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[zenrot]

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Jolly
Speed Boost
EV: 176 HP, 252 Attack, 80 Speed
~Substitute
~Baton Pass
~Swords Dance
~X-Scissor
My Baton Passer, he gives speed boosts, and maybe even subs or swords dances to my Lucario or Suicune (no SD for suicune), but anyone would enjoy the speed.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Natural Cure
EV: 252 Defense, 40 Special Attack, 216 Special Defense
~Thunder Wave/Toxic
~Ice beam
~Thunder Wave
~Softboiled
Bliss. Huge blob of ultimate Special Sponging.

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest
Intimidate
EV: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
~Draco Meteor
~Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Hydro Pump
Specsmence. yeah.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Bold
Natural Cure
EV: 252 HP, 220 Defense, 36 Speed
~Grass Knot
~Leech Seed
~Heal Bell
~Leech Seed
My cleric celebi. Deals great damage with a STAB grass knot, and leach seed/recovers up. An amazing annoyer.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
Inner Focus
EV:4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
~Close Combat
~Swords Dance
~Extreme Speed
~Crunch
SDluke, he really likes those speed boosts and maybe an SD or sub from ninjask.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Modest/Timid
EV: 252 HP, 252 Special Attack, 4 Speed
~Ice Beam
~Surf
~Calm Mind
~Shadow Ball
A more attack minded Suicune, I sort of made it up as I went so I'm going to have to check its effectivness.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Ninjask @ Leftovers / Nothing
Jolly
Speed Boost
EV: 176 HP, 252 Attack, 80 Speed
~Substitute
~Baton Pass
~Swords Dance / Thief
~X-Scissor


Consider Thief, Ninjask rarely has a chance to swords dance and when id does Skarmory or another PHazer comes in to spite him, nab there leftovers to cripple them for the rest of the match =)

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Natural Cure
EV: 252 Defense, 40 Special Attack, 216 Special Defense
~Thunder Wave/Toxic
~Seismic Toss
~Thunder Wave / ice Beam
~Softboiled

Yeah, and it fails without Seismic toss, to Raikou etc...

Salamence @ Life Orb
Mild
Intimidate
EV: 120 att / 252 sp.att / 136 speed
~ Draco Meteor
~ Brick break
~ Flamethrower
~ Roost

Mix mence is better IMO, less easily walled.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Bold
Natural Cure
EV: 252 HP, 220 Defense, 36 Speed
~Grass Knot
~Leech Seed
~Heal Bell
~Leech Seed

Is awesome =) *Get shot by sims*


Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
Inner Focus
EV:4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
~Close Combat
~Swords Dance
~Extreme Speed
~Crunch

Yep.


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Comments in bold.

Forget the suicune IMO its dead weight, Mence and Ninjask hate Stealth Rock and Mixape will hurt.

IMO you could consider either Tentacruel or Starmie >>Suicune, they both spin and counter mixape.

 

[zenrot]

Actually my Bliss does have seismic toss, it was my mistake (notice I accidentaly typed thunder wave twice). I think I will go with starmie, because i want a more attack minded water type. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Aquilae]

As far as I'm concerned, Ninjask is complete failure due to being dead weight. Drop Ninjask.

You need to have a more reliable counter to Heracross and Lucario besides Salamence, I recommend dropping Ninjask for Gliscor.

I really doubt SpecsMence can function well with a special wall in play, and your team does not have a way to eliminate said special walls. I would entirely drop SpecsMence, either go with BulkyDDRoostMence or Mixmence, the former doing Gliscor's job.

Salamence @ Life Orb ** BulkyDDRoostMence
Jolly, 224 HP/12 Attack/196 Def/76 Speed

Dragon Dance
Roost
Dragon Claw
Earthquake

Vaporeon over Suicune for Mixape and Gyarados.

Anyways here's how your team would look like:

Gliscor/MixMence/Celebi/Blissey/Lucario/Vaporeon

OR

*insert sweeper here*/BulkyDDRoostMence/Celebi/Blissey/Lucario/Vaporeon

Celebi can't have two Leech Seeds by the way.

 

[StrickeN]

The lineup is pretty good, I just think that your very vulnerable to a Phys Waller such as Skarm. He blocks pretty much every one with the exception of maybe your Specsmence which really should be Mixmence because he is a bit more versatile.

You might consider replacing your SD on Ninjask with Protect. I've seen it used a time or two it was pretty nasty combo. I might be able to find the video of a net battle where a guy using Slaking got raped due to a Ninjask who had protect to back up his sub.

I don't know really, your team seems to be really Offensive, (except for your bliss) which could probably be swept by a Breloom or a Heracross. Your defense needs to be a bit more stable, other wise it's pretty good line up from what I see. by stable I don't mean you need 100000000+ defensive tactics, simply that if you add Def Waller, or some odd thing like that you'd have it a bit easier for those Close Combat Heracross/Mixape

 

[zenrot]

Celebi's second leech seed is recover, I don't know why I have all of those typos...

Anyway, I've replaced Suicune with donphan, and am thinking about replacing Ninjask with mixape or something of the sort.

 

[Anti]

If you want attacking Suicune, I'd run:

Suicune @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 136 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Surf
- Ice Beam

You could probably throw in some hidden power, but it never comes in handy for me, especially since you can use sub to laugh at any water that tries to beat you, unless it carries Haze or something.

I use that set a lot though, and it's great defensively and offensively. Blissey about drops her egg when you sub in the face of Thunder Wave.

