RMT "Team Shenanigans"

[Shi No Tenshi]

I tested this team out today in a double battle tourney. It ended up winning, but I do have some issues with the team. It's a Trick Room team made for double battles.

The leads:

Togekiss@ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Sp.Atk / 56 Sp. Def

Air Slash
Roost
Follow Me
Protect

Bronzong@ Life Orb
Nature: Impish
Ability: Heat Proof
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Attack / 200 Defense

Gyro Ball
Stealth Rock
Trick Room
Explosion

These 2 are the leads for the team. Togekiss uses Follow Me, pulling attacks from Bronzong and he proceeds to set up the Trick Room. I went with Heat Proof on Bronzong simply because everyone else uses Levitate. This way is people don't think to throw EQ or things like that at it, and by the time they figure out it's got Heat Proof, I use Protect on Togekiss and use Explosion powered by the Life Orb for a little boost. If I have time, I lay down a Stealth Rock.

Camerupt@ Leftovers
Nature: Quiet
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Attack / 252 Sp Atk

Rock Slide
Earth Power
Eruption
Explosion

Camerupt is a powerhouse in a Trick Room team. Thinking of a good replacement for Rock Slide, though. Otherwise, Eruption can destroy most things, and Explosion can send it out with a bang (pun intended >.>).

Breloom@ Toxic Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: HP 200 / 252 Attack / 56 Def

Spore
Wake-Up Slap
Seed Bomb
Facade

Of all of the Pokemon, I was the most happy with Breloom. Spore them, Wake-Up Slap them and watch the HP drop. Facade gets a power up from being poisoned, and the poison gives him back 1/8 HP every turn.

Slowking@ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Sp Atk / 128 Sp Def.

Slack Off
Psychic
Flamethrower
Surf

Slowking makes a great tank, and even with Modest nature, it's the slowest (and because of that, fastest) Pokemon on the team. Slack Off makes it's tanking ability incredible, and allows it to wall even without the Trick Room up. I'm considering trading Flamethrower for Grass Knot, not sure yet.

Swampert@ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Sp Atk

Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Protect

Swampert is one of my favorite Pokemon to use, especially this one. Sadly, it didn't really seem to shine in this team, and almost felt like more of a burden than an asset. The move set is pretty self-explanatory, but I think I'm going to look into switching this out for a more dedicated physical sweeper.

The issues that I've found with this team are that Bronzong is plain too easy to kill. With Levitate, it goes down like a drunk prom date the second moves like Lava Plume, Eruption, or Heat Wave get used, and without it, Earthquake does the same. There's only so much that Togekiss can do. I've considered using Dusknoir instead of Bronzong, because it can do more than use Trick Room, Explode, and pray that they don't kill it. Not only that, but all of it's weaknesses are single target attacks, keeping it safe from multi-target attacks. I'd also like to find a replacement for Swampert. I need something that can make better use of it's 5 turns of speed, and put more of a hurtin' on my opponents team while I can.

Any suggestions or help that people can give me is much appreciated. I really want to make a great Trick Room team that I can be proud of, and send shivers down my opponent's spine.

 

[Azonic]

Bronzong never carries Life Orb. Leftovers is it's only way of restoring HP. SporeSlapping is a nono. Spore + Wakeupslap is the same as two Wake Up slaps. Try Spore + Follow Me (Togekiss) + Focus punch. Focus Punch is deadly coming from Breloom, since a not-very-effective hit still equals 110 Power. Use it. Swampert needs Hydropump > Surf for some easy 2HKOs that Surf can't afford to do. Overall, double battle teams need to be a bit more defensive than offensive. I'm not so sure if Breloom is a good choice. :x Try some more effective Special Walling. Vaporeon is a nice candidate for some Surf + Water Absorb action.

 

[Shi No Tenshi]

The thing with Bronzong was that I never expect him to live more than 2 turns because he's usually got a huge bullseye on him from the start. Also, seeing as his only effective way of making a KO is by Explosion, I figured that Life Orb would give it a little more power.

I hadn't thought of using Focus Punch of Breloom, but that is a pretty good idea. I'll have to give it a try. Vaporeon was another consideration of mine. Swampert and Slowking can tank pretty well, but only Slowking has the ability to heal itself. Swampert just sort of sits and takes damage until it dies. I was thinking of replacing Swampert with Vaporeon, but one thing the team lacks is a good physical sweeper outside of Breloom, and I'm also losing the only Pokemon on the team with EQ.

 

[ScyKinG]

Like Raikazu said, Bronzong wants Leftovers =/. Also why not you like Mach Punch or Focus Punch over Wake Up Slap on Breloom?

Other than those, pretty good team. And a rare rate, you never see Double Battle RMT'S, and then the fact that its TR too! haha

 

[Azonic]

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb / Facade / Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Spore

Is usually the standard way to go. I'm not sure if Breloom will function too well in doubles, though.

 

[ScyKinG]

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Trait: Poison Heal
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP
- Focus Punch
- Seed Bomb / Facade / Leech Seed
- Substitute
- Spore

Is usually the standard way to go. I'm not sure if Breloom will function too well in doubles, though.

