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Rate my year old team

Netto-kun

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    I have this year old team. What should I do with it?

    Weavile "Renato" @ Expert Belt
    Jolly Nature
    252 Atk, 252 Speed
    -Aerial Ace
    -Night Slash
    -Brick Break
    -Ice Punch

    Gengar "Gustavo" @ Wise Glasses
    Timid Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed
    -Shadow Ball
    -Energy Ball
    -Thunderbolt
    -Focus Blast

    Swampert "Satoshi" @ Chesto Berry
    Adamant Nature
    252 Atk, 100 Speed, 156 Sp. Def
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquaake
    -Avalanche
    -Rest

    Togekiss @ King's Rock
    Timid Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 HP
    -Aura Sphere
    -Air Slash
    -Thunder Wave
    -Wish

    Tangrowth "Marcelo" @ Wide Lens
    Impish Nature
    I think it was: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
    -Sleep Powder
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip
    -Knock Off

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Calm Nature
    252 HP, 252 Sp. Def I think
    -Seismic Toss
    -Thunder Bolt
    -Heal Bell
    -Softboiled

    What should I do?
     
    Netto-kun said:
    I have this year old team. What should I do with it?

    Weavile "Renato" @ Life Orb
    Jolly Nature
    252 Atk, 252 Speed
    -Aerial Ace
    -Night Slash
    -Brick Break
    -Ice Punch

    Life orb's generally better since it gives you a boost on every hit.

    Gengar "Gustavo" @ Wise Glasses
    Timid Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed
    -Shadow Ball
    -Energy Ball/ Hypnosis
    -Thunderbolt
    -Focus Blast

    I'm not sure what you're trying to cover with energy ball, but I'd say tangrowth probably has it covered as well. Hypnosis is a traditional gar move. It'll come in handy if you choose to use it.

    Swampert "Satoshi" @ Leftovers
    Relaxed Nature
    240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA
    -Hydro Pump/Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Beam/Avalanche
    -Stealth Rock

    I recommend you slap SR on pert (Which I guarantee you, you will not regret), bias a bit more towards defense, and go mixed(optional).     Lefties to compliment it's defensive build.

    Togekiss @ Leftovers
    Modest Nature
    252 Sp. Atk, 252 HP
    -Aura Sphere
    -Air Slash
    -Thunder Wave
    -Softboiled

    King's Rock is frowned upon to be honest and usually not allowed( Iirc it doesn't affect Air slash). Lefties is more beneficial. Also Wish -> Softboiled. If you plan on passing wishes have blissey do it since it's less vulnerable to SR. Timid -->Modest
    Tangrowth "Marcelo" @ Leftovers
    Impish Nature
    I think it was: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 6 Attack
    -Sleep Powder
    -Leech Seed
    -Power Whip
    -Knock Off

    I'd reccomend leftovers over wide lends. Some of the accuracy may not be perfect, but Tangrowth's lack of good reliable recovery may come back to bite you. So I'd go lefties.

    Blissey @ Leftovers
    Bold Nature
    252 HP, 252 Def
    -Seismic Toss
    -Thunder Bolt/ Ice Beam
    -Heal Bell/ Thunder Wave
    -Softboiled/Wish

    It's a basic blissey set, nothing too tricky here.     It's biased more towards defense because blissey is already an awesome special wall with or without the evs.

    Changes in bold.

    What should I do?
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    I'd say it's pretty damn good for an old team considering how the metagame has changed. It's structured pretty well and can hit effectively on both the physical and special spectrum. It may look I reccommended some drastic changes, but from what I see it'd probably help you alot if you'd choose to use it again.
     
    No, Bold Blissey's outdated. It's definitely something when SpecsLuke only needs Aura Sphere to 2HKO it. Calm Blissey is the way to go.
     
    Heh, Fabian, some Lucario are running Focus Blast, just for that purpose. This only furthers the cause that Blissey needs Calm.
     
