Atk / 120 SAtk / 136 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Earthquake
    - U-Turn
    - Stone Edge
    - Draco Meteor.

    Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EV's: 148 HP / 240 Def 120 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Hypnosis
    - Recover.

    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shell Armor
    EV's: 252 HP / 92 Def / 8 Spd / 156 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Spikes
    - Ice Beam
    - Surf
    - Rapid Spin


    I picked Cloyster for my Defensive wall kuz I just like him. Please help me with the move set I made for it.
     
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    El Capitano said:
    What do you think is better for a special wall, Milotic or Snorlax?\

    EDIT: Ok here is my updated team, I owe ALOT of help to Itachi2007 and everyone else who posted here

    Sceptile (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overgrow
    EV's: 252 Spd / 4 HP / 252 SAtk
    Jolly / Timid Nature Nature
    - Substitute
    - Leech Seed
    - Energy Ball
    - HP [Fire]

    Um, a subseeder sceptile without SAtk EVs simply fails.

    Weezing (M) @ Black Sludge
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spd
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Will-o-Wisp
    - Haze
    - Pain Split.

    Don't really see the point of Speed EVs on it, but okay.

    Tentacruel (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    EV's: 76 HP / 252 Atk / 18 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Swords Dance
    - Waterfall
    - Poison Jab
    - Substitute.

    Um, this set is really messed up. Especiall the EVs :/ If you want entacruel to be of use, rapid spin might be nice, not to mention running careful with WAY more SDef EVs, so it can actually take a hit...

    Flygon (M) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Levitate
    EV's: 252 Atk / 120 SAtk / 136 Spd
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Earthquake
    - U-Turn
    - Stone Edge
    - Draco Meteor.

    Needs more Spd. Switch Atk and Spd EVs.

    Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Marvel Scale
    EV's: 148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Surf
    - Ice Beam
    - Hypnosis
    - Recover.

    Er, I'd invest in some more HP EVs.

    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shell Armor
    EV's: 252 HP / 92 Def / 8 Spd / 156 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Spikes
    - Ice Beam
    - Surf
    - Rapid Spin

    Weezing accomplishes the same thing...and cloyster has enough trouble taking physical attacks, giving it a lousy 92 Def EVs isn't helping. Take out the bulk of those SAtk EVs and put them into Def.

    I picked Cloyster for my Defensive wall kuz I just like him. Please help me with the move set I made for it.
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    Weezing IS a physical wall :/ Most of the problems were in the EVs, which were pretty bad IMO. But the sets were genrally good.

    Eh, tantacruel might want more of a...defensive moveset.
     
    Cruel can Haze at the cost of Spinning. =/

    Tentacruel @ Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    Bold Nature
    - Haze
    - Knock Off
    - Surf
    - Hidden Power [Electric / Grass] / Mirror Coat

    Hahaha... Suicune Counter. <3
     
    actually itachi, d-bond is a GREAT move on gengar, but not on a weezing.


    Weezing@black sludge
    bold
    Levitate
    (252 def, 152 hp, 100 s.attk)

    Pain Split
    Thunder bolt
    Flamethrower
    W-o-W

    this weezing defeats almost ANY phisical sweep, it also packs a punch that can easily ohko a gyarados.
     
    oreo said:
    actually itachi, d-bond is a GREAT move on gengar, but not on a weezing.


    Weezing@black sludge
    bold
    Levitate
    (252 def, 152 hp, 100 s.attk)

    Pain Split
    Thunder bolt
    Flamethrower
    W-o-W

    this weezing defeats almost ANY phisical sweep, it also packs a punch that can easily ohko a gyarados.
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    Hmm. I really disagree with the fact that D-Bond is great on Gengar.. But i'm always disagreeing. Like Anti.. :P
     
    Love the suicune counter thing ;)

    And if you use destiny bond while switching is occuring (bad prediction basically), you'll give away the surprise and the foe can plan around it. Gengar is meant to sweep, not get in a prediction war with somebody else with...
     
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