Rate ruby team plz...

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    this is my current ruby team...i cant remember the natures so im not listing them is i cant remember.

    Rayquaza, leftovers
    lv95
    Outrage(i like this, i just use the yellow flute to snap out of confusion)
    Shockwave
    Flamethrower
    Fly(useful, but i dont rlly like 2 turn moves)

    Blaziken
    lv 90
    Double kick
    Blaze kick
    Sky uppercut
    Strength(lovely, ive made it a habit to put strength on all my starters)

    Salamence
    lv 64
    Dragonbreath (changing this to dragon claw when it learns it at lv 69)
    Flamethrower
    Fly
    Crunch

    Flygon
    lv 73
    Dig
    Steel wing
    Dragon claw
    Dragon breath(i think, its either this or something else)

    Latios
    lv 50 (battle tower pokemon)
    Pyschic
    Luster Purge (changing this to recover)
    Double team (...)
    Dragon breath

    Milotic
    lv 31 (training)
    Surf
    Water pulse (changing this to ice beam)
    Twister
    Recover

    this is my team for ingame battling...Ruby
    I noe 4 of em are 4x/2x weak to ice but im the dragon loving trainer type. Rayquaza kills glacia with a one hit KO shockwave before she does anything anyways
    dont put Groudon in there Please i beg u people...
    i dont have it and it pains me to hear it. i was such an idiot that i ran from it. (cant help it can i? ruby was the first ever pokemon game i played.)
     
    Too many novice trainers disregard natures and the value of them. You should know by now with your Jolly Mewtwo. I will include what the nature of the Poke should be. Fixes and suggestions in bold:
    this is my current ruby team...i cant remember the natures so im not listing them is i cant remember.

    Rayquaza (Lv95) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Air Lock
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Aerial Ace
    - Earthquake
    - Extremespeed
    - Rock Slide

    You really feel the need to use a Lv95 Uber Poke against the pathetically weak AI? While the moveset leaves a lot to be desired (which is probably why you are actually using other Pokes on your team), that certainly takes out any strategy whatsoever and becomes a HUGE crutch. I would highly suggest only using Rayquaza as an HM whore (you already have Fly) and not battle with it, unless it is an uber battle with a friend. If you insist on using this crutch, it is best used as a physical attacker. Outrage is a horrible Dragon move. First you are locked into it and then you have to waste a turn with the Yellow Flute. Dragon Claw is MUCH better, but you shouldn't use that either. The above moveset is preferred. Aerial Ace is a STAB move that runs off its high base Atk (150) and the Choice Band adds 10% of pain. Extremespeed is a very strong Quick Attack, meaning it will almost always attack first. Earthquake and Rock Slide are no-brainers.

    Like I said, I wouldn't use that thing though. Too cheap.


    Blaziken (Lv 90) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Blaze
    Hasty Nature (+Spd, -Def)
    - Fire Blast
    - Rock Slide
    - Swords Dance

    - Sky Uppercut

    You really need to kick that bad habit. Strength is a bad move to use, especially on a non-Normal Poke. Blaziken gets no advantage in using it and it prevents it from using a more effective move, like Rock Slide, to cover its huge Flying weakness. Put that Strength on Rayquaza. Blaze Kick is another useless move. Why use a 90% accurate 85 AP move when you can use an 85% accurate 120 AP move? Even Flamethrower (100% accurate 95 AP move) is a better option than that. Also avoid using two moves of the same type. Instead of the weaker Double Kick, use Swords Dance. It will increase its Atk by 2 stages, allowing Sky Uppercut and Rock Slide to cause even more damage. Sadly, like Sceptile, Blaziken cannot get its best moveset until well after the Weak Five. One of too many reasons why Swampert is the King of starters.

    Salamence (Lv 64) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Intimidate
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Aerial Ace
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide

    - Flamethrower

    Totally useless on a team with Rayquaza. Just another reason to drop Rayquaza and put Salamence in its place. While it is still a strong Poke in its own right, it isn't ridiculously powerful and much better balanced than its uber counterpart. Like Rayquaza, I would take advantage of its physical movepool than special.