    Fabian the Fastman said:
    No, Bold Blissey's outdated. It's definitely something when SpecsLuke only needs Aura Sphere to 2HKO it. Calm Blissey is the way to go.
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    First of all, I hope you don't mean outdated = not viable, that's just wrong. It works just fine.

    sims796 said:
    Heh, Fabian, some Lucario are running Focus Blast, just for that purpose. This only furthers the cause that Blissey needs Calm.
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    Aura Sphere or Focus Blast it doesn't really matter, bliss shouldn't go 1 on 1 against a Lucario under any circumstance. I'm pretty it sure it'd be hard to fine someone who wouldn't switch out. So I'd say that "purpose" is pretty much nulled.


    Not that I'm bashing calm bliss or anything by the way, it's an alright set, your reasoning just doesn't seem relevant. In the end it depends on what he'd like to use. On another note, Tangrowth seems to be the only thing stopping tauntrados.
     
    Actually bold bissey no longer works. That's what comes with being outdated- the game changes around you and you stay still. Blissey came under pressure in particular, with everybody adapting their special sweepers to take on the old set. The afformentioned Lucario is a good example, with Specsluke being able to 2HKO with aura sphere.

    And blissey would have to try and stay in against some variants lucario, it's a special walls job to take on special sweepers. Surely the need to switch out, by your own admission, is a sign of that? New blissey spread is essential.
     
    Life Orb over Expert Belt, Swords Dance over Aerial Ace on Weavile. Also this should not be lead.

    Ugh, no. Scarf Gengar here, Hypnosis (D/P) or Trick (Pt) over Energy Ball.

    Swampert should be Impish, 252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk and Avalanche, Stealth Rock, Earthquake and Waterfall/Stone Edge. Leftovers.

    I'll do the rest some other time, my parents are literally throwing me off the laptop now XD
     
    El Gofre said:
    Actually bold bissey no longer works. That's what comes with being outdated- the game changes around you and you stay still. Blissey came under pressure in particular, with everybody adapting their special sweepers to take on the old set. The afformentioned Lucario is a good example, with Specsluke being able to 2HKO with aura sphere.

    And blissey would have to try and stay in against some variants lucario, it's a special walls job to take on special sweepers. Surely the need to switch out, by your own admission, is a sign of that? New blissey spread is essential.
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    eh..I added my 2 cents, I don't have anything more to say that I haven't already. It's pretty much just preference. I still stand by Luc vs Bliss = no no comment.
     
    Are you using this team on DP Wi-Fi, or Shoddy?
     
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    Lunar Fang said:
    First of all, I hope you don't mean outdated = not viable, that's just wrong. It works just fine.
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    Only it IS no longer viable. Bold Blissey no longer has the walling ability to take special hits as well; in addition to Lucario, Specs ALAKAZAM 2HKO's with Focus Blast.

    See now? Bold Blissey just can't do it anymore; she needs to be Calm if she wants to stay alive.
     
    Just use Calm and this EV spread:

    252 Def, 40 SpA, 216 SpD
     
    Well, as for Blissey, I can't change her nature and put Wish on her, since I EVed her and teached her Seismic Toss in my Leaf Green. And I've lost my Leaf Green game.

    Don't you people think I should change one of those team members? I don't feel secure with those members.
     
    Netto-kun said:
    Well, as for Blissey, I can't change her nature and put Wish on her, since I EVed her and teached her Seismic Toss in my Leaf Green. And I've lost my Leaf Green game.

    Don't you people think I should change one of those team members? I don't feel secure with those members.
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    I was actually avoiding that >_____>.

    The best I can say now is Tangrowth -->Celebi, but honestly you may be better off making a new team. I can't really tell you who to change other than to pokemon who happen to do the same job better. Your team is structured fine (2 special sweepers, 2 physical sweepers ,2 walls) , but it doesn't really abide by any kind of synche. Ie: Celebi, Heatran...but that's just how I see it. =/
     
    I agree. This team, well, is a year old. Sure, it may be structured well, but at this point, that structure won't work as well. The whole 2 sweepers, 2 walls, etc doesn't really cut it. Pokes can hit harder than ever, and the ability to easily charge up can decimate this team. Revenge killers are more important, yada yada yada.

    anywho, i second blowing this team up, and rebuilting from scratch.
     
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