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    Hitmontop @leftovers (special wall/Rapid Spinner)
    Technician
    careful: 252hp 174 sp def. 84 atk
    rapid spin
    mach punch
    aerial ace
    pursuit/substitute

    Weavile @life orb (physical sweeper)
    jolly: 252 atk, 252 spd 6 hp
    night slash
    ice punch
    brick break
    aerial ace

    Togekiss@leftovers (annoyer/semi-sweeper)
    serene grace
    Timid: 252spatk 152 spdef 106spd
    air slash
    aura sphere
    thunder wave
    roost

    Gengar @ Wide lens (special sweeper)
    Timid
    252 Satk/252 Spd/6 Hp
    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast
    Energy Ball

    Milotic@burn orb (mixed wall)
    Bold: 150 hp 240 def 120 Satk
    hypnosis
    recover
    ice beam
    surf

    yes i know...blah blah blah restalking is better, etc. im going to experiment for myself. so dont even mention the milotic unless its about the EVs

    Steelix @ macho brace (physical wall)
    Relaxed
    252 hp, 172 def. 86 atk (bred with crappy speed IVs)
    stealth rock
    roar/ explosion
    EQ
    gyro ball

    make any suggestions needed, thanks in advance
     
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    Nice team. Just a couple of things:

    1) Never use a non-attacking move on a Choice Item pokemon. You have that powerful Gengar but after Hypnosis his amazing power goes to waste. If you want to keep Hypnosis, try Life Orb or Wise Glasses.

    2) You are the 2nd person I've had to say this to. Gyro Ball's power is based on your oppnent's speed and not your own. At least according to serebii.net.

    3) Wish over Roost is an option on Togekiss, to give your team some extra support.

    4) Your Milotic. Try Rest...lol joke. I'd recomment giving more EVs into Sp. Def as Marvel Scale boost Def anyway.

    Other than those points, though, your team is pretty solid.
     
    to correct you, Ed, gyro ball is dependent of BOTH your, and your opponent's speed. this is the calculation: the base power of gyro ball= 25 x (target speed/user speed). so to inflict max damage and ideal results for example, steelix vs. high speed (aka ninjask, weavile, etc.)= huge damage

    hmm. gengar isnt supposed to have choice specs. thank you for bringing that to my attention. i copied and pasted that list here from MS word, must hvae forgotten to change item when i decided to use hypnosis: its supposed to be wide lens (for hypnosis and focus blast)
     
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    Naos said:
    Hitmontop @leftovers (special wall/Rapid Spinner)
    Technician
    careful: 252hp 164 sp def. 72 atk
    rapid spin
    Earthquake
    Agility
    Endeavor

    It should be able to last a turn for Agility. Then it turns into a great(or average) sweeper.

    Weavile @Focus sash
    jolly: 252 atk, 252 spd, 6 hp
    night slash
    ice punch
    brick break
    Swords Dance

    Togekiss@leftovers (annoyer/semi-sweeper)
    serene grace
    Timid: 252spatk 172 SDEF/80 SPEED
    air slash
    aura sphere
    thunder wave
    roost

    Gengar @ Wide Lens
    Timid
    252 SAtk/252 Spd/4 Hp
    Hypnosis
    Shadow Ball
    Focus Blast
    Thunderbolt

    NEVER use Choice Items with attacks like Hypnosis. Or you'll be Hypnosising all over the opponent when its still asleep. Thunderbolt over Energyball for coverage.