You could offense up the EVs, but it needs 252 HP anyways for 101 subs, so there really is no point.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Celebi's second leech seed is recover, I don't know why I have all of those typos...

Anyway, I've replaced Suicune with donphan, and am thinking about replacing Ninjask with mixape or something of the sort.

I would REALLY Consider starmie or tentacruel, your Mixape weakness is HUGE.

 

[Lord Mike]

Ninjask @ Leftovers
Jolly
Speed Boost
EV: 176 HP, 252 Attack, 80 Speed
~Substitute
~Baton Pass
~Swords Dance
~X-Scissor

No Lefties...Liechi please. Oh, and, NINJASK IS SOOO OVERRATED!
My Baton Passer, he gives speed boosts, and maybe even subs or swords dances to my Lucario or Suicune (no SD for suicune), but anyone would enjoy the speed.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Natural Cure
EV: 252 Defense, 40 Special Attack, 216 Special Defense
~Toxic
~Ice beam
~Seismic Toss
~Softboiled

I love how there is a possibility of you giving your Blissey two slots for one move. ToxiBliss pwns >.<
Bliss. Huge blob of ultimate Special Sponging.

Salamence @ Choice Specs
Modest
Intimidate
EV: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
~Draco Meteor
~Dragon Pulse
~Flamethrower
~Hydro Pump

Specsmence. Yeah? Way to put Salamence's 135 Base Attack (405 Max!) to waste. save special sweeping for Pokes like Sceptile, Starmie, and Alakazam.
Specsmence. yeah.

Celebi @ Leftovers
Bold
Natural Cure
EV: 252 HP, 220 Defense, 36 Speed
~Grass Knot
~Leech Seed
~Heal Bell
~Toxic

Way to waste another slot. :/
My cleric celebi. Deals great damage with a STAB grass knot, and leach seed/recovers up. An amazing annoyer.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Adamant
Inner Focus
EV:4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
~Close Combat
~Swords Dance
~Extreme Speed
~Crunch

Your best Poke BY A MILE!
SDluke, he really likes those speed boosts and maybe an SD or sub from ninjask.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Modest/Timid
EV: 240 HP / 80 Def / 156 SAtk / 32 Spd
~Ice Beam
~Surf
~Calm Mind
~Rest/Roar

Ewww...Did you really max Suicune's Special Attack? How retarded...Sorry...but...(chuckle)...you don't give it frikin Shadow Ball either. Go with the spread above, because it sure as heck is better than yours. You don't have a (P)hazer either, so you can use Roar. Rest is good choice too. Just NOT Shadow Ball.

A more attack minded Suicune, I sort of made it up as I went so I'm going to have to check its effectivness.

What effectivness?

Hera weak too :/

Let Blissey be the cleric.

Or try this:

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 104 SAtk / 76 SDef
-Heal Bell
-Haze
-Ice Beam
-Rest / Toxic / Reflect

It kind of replaces both your Celebi and your Blissey. And Blissey is much more worthless if it isn't the cleric. So if it isn't the cleric of your team, I wouldn't recommend using it...

 

[Jimmyray]

Wow, I haven't been on PC for ages. I need to get back into D/P, my minds been invested by Brawl coming out in the UK. Anyways, back on topic.

Uh I'll just recommend Focus Sash Lucario

Lucario@Focus Sash
Adamant Nature
Inner Focus
252 Atk 252 Spe 4 HP
Swords Dance
Extremespeed
Crunch/Blaze Kick/Earthquake
Close Combat

 

[Anti]

I will quit pokemon the day Leech Seed is a waste of a moveslot on Celebi. I will also quit the day Celebi itself is a waste of a team slot. I'm not joking.

specsMence is also very viable and runs WAY better specs sets than the three you mentioned could ever dream of. Zam is the only thing that can outsweep it really, and it can't switch in on ANYTHING.

Interesting how your EV spread wasn't much better. Attacking Suciune is very viable, so I suggest not disregarding it until you've actually tried it. It's on a team that has gone 50-3 for me, so again, don't bash it. It's a good set.

Also, Articuno is a lot better with:

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 160 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roost
- Ice Beam
- Heal Bell
- Roar

Rest is awful on Articuno w/o sleep talk, and Roost outclasses resttalk anyways.

EDIT: It also probably isn't a good idea on a SR weak team with no spinner, and Blissey TOTALLY outclasses it at special walling.

 

[Dark Azelf]

Hera weak too :/

Let Blissey be the cleric.

Or try this:

Articuno @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 76 Def / 104 SAtk / 76 SDef
-Heal Bell
-Haze
-Ice Beam
-Rest / Toxic / Reflect

It kind of replaces both your Celebi and your Blissey. And Blissey is much more worthless if it isn't the cleric. So if it isn't the cleric of your team, I wouldn't recommend using it...

I suggest you research the metagame before rating a team again.

And Blissey is much more worthless if it isn't the cleric.

It really isnt, it just opens up a slot for something better, AKA, Flamethrower, Wish, Ice Beam Toxic etc.


Saying Leech Seed is a waste of a moveslot and Specs Mence is not viable is just silly. Leech Seed is one of the best ways to wear down switch ins and sap their health, as well as supporting the team. It also forces alot of switches...


Also Specs Mence is one of the hardest hitters in the game, it ohko's and 2hko's around ~80>% of the metagame.

It actually outdamages physical mence =/