Rate this FireRed version team

[~Night]

Is this a good team?

Rayquaza lv.70 :t384:
Extermaspeed
Outrage
Fly
Rest

Groudon lv.72:t383:
Cut
Fire Blast
Fissure
Solarbeam

Swampert lv.48:t260:
Dive
Surf
Muddy Water
Waterfall

Kyogre lv.71:t382:
Hydro Pump
Rest
Sheer Cold
Double-Edge

Pidgeot lv.43:t018:
Quick Attack
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Featherdance

Mew lv.10
Pound
Transform

Can you also rate this Emerald version team?

Charizard lv.100
Flamethrower
Ember
Fly
Firespin

Mew lv.14
Pound
Transform
Fly

Charizard lv. 99
Flamethrower
Ember
Fly
Firespin

Crobat lv.50
Poison Fang
Wing Attack
Air Cutter
Fly

 

[Taemin]

Try posting that here: https://www.theud.com/pokecommunity/forumdisplay.php?f=12

Thats the game forum.

 

[Sylphiel]

New Users/Welcome is only for making welcome posts, not for posting teams; those belong in the forum that Drew mentioned, so...

-moves-

 

[jc_rcw]

Is this a good team?

Rayquaza lv.70 :t384:
Extermaspeed
earthquake
dragon dance
rock slide/aerial ace

Groudon lv.72:t383:
earthquake
swords dance
rockslide
thunder wave/overheat

Swampert lv.48:t260:
Surf
earthquake
ice beam
curse/protect

Kyogre lv.71:t382:
Calm mind
surf
thunder
ice beam/substitute

Pidgeot lv.43:t018:
aerial ace
steel wing
return/double edge
quick attack

Arbok lv.45:t024:
earthquake
sludge bomb
rock slide
glare/leer

Btw don't use 2 or more moves of the same type on 1 pokemon ei: surf, waterfall, and dive.

 

[shanecdavis]

Since you are new, I will give you a few pointers before I address your team.

- NEVER give a Poke more than one attacking move of the same type. That is redundant and limits the effectiveness of your Poke. Swampert is a perfect example. You gave it FOUR Water moves. You have Surf, and then 3 crappier moves that Surf is better than. I will get more into that later.

- NEVER give a Poke a crappy two-turn move like Hyper Beam or Fly. Attacking twice with a lesser power move will end up doing more damage than one attack that takes two turns.

- NEVER give a Poke a crappy OHKO move like Fissure, and especially don't waste another slot on a move that will make the crappy Fissure move hit. You just turned that into a two-turn move and you can refer to the above.

- NEVER give a Poke any HM that isn't called Surf. The rest are complete crap and shouldn't be used on of your team. That is what an HM slave is for. Get a crappy Poke that you rarely use, throw some HMs on it, and pull it out of the PC when you need to.

Now, on to your team. Fixes in bold:

Is this a good team?

Rayquaza lv.70 :t384:
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Extremespeed/Brick Break
- Rock Slide

Just so you know, the movesets you get on Rayquaza/Groudon/Kyogre simply suck. They are plain awful. A Rayquaza with Outrage and Fly is a very sad Rayquaza. Rayquaza has the perfect mix of Atk and SAtk, but I prefer a physical moveset with Choice Band since it can do some serious damage to any Poke with it. BB comes in handy, but attacking first with a boosted Extremespeed is a killer.

Groudon lv.72:t383:
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

Best Poke in the game. Never use Normal attacks on non-Normal Pokes. Also don't use Solarbeam on Groudon. Not good. Its Ability is more for cutting Water attacks by 50% than using SB. Groudon is a physical attacker. Get a SD going and it blows through just about anything. Again, just say NO!!!!!! to Fissure. EQ is much better.

Swampert lv.48:t260:
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest/Curse/Protect
- Surf

Ugh. Four Water moves. Such a waste. Swampert learns EQ naturally at Lv52. You can either breed for Curse, or stick with Rest. IB is really a no-brainer since Grass is its only weakness and it can handle any Grass-type in-game with it quite easily. You should really get rid of one of these first three Pokes though to make your team more well-rounded.

