relicath

shadow_ki6

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    whats a good build
    mine is

    impish nature
    ev 252def, 128hp, 12? atk
    ability; rock head
    moves;
    double-edge
    rest
    sleep talk
    head smash

    please help
     
    I'm no expert on Relicanth,but Double Edge should be replaced with something else.Maybe Water
    Pulse or Stone Edge.
     
    if you are trying to use it as a physical wall, then you could go with:

    Relicanth @ Leftovers
    Impish/Relaxed Nature
    252 HP/164 DEF/92 ATK
    Ability: Rock Head
    -Head Smash
    -Waterfall/Surf
    -Stealth Rock/Calm Mind/Amnesia/Protect
    -Yawn/Protect

    resttalk is not good on relicanth because of its X4 grass weakness, as well as its common weakness of electric, ground, and fighting. with this set, you can either use it for basic physical set with waterfal + stealth rock + yawn/protect. you can also use calm mind to boost its special stats as well for surf so that it has a chance against other physical walls like hippowdown/skarmory/donphan and for becoming a good offensive wall even against special sweepers. amnesia is an option if you're worried about special sweepers.

    if you want to go for a physical sweeper, you can give it Choice Band:

    Relicanth @ Choice Band
    Adamant Nature
    252 ATK/252 HP/4 SPD
    Ability: Rock Head
    -Head Smash
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Stealth Rock/Yawn/Rain Dance

    stealth rock/yawn/rain daince are options for using the move and switchout. all strategic. rain dance is an especially nice one since you can switch relicanth out, bring something else in, and then bring relicanth out for the boost of Waterfall.

    if you want to have a physical sweeping relicanth but do not want to have to bother with choice band, you can try the following set:

    Relicanth @ Liechi Berry/Life Orb
    Adamant Nature
    252 ATK/32 HP/224 SPD
    Ability: Rock Head/Swift Swim
    -Head Smash/Stone Edge
    -Waterfall
    -Earthquake
    -Rock Polish/Rain Dance

    the combos are rock head + head smash + waterfall + eq + rock polish and the other is swift swim + stone edge + waterfall + eq + rain dance. i know everyone prefers rock head, but swift swim does have an advantage. not only does it double relicanth's speed, but it also boosts Waterfall's power by an additional 50%. while Head Smash has a 225 BP with STAB but 80 accuracy, Waterfall has 100% acc, 20% flinch and 160 BP. also, Waterfall being a water type move is more threatening to a lot of pokes. with Rain Dance up, Waterfall would 2HKO blissey.
     
    cool thnx
    i lyk ur swift-swimming relicanth

    now wats a good build for GLACEON
     
    Was gonna say the same thing, but umbreon fails in 4th gen too with all the physical sweepers running about with cross chop and close combat...any other questions?
     
    Vaporeon@LEftovers
    Bold
    I fail at EVs for EVlutions...bad joke, I know
    ~Baton Pass
    ~Substitute/Acid Armor
    ~Surf
    ~Ice Beam/Acid Armor

    Off the top of my head really, but one of the best water absorbers IMO.
     
    thanx alot for saving me the time....i was just about to good ev train one XD....

    may i ask what pokemon is great at begining a special sweeper ...i got too many physical ones already

    ps i dont like baton bassing teams sry
     
    Ah, special sweeper...

    Specsmence@Cspecs
    Modest/timid
    252 SpA, 252 Speed, 6 HP
    ~Dragon Pulse
    ~Draco Meteor
    ~Hydro pump
    ~Flamethrower

    Gengar@Wide Lens
    Modest/timid
    same as specsmence
    ~Hypnosis
    ~Focus Blast
    ~Thunderbolt
    ~Shadow Ball

    Porygon Z@Cscarf
    Modest
    Same as specsmence...
    ~Tri Attack
    ~Dark Pulse
    ~Thunderbolt
    ~Ice Beam

    Starmie@Life Orb/Lefties/Choice Specs
    Timid/modest
    same as specsmence...again
    ~Rapid spin/grass knot/psychic
    ~Thunderbolt
    ~Ice Beam
    ~Surf

    Those are a few off the top of my head. Zam and magmortar work too...
     
    shadow_ki6 said:
    thanx alot for saving me the time....i was just about to good ev train one XD....

    may i ask what pokemon is great at begining a special sweeper     ...i got too many physical ones already

    ps i dont like baton bassing teams sry
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    Well:

    Porygon @:Choice Scarf
    Trait: Adapitibility
    Modest Nature
    Tri Attack
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Nasty Plot. Great pokemon overall.

    Underused:

    Roserade @:Focus Sash
    Trait: Natural Cure
    Modest Nature
    Sleep Powder
    Synthsis
    Grass Knot
    Sludge Bomb. Meh.

    ** Specsmence (Salamence). @:Choice Specs
    Trait: Intimidate
    Modest Nature
    Hydro Pump
    Flamethrower
    Draco Meteor
    Dragon Pulse.

