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kintar

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    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shell Armor
    EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Spikes
    - Surf

    Steelix (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 100 Atk / 16 Def / 4 Spd / 136 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Roar
    - Rock Slide

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 48 HP / 240 Spd / 220 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Rest
    - Thunder Wave
    - Thunderbolt

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Haze
    - Ice Beam
    - Surf
    - Wish

    Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 100 HP / 136 Atk / 136 Def / 136 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Rest
    - Return
    - Sleep Talk

    Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Blaze
    EVs: 216 Atk / 192 Spd / 100 SAtk
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Fire Blast
    - Rock Slide
    - Sky Uppercut
    - Swords Dance
     
    Cloyster (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Shell Armor
    EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SDef
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Ice Beam
    - Rapid Spin
    - Spikes
    - Surf

    More Defense EV's because it's not like Cloyster is going to survive any Special Attacks anyways. I mean, really, it gets 3HKO'ed by Surf, and it's a Water Pokemon. I like Explosion on my Cloyster, but it's preference.

    Steelix (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP / 100 Atk / 16 Def / 4 Spd / 136 SDef
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Explosion
    - Roar
    - Rock Slide

    Just throw those 4 Speed EV's into Defense. Also, take some of the SDef and put those in Defense also because it's after all meant to be a Wall.

    Zapdos @ Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    EVs: 48 HP / 240 Spd / 220 SAtk
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Rest
    - Thunder Wave
    - Thunderbolt

    Zapdos with Rest and no Sleep Talk is a little bit random. This is the standard Zapdos Moveset, so I would just throw Substitute over Rest unless you want to use Sleep Talk over Thunder Wave.

    Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Haze
    - Ice Beam
    - Surf
    - Wish

    So I heard you have BoltBeam weak? I don't like Haze on Vaporeon, so I would go with like, Baton Pass or something.

    Snorlax (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 100 HP / 136 Atk / 136 Def / 136 SDef
    Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Rest
    - Return
    - Sleep Talk

    ITS GOOOOOD

    Blaziken (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Blaze
    EVs: 216 Atk / 192 Spd / 100 SAtk
    Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
    - Fire Blast
    - Rock Slide
    - Sky Uppercut
    - Swords Dance

    Use CB Blaziken for everlasting justice.
     
    The point of SDef EVs on Cloyster is that things that were 1-2HKOs on the special side are now 2-3HKOs, which makes a huge difference in the time it takes to get spikes down. Even things like Celebi Psychic is now a 3HKO without a CM down, which gives Cloyster a bit more time to Explode if it has it. The difference between damage from having about 60 Def EVs to around 180 EVs (iirc) is about 3-6% from most neutral attacks anyway.
     
    I'm going to keep Cloyster and Steelix the way they are.
    I'm considering using Salamence over Zapdos.
    Why CB Blaziken?

    And is my team weak to anything? It doesn't look like it, but unlike my previous teams, this new team keeps getting owned.
     
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    CB Blaziken just hits things harder since it's not going to be staying in much.

    Heracross lols at this team. Your two physical walls are both weak to Fighting, Zapdos gets 2KOed by Megahorn since it has like no defense, and Blaziken can't outrun it without +Spd.

    Salamence can give you some defense against its STAB moves, but CBCross is keen on predicting with Rock Slide as well.


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    What does counter Heracross though? Everything seems to take too much damage from it.
     
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    Weezing does a mighty fine job. Dusclops kinda (can protect your Spikes too).

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    Imo lead with zappy, since most people lead with it aswell and forces you to switch out first turn. (unless you like that.)
     
    I should mention a note about Defensive EVs in my guide?
     
    Another important piece of info to know about HP EVs is how they relate to your walls and tanks. Health accounts for most of your defenses, so the more HP you have, less you need to put into your Defense EVs, and the better your pokemon can tank or wall. Skarmory is a prime example. At first, a standard EV spread included 196 HP EVs for a max lefties point, putting the rest in Defense, Attack, and Speed. CBed Fighting types started to hurt it more until a solution was found to give Skamory 252 HP EVs, and easily walls physical attacks better than it could before. Some walls, however, require max HP just becase their base HP stat is pitiful, like Cloyster or Dusclops.

    That one?

    Well actually that was my post but you made that particular guide xd.
     
    Nah, something about SDef on Cloyster.
     
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