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ThePlaya

I Am The Charizard Master
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    Please Rate My Team. All advice will be appreciated and all criticism will be as well. No matter how harsh it is.But please, don't exaggerate it.:P

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    Tentacruel@Leftovers
    Nature:Calm
    Ability:Liquid Ooze
    EV Spread:252 HP, 252 Sp. Def, 4 Sp. Atk
    -Rapid Spin
    -Hydro Pump/Surf
    -Sludge bomb
    -Toxic Spikes

    This is my Lead pokemon. I set up a toxic spike that really helps me out A LOT by poisoning there pokemon and killing them slowly but fast. So when there pokemons make a switch, the pokemon that switches in gets poisoned and takes stealth rock damage.

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    Charizard@flame plate/choice specs/wise glasses
    Nature:Timid
    Ability:Blaze
    EV Spread:252 Sp. Atk, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    -Air Slash
    -Overheat
    -Flamethrower
    -Dragon Pulse

    Max IV's on Speed will match the speed of a max IV'ed non-scarfed Salamence. Hopefully KO'ing it with dragon pulse(Doubt it would in one hit though)Air Slash for those Machamps. I've ran in to several and Air Slash saves my behind. Flamethrower is well...you know. Overheat for maximum attacking power. This will do A LOT of damage(Kinda like a weaker draco meteor from salamence). Usually i have to switch out after KO'ing a pokemon with this since they will play something that resists fire, a wall, or something to KO it. So i get my Sp. Atk back when I switch him out.
    I WILL NOT CHANGE HIS MOVE SET OR TAKE HIM OUT OF THE TEAM!I just need help deciding on the item to use.....

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    Torterra@Leftovers
    Nature:Impish
    Ability:Overgrow
    EV Spread:252 HP, 127 Attack, 127 Defense
    -Stealth Rock
    -Synthesis
    -Earthquake
    -Wood Hammer

    All these moves are self explanatory.
    Thinking of replacing

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    Gyarados
    Nature:Adamant
    Ability:Intimidate
    EV Spread:252 HP, ????Sadly i forgot the rest of the ev spread
    -Waterfall
    -Dragon Dance
    -Earthquake
    -Ice Fang

    Yes, I forgot the rest of the EV spread on this beast since it was while ago that i trained it.Waterfall and dragon dance is self explanatory. I'm thinking of replacing earthquake for stone edge but then ice fang still hits what stone edge does.

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    Infernape@wide lens/muscle band/choice band
    Nature:Jolly
    Ability:Blaze
    EV Spread:252 Speed, 252 Attack, 4 HP
    -Blaze Kick/Flare Blitz
    -Close Combat
    -Stone Edge/Earthquake
    -Swords Dance/Earthquake(Replace Swords Dance with Earthquake if i run choice band)

    All these moves are slef-explanatory.

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    Blissey@leftovers
    Nature:Impish
    Ability:Natural Cure
    EV Spread:252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp. Def
    -Seismic Toss
    -Softboiled
    -Aromatherapy
    -????

    Pretty standard move set and EV spread. Really does nothing but switch it in on a Sp. Atk. Really havn't gotten a chance to use seismic toss though...Thinking of replacing

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    Slowking@leftovers
    Nature:Modest/Calm
    Ability:Own Tempo
    EV Spread:252 HP, ??????
    -Slack Off
    -Surf
    -????
    -????

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    Slowbro@leftovers
    Nature:Bold
    Ability:Own Temp
    EV Spread:252 HP, ?????
    -Slack Off
    -Surf
    -Thunderbolt
    -????

    I am thinking of replacing Blissey and Torterra with both of these. But if i do, then i will have 4 water types and 2 fire types......making me VERY vulnerable to thunder type moves since the only pokemon that will take regular damage from it is infernape. And he is in no way able to take a hit. Maybe i can change infernape for another type. I will probably also change Gyrados...but this is a very low probability.
    All help will be appreciated!:)
    Thanks in advance​
     
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    First thing I noticed is the lack of reliable physical walling. Replace either Tentacruel, Blissey, or Torterra with a reliable physical wall that can take some of the electricity. I reccomend Hippowdon, but of course, Sandstream could cause some havoc. If you use Hippowdon (as a lead please) you could use this set:

    Hippowdon @ Leftovers
    Impish
    252 HP/252 Def/6 Att
    Ice Fang
    Roar/Stealth Rock
    Earthquake
    Slack Off

    Amazing physical wall. I'd use it.