Kyogre lv.71:t382:
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Thunder

Ugh, another painful moveset. Kyogre should not be on the same team as Groudon. Choose one or the other and build your team around them. Why doesn't Kyogre have THUNDER???? Its Ability makes it 100% accurate. It also needs Ice Beam to help round it out and Calm Mind to boost up its already high SAtk to make this thing a terror. Just choose between Groudon and Kyogre though, seriously.

Pidgeot lv.43:t018:
Quick Attack
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Featherdance

Worst...Bird Poke...Ever. Please use Dodrio instead. Pidgeot is not worth a rate.

Arbok lv.45:t024:
Bite
Double-Edge
Strength
Acid

Arbok is not too bad, but its best used with QuakeSlide, which you already have a couple Pokes capable of doing that, and much better. Switch to something that can take special attacks like Lugia or Blissey.

 

[Lapras1016]

Is this a good team?

Rayquaza lv.70 :t384:
Extermaspeed
Outrage
Fly
Rest

Groudon lv.72:t383:
Cut
Fire Blast
Fissure
Solarbeam

Swampert lv.48:t260:
Dive
Surf
Muddy Water
Waterfall

Kyogre lv.71:t382:
Hydro Pump
Rest
Sheer Cold
Double-Edge

Pidgeot lv.43:t018:
Quick Attack
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Featherdance

Arbok lv.45:t024:
Bite
Double-Edge
Strength
Acid

Here, I'll give you some pointers. By Pokemon :p

Rayquaza - Personally, I give my Quaza a pure-physical or pure-special moveset. I never let them clash. If you have Extremespeed, don't use Outrage or whatever; use, let's say, Earthquake. If you have Outrage, you can give Quaza Flamethrower to dispose of those nasty Ice types. Personally, I make Rayquazas special-sweepers.

Groudon - Cut is a no-no. Don't use it for battling, just for convinience around the field. Replace it with Earthquake. Solarbeam's cool for Drought.

Swampert - Swampert is not meant to be a special sweeper. Also, don't give two attacks of the same type for a Pokemon unless you have no choice. Try broadening your moveset with Ice Beam to kill Grass types, or Earthquake for pure power and STAB. Maybe you could also make it a Cursing Swampert with the moveset Curse/Earthquake/Rock Slide/Hidden Power Flying or Rest. That's best for Swampert.

Kyogre - Don't use Physical Attacks on Kyogre; make it a Special Sweeper. Also, Surf is preferable over Hydro Pump, because it's more accurate and has more PP. Replace Double-Edge with either Thunder to take advantage of the Drizzle, or Calm Mind to raise special stats.

Pidgeot - Change just one move: Quick Attack, into Toxic. You can also change Wing Attack into Fly or Aerial Ace if you like. :p

Arbok - Not bad, but I don't recommend it. Try a Tank, or a defending Pokemon, like Blissey or a Regi, if you like legendaries much.

Don't use too many legendaries; it disrupts the game. Use preferably only one legendary. :p

Here, this is a recommended moveset.

RAYQUAZA with Outrage, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, Ice Beam (Bolt-beam combo rocks).
Or, you can give it a Physical Sweeping moveset: Aerial Ace, Extremespeed, Earthquake, Rock Slide

GROUDON with Earthquake, Fire Blast OR Eruption, Solarbeam, Fissure OR Brick Break

SWAMPERT with Curse, Rest, Surf, and Earthquake

KYOGRE with Surf, Calm Mind, Thunder, Sheer Cold

PIDGEOT with Aerial Ace, Toxic, Steel Wing, and Whirlwind

ARBOK with Sludge Bomb, Bite, Glare, Earthquake

That's it.