That is also the most effective set <.< and yea I know I'm not sure how it will do in doubles.... especially a Trick Room double.

 

[Shi No Tenshi]

Well, so far, my Breloom has functioned pretty well. I just split the speed EVs into HP and Defense, and the one I bread had a wopping 1 IV in speed. That, along with it's already low speed, has made it fit right in on the team. I think I'll definitely be trading out Wake-Up Slap for Focus Punch, since it can usually make it happen with help from Follow Me, even without the SubPunching. I'll give it a try later tonight and update on how it went.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Bronzong wants Relaxed for Gyro Ball.

 

[ΜσdαΜϑrdεrεr]

Bronzong wants Relaxed for Gyro Ball.

Amen to that. Bronzong couldn't live without Relaxed.

 

[sims796]

Well, there is Sassy for Special attacking sets. BAM. sims burned.

Yeah, Relaxed is best, just wanted to be a jerk.

 

[SmashBrony]

I tested this team out today in a double battle tourney. It ended up winning, but I do have some issues with the team. It's a Trick Room team made for double battles.

The leads:

Togekiss@ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Sp.Atk / 56 Sp. Def

Air Slash
Roost
Follow Me
Protect

Bronzong@ Life Orb
Nature: Impish
Ability: Heat Proof
EVs: 252 HP / 56 Attack / 200 Defense

Gyro Ball
Stealth Rock
Trick Room
Explosion

These 2 are the leads for the team. Togekiss uses Follow Me, pulling attacks from Bronzong and he proceeds to set up the Trick Room. I went with Heat Proof on Bronzong simply because everyone else uses Levitate. This way is people don't think to throw EQ or things like that at it, and by the time they figure out it's got Heat Proof, I use Protect on Togekiss and use Explosion powered by the Life Orb for a little boost. If I have time, I lay down a Stealth Rock.

Camerupt@ Leftovers
Nature: Quiet
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 160 HP / 96 Attack / 252 Sp Atk

Rock Slide
Earth Power
Eruption
Explosion

Camerupt is a powerhouse in a Trick Room team. Thinking of a good replacement for Rock Slide, though. Otherwise, Eruption can destroy most things, and Explosion can send it out with a bang (pun intended >.>).

Breloom@ Toxic Orb
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: HP 200 / 252 Attack / 56 Def

Spore
Wake-Up Slap
Seed Bomb
Facade

Of all of the Pokemon, I was the most happy with Breloom. Spore them, Wake-Up Slap them and watch the HP drop. Facade gets a power up from being poisoned, and the poison gives him back 1/8 HP every turn.

Slowking@ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Sp Atk / 128 Sp Def.

Slack Off
Psychic
Flamethrower
Surf

Slowking makes a great tank, and even with Modest nature, it's the slowest (and because of that, fastest) Pokemon on the team. Slack Off makes it's tanking ability incredible, and allows it to wall even without the Trick Room up. I'm considering trading Flamethrower for Grass Knot, not sure yet.

Swampert@ Leftovers
Nature: Sassy
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Sp Atk

Surf
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Protect

Swampert is one of my favorite Pokemon to use, especially this one. Sadly, it didn't really seem to shine in this team, and almost felt like more of a burden than an asset. The move set is pretty self-explanatory, but I think I'm going to look into switching this out for a more dedicated physical sweeper.

The issues that I've found with this team are that Bronzong is plain too easy to kill. With Levitate, it goes down like a drunk prom date the second moves like Lava Plume, Eruption, or Heat Wave get used, and without it, Earthquake does the same. There's only so much that Togekiss can do. I've considered using Dusknoir instead of Bronzong, because it can do more than use Trick Room, Explode, and pray that they don't kill it. Not only that, but all of it's weaknesses are single target attacks, keeping it safe from multi-target attacks. I'd also like to find a replacement for Swampert. I need something that can make better use of it's 5 turns of speed, and put more of a hurtin' on my opponents team while I can.

Any suggestions or help that people can give me is much appreciated. I really want to make a great Trick Room team that I can be proud of, and send shivers down my opponent's spine.

Hm....it's pretty good, but relaxed is best for bronzong.... it increases the power of gyro ball, & the power boost is unaffected by trick room...& you can try a speed down natured absol ta replace your swampert......

 

[Mike Ukiuki]

Yes relaxed is better.

Nice you don't have many weaknesses so it should be great.

Maybe Curselax instead of slowking would be good.

Good luck with your team. :)

 

[Sora_8920]

Yes relaxed is better.

Nice you don't have many weaknesses so it should be great.

Maybe Curselax instead of slowking would be good.

Good luck with your team. :)

I'm not sure how it is in Doubles, but STalkLax > Curselax. It does better than Curselax in Singles IIRC...

 

[Shi No Tenshi]

Thanks for all the help and suggestions everyone! I hadn't considered Snorlax for this team, for some reason, but I think a STalkLax would be an interesting addition to the team, especially considering the lack of physical attackers on the team. I'll be doing the work on the new team over the next few days, and post results as soon as I can.

One thing I am considering though, is using Dusknoir over Bronzong for my Trick Room starter a good idea?