    Milotic@Leftovers
    Bold: 252 HP/ 172 DEF/80 SDEF
    hypnosis
    recover
    ice beam
    surf

    Burn Orb Milo takes more damage than Restalk Milo, if u sense status, then just switch in to Milo to absorb it.

    yes i know...blah blah blah restalking is better, etc. im going to experiment for myself. so dont even mention the milotic unless its about the EVs

    Steelix @ macho brace (physical wall)
    Relaxed
    252 HP/ 172 DEF/80 ATK
    Stone Edge
    explosion
    EQ
    gyro ball

    Stealth Rock is near pointless without Roaring.

    make any suggestions needed, thanks in advance
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    Milo has a slight change XDD
     
    choice specs was a copy error from MSword. im going to experiment milotic in order to decide. experience is the best knowledge in this field. i hear roar on steelix isnt great, but i still needed stealth rock for support. (focus sash pokes are screwed by SR, spikes,etc) explosion is for those suicide bombing missions when health is low and i predict a switch to a special sweeper. the hitmontop moveset is from Samson, and i trust his judgement. milotics evs i kinda like how they are cause she needs a little sp. atk boost
     
    Naos said:
    choice specs was a copy error from MSword. im going to experiment milotic in order to decide. experience is the best knowledge in this field. i hear roar on steelix isnt great, but i still needed stealth rock for support. (focus sash pokes are screwed by SR, spikes,etc) explosion is for those suicide bombing missions when health is low and i predict a switch to a special sweeper. the hitmontop moveset is from Samson, and i trust his judgement. milotics evs i kinda like how they are cause she needs a little sp. atk boost
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    lol he said Hitmontop cuz it was cute -_-; Its a little fragile because of that horrible HP stat, its defenses are above average but might not last long. A good rapid Spinner sould stand at least 2 hits.

    Milotic serves as a special wall, not a special sweeper.
     
    i was tlaking about hte moveset he said. not why to have him. hitmontop does have other perks....steelix is a physical wall yet you give it attack....milotic doesnt need a lot of sp. atk. just a bit

    EDIT: what if i replaced persuit on hitmontop with substitute?
     
    i figured out a pretty good one on milotic:
    240 hp 102 def 104 sp def 64 sp atk

    EDIT: noticed a while ago that most of the evs i posted didnt add to 510. fixed it
     
    Milotic needs no Special Defense. Restalk Milo sucks when compared to Hypnolotic.

    Milotic with decent HP and no Sp. Def EVs can take about two unstabbed Thunderbolts.
     
    You should max out her Defenses or Milotic's staying power will be minimal.
     
    Your EV spread is getting split up amongst too many stats. Do you want a Milotic who can take more physical hits? special hits? more of a sweeper?
     
    i need it to be a little more special, but mixed to take full advantage of marvel scale, but she also needs some sp. atk (at least 40-60) to kill dragons
     
    You are basically asking for the physical wall Milotic then. Why put no Sp. Def EVs? Because Milotics base Special Defense is 125. Yet her defense is at a low 79. Without EVs in Sp. Def you can still manage 286 max. Ain't too shabby.

    Therefore Milotic needs to have a Bold Nature and max EVS and perfect IVs to achieve 282 in Defense. Sounds pretty balanced right?

    Despite you wanting to Marvel Scale to activate, as a Milotic user that is rare. Most people are very cautious about using status afflictions on her.

    Milotic needs some HP investment too. A little Sp. Atk boosts her attack so she can KO Dragons.

    This is the standard spread.

    148 HP / 240 Def / 120 SpAtk

    Pretty much balanced Defense stats. Decent HP and enough firepower to KO most of the dragons types.
     
    excellent....breeding has been a pain. going for good hp, def, sp atk, sp. def. and some speed. i keep getting 25-26 ivs in atk...ergh...i need some serious luck
    Parent IVs (currently)
    Feebas@nothing
    calm
    10 hp
    25 atk
    30-31 def
    22-24 sp atk.
    9 sp def
    1 spd

    Ditto@everstone
    bold
    11 hp
    6 atk
    14 def
    11 sp atk
    30-31 sp def
    25 spd

    between the two, they haveh t stats i need...i just need luck. i guess im all set parent wise, i just need to get those 4 stats passed down and gt lucky with hp and speed.

    AWW DAMN!!! I just bred a great feebas! but the sp def sucks
    Level: 15
    hp: 20-26
    atk: 24- 29
    def: 27-31
    sp ak: 20-26
    sp def:0-3
    spd: 14-19
    (swaps out other feebas for this one)

    EDIT: crap. thread died. again
     
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