 

[jc_rcw]

WHY would you give pert hp fly, groudon eruption, solar beam, and fissure, kyogre sheercold, pidgeot toxic/whirlwind, and arbok bite ._.

 

[~Night]

Pidgeot lv.43 :t018:
Quick Attack
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Featherdance


If you think my Pidgeot is the worst pokemon ever than its actully one of my brother's favorites, he is pretty good at the games and his pidgeot is amazingly strong, I think Dodrio:t085: isn't nearly as good as Pidgeot:t018: .

 

[jc_rcw]

Trust shane, he knows about this, and in my opinion dodrio > pidgeot .-.

 

[shanecdavis]

Sorry, but I cannot let this go without commenting.

RAYQUAZA with Outrage, Thunderbolt, Fire Blast, Ice Beam (Bolt-beam combo rocks).

Don't use a crappy move like Outrage on Rayquaza. It forces you to attack twice and then causes Confusion. DC doesn't.

Or, you can give it a Physical Sweeping moveset: Aerial Ace, Extremespeed, Earthquake, Rock Slide

GROUDON with Earthquake, Fire Blast OR Eruption, Solarbeam, Fissure OR Brick Break

Fissure is not needed with Groudon already having EQ. Eruption is a crappy move anyway, since it depends on the Poke's HP. Stick with FB. Solarbeam is also a noobish move on Groudon. Its Base Atk is 150 while its SAtk is only 100. A Swords Danced EQ does as much damage to Water Pokes as a SE un-STAB Solarbeam would.

SWAMPERT with Curse, Rest, Surf, and Earthquake

KYOGRE with Surf, Calm Mind, Thunder, Sheer Cold

Don't waste a space with SC. Ice Beam is a much better option, especially if you are going to use CM.

PIDGEOT with Aerial Ace, Toxic, Steel Wing, and Whirlwind

Still too crappy to bother fixing.

ARBOK with Sludge Bomb, Bite, Glare, Earthquake

That's it.

Pidgeot lv.43 :t018:
Quick Attack
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Featherdance


If you think my Pidgeot is the worst pokemon ever than its actully one of my brother's favorites, he is pretty good at the games and his pidgeot is amazingly strong, I think Dodrio:t085: isn't nearly as good as Pidgeot:t018: .

LOL You seriously think Dodrio isn't "nearly as good" as Pidgeot???? Let me just run some things by you. First, let's compare base stats:

Pidgeot
Base HP: 83
Base Atk: 80
Base Def: 75
Base SAtk: 70
Base SDef: 70
Base Spd: 91

Dodrio
Base HP: 60
Base Atk: 110
Base Def: 70
Base SAtk: 60
Base SDef: 60
Base Spd: 100

So, as you can see, Dodrio has a much higher Atk and and a higher Spd rating, which are the only two important stats when it comes to Normal/Flying-types. While Dodrio's Atk and Spd top out at 350 and 328, respectively, Pidgeot's max Atk is only 284 and its Spd is 309.

Now let's look at movesets:

Pidgeot @ Choice Band
- Aerial Ace
- Quick Attack
- Return
- Steel Wing/HP [Ground]

Dodrio @ Choice Band
- Drill Peck
- Quick Attack
- Return
- Steel Wing/HP [Ground]

Sets are the same, except for one HUGE difference. Drill Peck. While Aerial Ace is 60 Attack Power, Drill Peck is 80 AP, and Pidgeot cannot learn it. Add that to Dodrio's much higher Atk and there is no question that Dodrio is better than Pidgeot.

 

[~Night]

Sorry, but I cannot let this go without commenting.





LOL You seriously think Dodrio isn't "nearly as good" as Pidgeot???? Let me just run some things by you. First, let's compare base stats:

Pidgeot
Base HP: 83
Base Atk: 80
Base Def: 75
Base SAtk: 70
Base SDef: 70
Base Spd: 91

Dodrio
Base HP: 60
Base Atk: 110
Base Def: 70
Base SAtk: 60
Base SDef: 60
Base Spd: 100

So, as you can see, Dodrio has a much higher Atk and and a higher Spd rating, which are the only two important stats when it comes to Normal/Flying-types. While Dodrio's Atk and Spd top out at 350 and 328, respectively, Pidgeot's max Atk is only 284 and its Spd is 309.

