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[husk1442]

Ursaring@choice band
Evs: 156 hp/ 252 Atk/ 56 Def/ 46 SpDef
Admant(+Atk,-SpAtk)
Brick Break
EQ
HP: Ghost
Return

Forretress@ Leftovers
EVs: 36 Hp/156 Atk/ 136 Def/ 182 SpDef
Admant(+Atk,-SpAtk)
EQ
Explosion
HP Steel
Spikes

Alakazam@ King's Rock
EVs: 6 Hp/252 Spd/ 252 SpAtk
Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk)
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Psychic

Lapras@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/ 6 Def/ 252 SpAtk
Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk)
Confuse Ray
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt

Tyranitar@Leftovers
EVs: 36 HP/120 Atk/ 102 Spd/ 252 SpAtk
Quiet(+SpAtk,-Spd)
Crunch
T-Bolt
FP
Sub

Metagross@Leftovers
EVs:42 HP /154 Atk/ 252 SpAtk
Rash(+SpAtk,-SpDef)
Agility
Ice Punch
Meteor Mash
Thunder Punch

Maybe eq instead of Meteor Mash for type coverage and accuracy but, Meteor Mash has more power....

 

[Lion Heart]

Ursaring@choice band
Evs: 156 hp/ 252 Atk/ 56 Def/ 46 SpDef
Admant(+Atk,-SpAtk)
Facade
EQ
HP: Ghost
Return
Facade, as you don't need Brick Break, as Return covers more areas, switch him in on a Stat Effect, and you're in ^_^

Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 244 HP / 48 Atk / 216 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin
- Spikes

That's my Forre set, works well, some prefer Rest > Boom but I like this


Alakazam@ King's Rock
EVs: 6 Hp/252 Spd/ 252 SpAtk
Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk)
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Psychic
His usual set, works fairly well but Recover Zam is better if they can't do much to him.

Lapras@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/ 6 Def/ 252 SpAtk
Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk)
Confuse Ray
Surf/Roar
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
I'm running a Boltbeam/Roar/CRay set right now, in theory it should work out well, perhaps pump his defenses if he's going to roar though.

Tyranitar@Leftovers
EVs: 36 HP/120 Atk/ 102 Spd/ 252 SpAtk
Quiet(+SpAtk,-Spd)
Crunch
T-Bolt
FP
Sub
Goto my Countering the Common Techniques thread for the standard EV's on Boahtar.

Metagross@Leftovers
EVs:42 HP /226 Atk/ 180 SpAtk
Rash(+SpAtk,-SpDef)
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Thunder Punch
Phlem is right he only needs Thunderpunch for Skarm, otherwise let's use his massive AttackinG power, Swampert will pose a threat here.

Just redone my rating lol, wasn't thinking straight before.

 

[Phlemingo]

Meteor Mash all the way... it's Uber. Plus, you shouldn't have Ice Punch. Just thunderpunch for skarm/bliss. So maybe you could have both mm and eq.

 

[Lion Heart]

I redone my rating as I saw Flem's suggestion and thought my previous ones were a lil off.

 

[husk1442]

sure I'll edit the ice punch out
and fix the EV's on multiple things

For the gross EVs I have a bunch left over after applying your suggestions

any ideas?

BTW 226 atk wastes 2 EVs so I just put 224 in it

 

[Phlemingo]

Why not give it some HP? Sp atk set so t-punch can 2HKO Skarm?

 

[husk1442]

YEa 2hko skarm and do decent damage to waters with steel is uneffective against

 

[Lion Heart]

Your entire team has a huge weakness to Swampert.

Earthquake, Counter, Mirror Coat and a FILLER could wipe your team.

Quake kills Tar, and virtually dints everything else.
Counter will kill Ursaring, and Urs can't OHKO Swampy anyway.
Mirror Coat wrecks Lappy and Zam.
He could have HP Fire and be an anti-you Swampert to wipe Forre aswell.

So get a grass move somewhere.

 

[husk1442]

I realized that so I edited my team to become this Glowingstuff is new:


Ursaring@choice band
Evs: 156 hp/ 252 Atk/ 56 Def/ 46 SpDef
Admant(+Atk,-SpAtk)
HP: Ghost
EQ
Sleep Talk Return

Sceptile@Leftovers
Leech Seed
Leaf Blade
Hp: Ice
Sub

Gengar@ Leftovers
EVs: 136 Atk/ 252 Spd/ 122 SpAtk
Hasty(+Spd,-Def)
FP
Sub
T-Bolt
Giga Drain
Alakazam@ King's Rock
EVs: 6 Hp/252 Spd/ 252 SpAtk
Modest(+SpAtk,-Atk)
Fire Punch
Ice Punch
Thunder Punch
Psychic

Tyranitar@Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP/50 Atk/ 208 SpAtk
Rash(+SpAtk,-Spdef) Crunch
T-Bolt
FP
Sub

Metagross@Leftovers
EVs:42 HP /200 Atk/ 88 Spd /180 SpAtk Rash(+SpAtk,-SpDef)
Agility
EQ Meteor Mash
Thunder Punch

Still 2hko's skarm and speed is set to outspeed Jolt/Aero

 

[Lion Heart]

For Urs Facade > Brick Break

The Sceptile set is my exact one from my very first team, unfortunately I don't get to take credit for it as I found out just the other day (NOTE: I made it 4 months ago), that it was called "McSceptile" and made by McGraw, poor me.

Consider HP Grass > Giga Drain, more power, I know Giga heals but it's a suggestion.

 

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Brick Break + Rock Slide cover almost everything in the entire game. Keep it

~ Facade
~ Brick Break
~ Rock Slide
~ EQ

Fine. Standard.

The rest of the team seems to be pretty standard. McGengar, McSceptile, etc...

 

[husk1442]

Whoops I posted the wrong set for Ursaring I got rid of Brick break for Sleep talk
HP: Ghost is almost required

 

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Well I don't have HP: Ghost and it pwns. Gengar will switch if he sees Ursa, so why bother? Rock Slide pwns Gengar anywayz...

 

[husk1442]

Yea but, rockslide is pretty much covered by return.

Rockslide covers flying, ice, bug (maybe other but, I have a bad memory)
Return deals normal damage to those 3 types so:
Return with STAB has a base power of 102 X 1.5=153
Rockslide with super effectiveness has a base power of 75 X 2= 150

So infact return is better

 

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Yeah, but Facade is fine aswell. Facade>Return IMO.

 

[husk1442]

Facade + Guts is awesome
but, return is for guaranteed damamge

BTW Guts>WoW

 

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

I know, I know

But no need for 2 normal attacks on him. Facade does enough damage already. And as stated before, Brickbreak + Rockslide cover every type in the game.

 

[husk1442]

I only need 1 normal attack and its return
ok?

 

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Why Return? Facade does a better job together with Guts. And it has a good base+stab attack power.

But you aren't going to change it, so I'll shut up now. ^_^

 

[husk1442]

Yep and Good idea

Facade is too weak I might use it on my double battle team since I can auto status my poke