Revamping an old fave...

[Ársa]

Introduction:

This is a Plat revamp of my old DP team that peaked on the shoddy ladder last year. I don't intend it to be as good as the original, because the way the metagame has changed it's even harder to cover all threats. Because of this, I need help from you regular S&M'rs as to what needs fixing/tweaking. I'm sure there are some large holes in this, so any help is appreciated.

Overview:

*pokemonelite2000 image removed*"image removed"*pokemonelite2000 image removed**pokemonelite2000 image removed**pokemonelite2000 image removed**pokemonelite2000 image removed*

Team:

- - -
"image removed"
Celebi@Leftovers
Timid
76 HP / 252 SpA / 180 Spe
Stealth Rock
Leaf Storm
Earth Power
U-turn

Stole the set from Smogon. U-turn or Stealth Rock depending on the situation. Leaf Storm and Earth Power for general coverage and hitting. Not sure about it leading.

- - -
"image removed"
Gyarados@Life Orb
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Earthquake
Stone Edge

DD LO Gyara > My (even more than usual) Bulkydos set.

- - -
"image removed"
Heatran@Leftovers
Timid
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Substitute
Toxic

Topping out the GyaraTranBi Trio that was so effective in my original team. Switches into Fire attacks aimed at Celebi/Scizor. Subs on switches when opponents expect a Scarfer, Toxic helps then to whittle down whatever is switched in. (Vappy etc)

- - -
"image removed"
Scizor@Choice Band
Adamant
248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Technician
U-turn
Bullet Punch
Superpower
Pursuit

Just wanted to try it. So far has done fairly well, U-turn has been handy on predicted switches.

- - -
"image removed"
Gengar@Choice Scarf
Modest
4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Will-o-Wisp
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast / Hidden Power Ice

Over Zam *cry*. WoW cripples the likes of Luke and TTar, and gives my team some much needed speed.

- - -
*pokemonelite2000 image removed*
Blissey@Leftovers
Calm
252 Def / 216 SpD / 40 SpA
Natural Cure
Wish
Flamethrower
Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss

Obligatory special wall. Wish support gives Gyarados and Celebi a hand after their switching through resistences. T-Wave is needed, always comes in handy.

- - -

Original Team:

Spoiler:

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=147741

 

[StrickeN]

One thing i noticed pretty quick was that Gyara wants Stone Edge > Ice Fang. Simply for other gyarados.

I'll stop by later for more detailed rate

 

[Dark Azelf]

Timid on Heatran, you have no special move.

You might want Flamethrower >> Ice Beam on Bliss, its much more useful imo. Especially since Scizor is coming in every time to Putsuit you once it finds out you dont have it. Also hits Lucario, Meta, Hera etc switch ins hard.

Not sure i like Wish without protect or Softboiled, the damage racks up quickly and they will switch to a physical sweeper on your wish and you will be unable to heal your bliss due to having to switch out constantly. So yeah =/

Gyara and Mence weak, badly. In addition your team is really slow, you could scarf Zam or replace it with actually preferably Scarf Gar, i know, but just hear me out. Use will-o-wisp/s-ball/f-blast/t-bolt, its hilarious to burn Metagross, Scizor, Zong, Tar etc switch ins/"checks" besides S-Ball, SR + Bullet Punch destroy mence anyway so yeah. This would also help deal with DD Tar (Babiri variants especially) along with your Scizor, who really does melt you.

I know Encore is a great move and your team is based around it but you really need a check against aformentioned threats. Besides toxic sub tran + gyara open up sweeps without the need of Encore anyway.

On and you want more speed on Scizor, getting outrun by cress is really annoying lol =/

Just some things to consider here.

 

[Ársa]

Wish has been EXTREMELY handy in recent battles. It's not so much for Bliss as for the others. Gyarados and Celebi switching through resistences means they're getting whittled down, and it really does help. Ice Beam was mainly for CB Duggy, seeing as it's my only special wall, once it's gone ScarfTran practically runs through me. I'll give Flamethrower I try though.

And as much as I hate to admit it, Gengar could go over Zam. :(