Now let's look at movesets:

Pidgeot @ Choice Band
- Aerial Ace
- Quick Attack
- Return
- Steel Wing/HP [Ground]

Dodrio @ Choice Band
- Drill Peck
- Quick Attack
- Return
- Steel Wing/HP [Ground]

Sets are the same, except for one HUGE difference. Drill Peck. While Aerial Ace is 60 Attack Power, Drill Peck is 80 AP, and Pidgeot cannot learn it. Add that to Dodrio's much higher Atk and there is no question that Dodrio is better than Pidgeot.

My brother has beeten dodrios the same level with his Pidgeot.Anyways, it doesn't matter how good the moves are or the defence, etc. but it matters how much it likes you. You also have to put as much heart into it as possible.

 

[jc_rcw]

That doesn't change anything btw. I can beat the E4 with shuckle, but that doesn't mean it's a good pokemon, does it?

 

[shanecdavis]

My brother has beeten dodrios the same level with his Pidgeot.Anyways, it doesn't matter how good the moves are or the defence, etc. but it matters how much it likes you. You also have to put as much heart into it as possible.

LOL Are you serious? The only benefit you will receive from having a max Happiness rating is that the move Return will be 102 AP. Now, with Dodrio having a higher Atk rating (if you read my previous post), its Return move would be stronger if both Poke had the same Happiness rating. Actually, Dodrio could have a lower rating and still do more damage than Pidgeot could. I have already listed how Dodrio is stronger than Pidgeot. If you refuse to believe the facts, that is your choice. It still doesn't change the fact that Dodrio is the strongest Normal/Flying Poke in the game.

BTW - Beating an AI Dodrio doesn't mean anything, as the in-game AI is VERY pathetic and geared so a 6-year could beat the game. If you were to battle against someone who actually knew how to play, you would see the pure power of Dodrio.

BTW II - Heart has NOTHING to do with Pokemon, unless you are talking about Heart Scales or the crappy Luvdisc.

 

[~Night]

LOL Are you serious? The only benefit you will receive from having a max Happiness rating is that the move Return will be 102 AP. Now, with Dodrio having a higher Atk rating (if you read my previous post), its Return move would be stronger if both Poke had the same Happiness rating. Actually, Dodrio could have a lower rating and still do more damage than Pidgeot could. I have already listed how Dodrio is stronger than Pidgeot. If you refuse to believe the facts, that is your choice. It still doesn't change the fact that Dodrio is the strongest Normal/Flying Poke in the game.

BTW - Beating an AI Dodrio doesn't mean anything, as the in-game AI is VERY pathetic and geared so a 6-year could beat the game. If you were to battle against someone who actually knew how to play, you would see the pure power of Dodrio.

I don't care about the move return!Return doesn't do anything special!Frusteration is even better, but that has nothing to do with it.Anyways, sometimes evolved forms aren't so good Doduo is even better that Dodrio, but Pidgeot is even better than both!:shocked:

LOL Are you serious? The only benefit you will receive from having a max Happiness rating is that the move Return will be 102 AP. Now, with Dodrio having a higher Atk rating (if you read my previous post), its Return move would be stronger if both Poke had the same Happiness rating. Actually, Dodrio could have a lower rating and still do more damage than Pidgeot could. I have already listed how Dodrio is stronger than Pidgeot. If you refuse to believe the facts, that is your choice. It still doesn't change the fact that Dodrio is the strongest Normal/Flying Poke in the game.

BTW - Beating an AI Dodrio doesn't mean anything, as the in-game AI is VERY pathetic and geared so a 6-year could beat the game. If you were to battle against someone who actually knew how to play, you would see the pure power of Dodrio.