    If you want to, replace Infernape with SD Lucario (though it would benefit the team since Lucario can cover the Rock weak that Charizard AND Gyarados have, 4x resist to Tyranitar's STAB moves)

    Lucario @ Life Orb
    Adamant/Jolly
    252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP
    Close Combat
    Swords Dance
    Crunch
    Extremespeed/Bullet Punch

    Sweeps much better than Infernape.

    Tyranitar kind of messes up your team as well, though, if you replace something with Hippowdon you own him pretty much.

    So, you new team should look something like this:

    Hippowdon/Lucario/Charizard/Gyarados/Blissey/Torterra

    You could replace Torterra with a Gyarados counter, since he rampages this team excluding your own Gyarados, which you want to save. I'd get rid of Torterra and keep Tentacruel. Use your set with Toxic Spikes and replace Sludge Bomb with HP Electric (of course, if that is too hard, you could just use Starmie. Set at the end) That way Hippowdon could use Roar and offer phazing.

    Starmie @ Leftovers
    Timid
    160 HP/132 SpA/216 Spe
    Thunderbolt
    Surf
    Recover
    Rapid Spin/Ice Beam
     
    King Tar made a lot of good points there. You do need a physical wall. If you don't like Hippowdon because of Sand Stream, go with Steelix.
    I'm not a fan of choice items, and plates are pretty horrible imo, so go with wise glasses on zard.
    Bliss needs Thunder Wave. That completes ur basic set.
    I'm not a big fan of physical ape, you could go with sd luke, like tar said, or run a mixape, which i find a lot more effective.
     
    Mixape is great, but a lot of teams are prepared for it =[ Infact, it's probably the most well prepared for Pokemon in the entire metagame.

    I would rather have Life Orb on Charizard, or just use Choice Specs for sheer freakish power.
     
    Well, if you don't want to lose Zard, fine, but don't be a baby on the set. First off, Focus Blast might be a better move, but if you want to go that route, then use specs. Flame Plate is a joke item, and Life Orb beats Wise Glasses e'ry day.
     
    Hell, that's walled by Blissey. At least with Blast, you can do something to it.
     
    Well agreed. And why the hell doesn't he have Rapid Spin on Tentacreul? Is that possible with Charizard on the team?
     
    The first thing I noticed was you want Calm > Impish on Blissey.

    Thunder Wave or Ice Beam fits nicely in that last slot.

    Anyway, lack of special defense EVs on Blissey leaves you vulnerable to the viable special sweepers in 4th Gen, so you might want this spread; 40 HP | 252 Def | 216 SpD.
     
    Ok
    I have made changes to tentacruel and added rapid spin. I guess you guys are right since stealth rock has killed me many times.
    Will it be good if torterra gets replace by Slowbro??It can wall physical moves pretty good. And i like the idea of putting lucario in my team. I will be replacing the infernape for it. Can someone give me a good move-set for it(physical)??And would it be good if i ran Charizard with fire blast and focus blast with wide lens??
    Also, what would be a good replacement for Gyarados?Preferably not a water type.And i don't want hippowdon since sandstorm would ruin me.
    And would replacing blissey with Slowking a good idea?
     
    ThePlaya said:
    Ok
    I have made changes to tentacruel and added rapid spin. I guess you guys are right since stealth rock has killed me many times.
    Will it be good if torterra gets replace by Slowbro??It can wall physical moves pretty good. And i like the idea of putting lucario in my team. I will be replacing the infernape for it. Can someone give me a good move-set for it(physical)??And would it be good if i ran Charizard with fire blast and focus blast with wide lens??
    Also, what would be a good replacement for Gyarados?Preferably not a water type.And i don't want hippowdon since sandstorm would ruin me.
    And would replacing blissey with Slowking a good idea?
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    I really don't get why you would want both a slowbro and slow king on your team. It makes you really electric weak, no slowbro or slowking. Leave Blissey in there, and put a Thunder Wave in that final slot. Also, put more sp. def. EVs on Bliss, otherwise it will suffer badly from Focus Blast.
    If you want to replace Torterra, it should not be with a slowbro. Torterra may have less defense, but it is faster, and can take special hits better than slowbro.
    Charizard is fine, just put focus blast over overheat/flamethrower (preferably overheat) nad slap a specs on it.
    You don't need to replace gyara.Its fine the way it is.

    Here's a phyiscal Luke set:
    Lucario@ Life Orb
    Adamnt Nature
    Inner Focus
    4 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Speed

    Swords Dance
    Close Combat
    Crunch/Stone Edge
    Extremespeed

    Basic SD Luke. Crunch to counter ghosts and psychics, Stone Edge if you want to cover gyara. You make the call.
     
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