    Gengar @: Wide Lens
    Trait: Levitate
    Timid Nature
    Substitute
    Focus Punch
    Thunderbolt
    Hypnosis. I prefer this myself.

    Starmie @: Focus Sash
    Trait: Natural Cure
    Timid Nature
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Grass Knot
    Surf. There is a wide pool of sp. sweepers to choose from. Edit: omg, Anti beat me.
     
    Itachi Uchiha said:
    Well:

    Porygon @:Choice Scarf
    Trait: Adapitibility
    Modest Nature
    Tri Attack
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Nasty Plot. Great pokemon overall.

    Underused:

    Roserade @:Focus Sash
    Trait: Natural Cure
    Modest Nature
    Sleep Powder
    Synthsis
    Grass Knot
    Sludge Bomb. Meh.

    ** Specsmence (Salamence). @:Choice Specs
    Trait: Intimidate
    Modest Nature
    Hydro Pump
    Flamethrower
    Draco Meteor
    Dragon Pulse.

    Gengar @: Wide Lens
    Trait: Levitate
    Timid Nature
    Substitute
    Focus Punch
    Thunderbolt
    Hypnosis. I prefer this myself.

    Starmie @: Focus Sash
    Trait: Natural Cure
    Timid Nature
    Ice Beam
    Thunderbolt
    Grass Knot
    Surf. There is a wide pool of sp. sweepers to choose from. Edit: omg, Anti beat me.
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    No no Itachi! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! :P

    Porygon-Z with Nasty Plot and Choice Scarf sounds weird, eh?

    Gengar needs Focus Sash/Life Orb :)

    Roserades without Extrasensory are walled by ANY Poison types, like mr. Weezing. It doesnt need Synthesis

    Fire Blast on Salamence :)

    Starmie MAY want Rapid Spin but its fine :)

    Otherwise good job
     
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    thanx alot im gonna go with starmie, salamence, and porygon-z


    um one more qestion...
    what 3 pkmn is good to put in my team if i already have porygon-z, salamence and starmie
     
    shadow_ki6 said:
    thanx alot im gonna go with starmie, salamence, and porygon-z


    um one more qestion...
    what 3 pkmn is good to put in my team if i already have porygon-z, salamence and starmie
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    Wall, and Physical sweepers.. since you already have like 2 Sp Sweepers, make Salamence mixed ?_?

    Salamence@Focus Sash
    Trait: Intimidate
    EV's: 132ATK / 122SAK / 252SPD
    Moves:
    - Fire Blast
    - Dragon Claw/Dragon Rush(But low acc T_T)
    - Dragon Dance
    - Earthquake
     
    Name said:
    No no Itachi! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! :P

    Porygon-Z with Nasty Plot and Choice Scarf sounds weird, eh?
    Gengar needs Focus Sash/Life Orb :)

    Roserades without Extrasensory are walled by ANY Poison types. It doesnt need Synthesis

    Fire Blast on Salamence :)

    Starmie MAY want Rapid Spin but its fine :)

    Otherwise good job[/QUOTE]

    Oh yeah. I wasn't thinking. Thanks for noticing the typo, and the underlined compliement. Otherwise, Good Rapid Spinner is: Btw, 3 sweepers on your team is a big no-no.

    Claydol @: Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    Bold Nature
    Rest
    Rapid Spin
    Ice beam
    Reflect. Sp.wall plus Rapid Spinner is a nice one.
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    would shuckle be a good wall?
     
    Garchomp makes a good Physical Sweeper as well
    Choice Band/Scarf Lucario
    Taunt DDos

    Check Shuckles base HP.... it's only like 20... so its horrible :P It can only take a few hits
     
    Itachi Uchiha said:
    Name said:
    No no Itachi! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! :P

    Porygon-Z with Nasty Plot and Choice Scarf sounds weird, eh?
    Gengar needs Focus Sash/Life Orb :)

    Roserades without Extrasensory are walled by ANY Poison types. It doesnt need Synthesis

    Fire Blast on Salamence :)

    Starmie MAY want Rapid Spin but its fine :)

    Otherwise good job[/QUOTE]

    Oh yeah. I wasn't thinking. Thanks for noticing the typo, and the underlined compliement. Otherwise, Good Rapid Spinner is: Btw, 3 sweepers on your team is a big no-no.

    Claydol @: Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    Bold Nature
    Rest
    Rapid Spin
    Ice beam
    Reflect. Sp.wall plus Rapid Spinner is a nice one.
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    Consider this. But yeah, Shuckle is a great wall. cept' for the hp. =/

    Shuckle @:Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    Bold/Relaxed Nature
    Rest
    Gyro Ball
    Toxic
    Encore. Double Team, I don't like banned moves. :P.
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    i was thinking about

    sandstorm, double-team, toxic, rest
    for my shuckle....damn its gonna be hard to ev train
     
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