    Flygon (Lv 73) @ Leftovers / Choice Band
    Trait: Levitate
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Fire Blast
    - Substitute / Screech / Quick Attack
    - Rock Slide

    Another useless Poke with not only Rayquaza but Salamence (not to mention Latios below) too. Also, a Flygon without a STAB Earthquake is a VERY VERY VERY sad Flygon. Like most Dragon-types, Flygon is a MUCH more effective physical attacker than special. The third slot is your preference. Substitute allows Flygon to sweep rather well, especially against the pathetic AI that will throw in a non-attacking move too often. Screech drops your opponent's Def by 2 stages, making it much easier to KO. Quick Attack is an Egg move, but it is still an attack first move. Very nice.


    Latios (Lv 50) @ Soul Dew
    Trait: Levitate
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Dragon Claw / Calm Mind
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Thunderbolt

    Another cheap Poke. Not as bad as Rayquaza, although that doesn't mean much. How it is allowed in Battle Frontier (and Celebi/Jirachi aren't), I will never know. More proof that the programmers for Game Freak are retards and have no concept about balance and strategy. Dragon Claw is the best Dragon move and gets STAB, but Calm Mind is better imo. Boosting Ice Beam and Thunderbolt allows it to kill most Pokes.


    Milotic (Lv 31) @ Leftovers
    Triat: Marvel Scale
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Hypnosis / Sleep Talk
    - Ice Beam / Toxic

    - Surf
    - Recover / Rest

    Ahhhh. Excellent choice. The first thing I am going to say is that if its nature isn't Bold, I would breed it until it is, especially with it only in training. A Bold Milotic is going to be a much better option for you. Since it is already strong against special attacks, Bold + max Def EVs makes it absorb physical attacks as well. My favorite is the Rest/Sleep Talk/Surf/Toxic set, but the first option can be just as effective. Hypnosis puts its counters to sleep (unless you aren't lucky) and it can sweep with Ice Beam and a STAB Surf. Having a great HP recovery move doesn't hurt much either.


    this is my team for ingame battling...Ruby
    I noe 4 of em are 4x/2x weak to ice but im the dragon loving trainer type. Rayquaza kills glacia with a one hit KO shockwave before she does anything anyways
    dont put Groudon in there Please i beg u people...
    i dont have it and it pains me to hear it. i was such an idiot that i ran from it. (cant help it can i? ruby was the first ever pokemon game i played.)
    Your love for Dragon-types fails you. You can defeat Glacia because your Rayquaza is **LEVEL 95** while Glacia's strongest Poke (Lv53 Walrein) is 42 levels weaker. Rayquaza could OHKO it by spitting on it.

    That doesn't mean your team is good though, it just means you take advantage of the weak AI. If you played against someone else, they would bring out Swampert (or any Poke with Ice Beam) and proceed to destroy your entire team without any difficulty. Rayquaza, Salamence, and Flygon are OHKOs. Blaziken and Latios would be 2HKOs. Milotic wouldn't live through more than three STAB Earthquakes either. That is the difference between an in-game team and a competitive team. An in-game team is incredibly weak and centered around a common weakness, making it easy to defeat (just like your team). A competitive team will have a variety of different types that can counter each other, not to mention a few defensive Pokes that can take hits for your team.

    As for your team, I would keep Blaziken, Milotic, and either Salamence or Flygon. I would then add another physical attacker, a Poke that resists Normal/Flying attacks, and another special attacker. With those changes, your team would be well-balanced and you could even survive playing against someone else.
     
    ummm...i dont have that many earthquakes and i forgot a pokemon that shouldn't be there....

    i cant remeber if its salamence or flygon but one of them is replaced with Crobat with:
    lv 54
    ??? nature
    poison fang
    ???
    ???
    ???

    i can only remember one but crobat replaced either one of them... cant remember which although it is still 2x weak to ice type. but its got good speed.

    and Altaria
    lv 52
    ??? nature
    cant remember moveset

    the ones listed before were also only my best and favorited although not necessarily most ranged in types.
    iv got more than 150+ poke on my ruby so they were just my choices.

    iv also got a lv 47 metagross, gardevoir, etc etc the types.
    ruby is my best game
     
    The Natures are one of the most important factors to effectively train up a Pokemon, not to mention EVs and IVs as well...