How do you know what the strongest bird pokemon is, you don't even have any proof!Anyways, I don't care about the move return!Return doesn't do anything special!Frusteration is even better, but that has nothing to do with it.Anyways, sometimes evolved forms aren't so good Doduo is even better that Dodrio, but Pidgeot is even better than both!

 

[Alter Ego]

How do you know what the strongest bird pokemon is, you don't even have any proof!

Yes he does:

Pidgeot
Base HP: 83
Base Atk: 80
Base Def: 75
Base SAtk: 70
Base SDef: 70
Base Spd: 91

Dodrio
Base HP: 60
Base Atk: 110
Base Def: 70
Base SAtk: 60
Base SDef: 60
Base Spd: 100

These are base statlines which determine how good the stats of a pokémon can become. Now unless you're as clueless about mathematics as you are about pokémon you will see that Dodrio trumps Pidgeot on the two stats that are most important for both: Speed and Attack. Dodrio also has a better movepool because of Drill Peck (Which he also pointed out. <.<)

Anyways, I don't care about the move return!Return doesn't do anything special!Frusteration is even better, but that has nothing to do with it.

Lol, only if you're a loser who is incapable of maxing out a pokémon's happiness (Which handily contradicts your earlier statement). Return is special because it's the strongest non-drawback normal move around. Technically Frustration can get equally strong, but to do that you'd have to keep your pokémon miserable by making it lose battles or feeding it bitter medicine and for any good player that is just pointless effort compared to the free benefit of happiness (Gained from leveling up and winning important battles among other things). Frustration is for those who fail, Return for those who don't.

Anyways, sometimes evolved forms aren't so good Doduo is even better that Dodrio, but Pidgeot is even better than both!

There is so much wrong in what you just said. Actually, nearly all evolved forms in the three first generations are better than their earlier forms, and as a rule final forms tend to be the best. Trapinch trumps Vibrava in usefulness because of 'Arena Trap' and its higher Attack stat, but both are still trumped by Flygon. I suppose you can debate Scyther and Scizor, but even that is kind of lol, like your arguments. You accuse Shane of not having evidence (Even though he does) and at the same time you make wild (and utterly incorrect) knowledge claims about things you obviously don't understand. Not to mention that you do it with trozei smilies and crappy grammar. Really, haven't you made enough of a fool of yourself already? Just pack it in.

 

[Lord Mike]

Ah, long time its been. Bad serve for months...

Anyway, they're right. Screw friendship unless you're using return. I'm too lazy to repeat what they just said and I don't have the time either, so learn that DODRIO > PIDGEOT.

Do you speak French? >:o

 

[n3croart]

Is this a good team?

Rayquaza lv.70 :t384:
Earthquake
Rockslide
Aerial Ace
Dragon Dance

Groudon lv.72:t383:
Rockslide
Overheat
Earthquake
Swords Dance

Standard set.

Swampert lv.48:t260:
Curse
Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake

Kyogre lv.71:t382:
Surf
Thunder
Ice Beam
Calm Mind

This is good, I used this set on NB and it rocks!

Pidgeot lv.43:t018:
Quick Attack
Whirlwind
Wing Attack
Featherdance

Try Dotrio.

Mew lv.10
Pound
Transform

Changes in Bold. Mew with two moves, Lol.

 

[Dingbat]

Char-char; you ARE aware that playing the Pokémon games isn't like the animé, right?

 

[Lord Mike]

O! Someone got owned!

And, once again, I think this a complete gimmick...

 

[n3croart]

My brother has beeten dodrios the same level with his Pidgeot.Anyways, it doesn't matter how good the moves are or the defence, etc. but it matters how much it likes you. You also have to put as much heart into it as possible.

Ahh, it doesn`t work like that. It`s a video game, maybe all your brother`s wins were just pure luck. It happens. Pidgeot? Dodrio is more faster, better moves, speed is great and it can rape Pidgeot.