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Waffle-San

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    Ya I assembled most of this team before i knew the importance of EV's and natures. They havn't all been trained yet and my brothers friend has a couple that I need to get back so I can't list all of there stats.
    I'm open to any ideas, even throwing pokemon out, I'm assembling another team as well so ya.

    Weavile
    naughty nature
    Pressure
    Lv.54
    Hp 150
    Attack 163
    Defense 94
    Sp. Att 76
    Sp. Def 98
    Speed 149

    Sunny Day
    Ice Beam (already used my avalanche tm):stupid,stupid:
    Night Slash
    X-scissor

    Arcanine
    Modest Nature
    Intimidate
    HP 246
    Atk 204
    Def 164
    Sp. Atk 221
    Sp.Def 156
    Speed 205

    Dragon Pulse
    Flamethrower
    Extremespeed/Earthquake
    Solarbeam

    Swampert
    lv.79
    Hasty Nature
    Torrent
    HP 280
    Atk 204
    Def 146
    Sp. Atk 171
    Sp. Def 156
    Speed 147

    Brick Break
    Ice Beam
    Earthquake
    Surf

    Lucario
    Lv. 64
    Quirky nature
    Steadfast
    Hp 192
    Atk 160
    Def 131
    Sp. Atk 169
    Sp. Def 117
    Speed 142

    Aura Sphere
    Shadow Ball
    Flash Cannon
    Dragon Pulse

    Salamence
    Modest(not sure what it is) Nature
    Intimidate

    Crunch
    Dragon Claw
    Flamethrower
    Fly/Aerial Ace

    Dusknoir
    Sassy nature
    pressure

    Curse
    Ominous Wind/Mean Look
    Psychic/Shadow Punch
    Toxic/Rest

    So ya i'm looking for whatever cause I'm breeding rate now so I can get better natures and better moves and so I can EV train this time.
     
    Ya I assembled most of this team before i knew the importance of EV's and natures. They havn't all been trained yet and my brothers friend has a couple that I need to get back so I can't list all of there stats.
    I'm open to any ideas, even throwing pokemon out, I'm assembling another team as well so ya.

    Weavile
    Jolly nature
    Pressure
    Lv.54

    Aerial Ace
    Ice Punch
    Night Slash
    Swords Dance / Ice Shard / Quick Attack
    Special Attacks on Weavile is an abomination. Don't do it.

    Arcanine
    Modest Nature
    Intimidate

    Dragon Pulse
    Flamethrower
    Sunny Day
    Solarbeam
    Arcanine can't get Earthquake lol
    Special Arcanine. We're getting somewhere. Houndoom is better than this though.


    Swampert
    lv.79
    Relaxed Nature
    Torrent

    Protect
    Ice Beam
    Earthquake
    Roar / Counter
    Swampert is basically made for a defensive form of Attacking.

    Lucario
    Lv. 64
    Hasty nature
    Steadfast

    Aura Sphere
    Stone Edge
    Me First / Crunch
    Dragon Pulse
    Might want to run with a little more variety there, sport.

    Salamence
    Naughty Nature
    Intimidate

    Dragon Dance
    Dragon Claw
    Flamethrower / Fire Blast
    Earthquake

    Dusknoir
    Impish nature
    pressure

    Pain Split
    Shadow Claw
    Focus Punch
    Substitute / Will-o-Wisp

    So ya i'm looking for whatever cause I'm breeding rate now so I can get better natures and better moves and so I can EV train this time.
    There, I made your team look purty. Needs a Special Tank though, mate.
     
    I don't know what you did to Dusknoir but whatever X-scissor is an attack type, sunny day works better on Weavile, the whole point of that is so Arcanine doesn't take any damage from say a Water type.
    I know very well sp. Atk moves are horrible on weavile but that was for lack of a better move available.
    thanks for your opinion I'll use it as best I can.
     
    Cheesy text here
    I don't know what you did to Dusknoir but whatever
    Because Dusknoir with Special Attacks is meaningless. Also, it doesn't have the HP to use Rest.

    X-scissor is an attack type, sunny day works better on Weavile, the whole point of that is so Arcanine doesn't take any damage from say a Water type.
    And Weavile using Sunny Day just lures in a Fire Type, or for that matter, lures in something like DDSala, which will have an EASIER time OHKOing Skarm, or any other Physical tanks for that matter with a Fire Blast. Also, why use Sunny Day, then switch to Arcanine anyway? That's just a waste of turns.

    And Weavile doesn't need X-Scissor. It already hurts Grass Types with a STABed Ice Punch, and it crushes Psychic Types with Night Slash. But it does, however, NEED Aerial Ace for a defense against Heracross or Medicham.


    I know very well sp. Atk moves are horrible on weavile but that was for lack of a better move available.
    Lack of a better move? Take a look at your resources.

    thanks for your opinion I'll use it as best I can.
    More cheesy text here
     
    Lack of better move that i have and as hard as i try, i can't find a pokemon that knows ice pucnh to breed with Weavile, to learn ice punch.
    sorry for not explaining this earlier, the first moves on Dusknoir are what it knows now because I havn't evoled it yet, the second is what i plan on teaching it, or breeding to get.
    so
    Curse
    Shadow punch
    Mean Look
    Rest/Confuse Ray/Will-o-wisp/Toxic (all those are up in the air)

    The plan is to send Weavile in first, use Sunny Day then hope they send there water/grass type in the next five turns, BUT if it fails I don't see it denting my plans to much. I'm not a very competitive player. I just like raising any pokemon.

    I think your advice has helped though so thanks.
     
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    ...Well since I'm still here

    Hitmonchan w/Ice Punch + Buneary (F) = Buneary w/Ice Punch
    Buneary (M) w/Ice Punch + Sneasel (F) = Sneasel w/Ice Punch

    Well that's what I did anyway.
     
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