    We need those natures, and while you had your game turned on to post this moveset, you should've been posting the natures.
    this is my current ruby team...i cant remember the natures so im not listing them is i cant remember.

    Rayquaza, leftovers
    lv95
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Earthquake
    - Thunderbolt

    - Dragon Dance
    - Aerial Ace
    IMO, you should replace this. In-Game has no use for ubers. ._.

    Blaziken
    lv 90
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    Rock Slide
    Fire Blast
    Sky uppercut
    Bulk Up / Swords Dance
    Do NOT use HM Moves. They're disappointingly useless.
    Hopefully you have FR/LG so you can give it Swords Dance.


    Salamence
    lv 64
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    Dragon Dance
    Fire Blast
    Earthquake
    Aerial Ace
    Much better Moveset.

    Flygon
    lv 73
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    Earthquake
    Screech
    Substitute
    Rock Slide
    This is the only way to use Flygon. Either get these moves onto there, or drop it.

    Latios
    lv 50 (battle tower pokemon)
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    Psychic
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Calm Mind / Dragon Claw
    Yeah let's stick with that.

    Milotic
    lv 31 (training)
    Surf
    Hypnosis
    Ice Beam
    Recover
    It better be Bold natured or it's not worth training at all.

    this is my team for ingame battling...Ruby
    I noe 4 of em are 4x/2x weak to ice but im the dragon loving trainer type. Rayquaza kills glacia with a one hit KO shockwave before she does anything anyways
    dont put Groudon in there Please i beg u people...
    i dont have it and it pains me to hear it. i was such an idiot that i ran from it. (cant help it can i? ruby was the first ever pokemon game i played.)
    Well, since you're playing Ruby Version, I couldn't come up with that many attacks. The Flygon Moveset, is only obtainable with the aide of FR/LG or Emerald, therefore, if you don't have either of those games, then Flygon needs to be dropped.

    And if you're into Dragons that much, put a Kingdra on your team. He actually has slightly decent Defenses, and he's only weak to Dragon Type attacks, which aren't very common in R/S anyway.
     
    I'd suggest a Kingdra as well, something like this:


    Kingdra(M)@ Leftovers
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    -Rain Dance
    -Surf
    -Ice Beam
    -Toxic
     
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    More like Modest. Rain Dance Kingdra doesn't need Speed at all.

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    im not playing VBA
    i cant trade to get Kingdra but i would like to have one, nor can i trade with my Lg/E since iv only got 1 gba.
    i dont noe where u can even get dragon scale anyways.

    My rayquaza has shockwave anyways so thunderbolt is un-needed. i think it also has high sp def/def or high sp.attack/attack (its either 1 of 4 or 2 of 4). But if flygon has earthquake, than flamethrower is okay, no?

    The latios moveset is wonderful, my current moveset for it sucks like hell.
    im not sure if i have calm mind or not, i might have but i cant remember. i put dragon claw on flygon since it doesn't learn dragon claw.

    Milotic: where do u get hypnosis?
    Salamence: does it learn dragon dance by leveling up?
    Aerial ace: either rayquaza/salamence learns it by leveling up otherwise i only have 1 aerial ace

    i used to have a friend to trade with, sadly i did not know where to get dragon scale so i missed my chance to get kingdra.
     
    Okay, I just wanna say that nobody can ever get off saying that just because a Pokemon has Shockwave, even if that Pokemon so happens to be Rayquaza, it means that it can replace Thunderbolt. Thunderbolt is a purchaseable TM from the Game Corner for a cheap 4000 coins.


    First of all, please understand. Shockwave's AP is only 60 with never-miss accuracy. Thunderbolt has 95 AP with 100% accuracy (equal to Shockwave's when not hindered by Evasion-increasing or accuracy-decreasing moves).

    Second of all, Rayquaza is an UBER; ALL its stats are ridiculously high.

    Flygon MUST have Earthquake. And if it's got Adamant for nature, then you'd enjoy having Fire Blast instead.

    It's a sad Latios if you already used your Calm Mind TM. If you can't use Calm Mind anymore, then stick with Dragon Claw. But as I can see, you don't have Dragon Claw anymore, and you used it on a Pokemon that didn't need it at all, which is all the more sad. No Calm Mind or Dragon Claw on Latios means that you can stick Safeguard there. You could still keep Dragonbreath imo, since Latios has great SAtk to accompany it. Though not as nice as Dragon Claw, it could still do some damage. Plus, a paralysis chance could let you have a bit of fun.

    For Feebas to learn Hypnosis, breed a female Psyduck with a Male Spinda that knows Hypnosis. The offspring Psyduck should now have Hypnosis. Once you get a male offspring Psyduck, breed that with a female Feebas or Milotic and the offspring will know Hypnosis.

    Bagon learns Dragon Dance from breeding with an Altaria, Gyarados, or Horsea.

    Screw Rayquaza learning Aerial Ace. Teach it to Salamence.

    You can get Dragon Scale from stealing it from wild Horsea. There is a 5% chance that it is holding one. Just like how you can steal a Sun Stone from wild Solrock.
     
    It's a sad Latios if you already used your Calm Mind TM. If you can't use Calm Mind anymore, then stick with Dragon Claw. But as I can see, you don't have Dragon Claw anymore, and you used it on a Pokemon that didn't need it at all, which is all the more sad. No Calm Mind or Dragon Claw on Latios means that you can stick Safeguard there. You could still keep Dragonbreath imo, since Latios has great SAtk to accompany it. Though not as nice as Dragon Claw, it could still do some damage. Plus, a paralysis chance could let you have a bit of fun.

    Actually, Latios doesn't need Calm Mind as badly as Latias because it has a higher SAtk. A non-CM Latios would still work well with

    Dragon Claw/Psychic
    Thunderbolt/Thunder
    Ice Beam
    Recover

    Seriously, though, Dragonbreath has no use anywhere. I don't know why you persist to clinging to that pathetic excuse for a move, but please stop doing it. 60 Power and virtually no super effecitve hits on a sweeper is completely pointless. xP If you don't get Dragon Claw then Psychic or (If, for some bizarre reason, you don't get that either) Luster Purge, but never EVER Dragonbreath. -.-
     
    Well, with a base SAtk of 130 and 30% chance of paralysis, Latios could do nice with Dragonbreath. Honestly though, I don't pack it for the power. It's the status that I'm after whenever I choose to have Dragonbreath. I only put them on Dragons of course for the STAB. If you ever caught me putting it on anything else, though, THAT'S the time that I bang my head against the wall, screaming "Oh, God WHY didn't I listen to Alter_Ego??!!"

    Heheheh...
     
    Latios gets a 30% para-rate from Thunder, which also helps it against bulky waters (the most common Ice Beam-packing pokes) so Dragonbreath is still pointless. Besides, if it's just the paralysis you want then go with Thunder Wave. It has a 100% para-rate, and both are better than Dragonbreath. Anyway, why would you not want to go for power with Latios' awesome Speed and SAtk? :O
     
    Latios' awesome Speed and SAtk?

    Dont forget horrible Sp. Def also ;D

    speaking of Latios

    - Calm Mind (got to have it for the Sp. Def)
    - Ice Beam
    - Recover
    - Psychic/Thunderbolt
    Item: Soul Dew

    Still new to this

    :t354:~*!*~Queen Boo~*!*~
     
    Dont forget horrible Sp. Def also ;D
    Yeah 110 Base SDef sounds pretty horrible doesn't it o.O
    That SDef helps him last, it's his Physical Defense that's below average (80 Base).

    And on a side note, he isn't getting Soul Dew unless he's going to AR/Shark it in.
     
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