scwizard's first RMT

scwizard said:
I know that...

I'm just saying that from my experience it's not vire weak at all. So there's no way I can believe you unless you give a reason why it should be Vire weak.
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Hmm...

Azonic said:
Umbreon - Cross Chop
Frosslass/Weavile - Cross Chop
Charizard - Thunderpunch/Thunderbolt
Raichu - Earthquake
Forry - Thunderbolt(SpDef low)
Garchomp - Icepunch
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The only mistake on this is that Froslass is IMMUNE to Cross Chop. It's part ghost.
 
Well, if you, by any chance, even payed attention to my 2nd to last post.You would know how its Vire Weak -_-;

Umbreon - Cross Chop
Frosslass/Weavile - Cross Chop
Charizard - Thunderpunch/Thunderbolt
Raichu - Earthquake
Forry - Thunderbolt(SpDef low)
Garchomp - Icepunch
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EDIT: Dunsparce beat me(if this was in competetive. I'd be so mad that I would throw my DS on the wall cuz a Dunsparce had a higher speed stat)
 
A thunderbolt from my boltbeamer can't take out Bulky :'''(

@People: Vire keeps getting nuked before it can attack. I'd think that you were right but that's not how it ends up.

One of the things causing me problems right now is my ghost falling short. Not OHKOing 'dos and not beating fellow ghosts due to shadow sneak.

Scarf chomp also causes me problems. It's faster than my ghost (and will OHKO it with a sandstorm out). A Jolly scarf chomp on dragon claw recently pretty much sweeped me.
 
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scwizard said:
I know that...

I'm just saying that from my experience it's not vire weak at all. So there's no way I can believe you unless you give a reason why it should be Vire weak.

@Azonic: Vire always gets nuked before it can attack.
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O...M...G...

How many facts do we need? We've just shown that nearly your entire team is wiped out by Vire. Tell me, how do you usually beat it?

Azonic said:
1 PhysSweeper + 1 SpecSweeper + 1 PhysWall + 1 SpecWall = 4 0.o

4 + 2 SkarmBliss Killer = 6 =D
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And you still usually want a tank to go with your 2 walls and sweepers...not to mention you need a cleric, spinner, and PHazer on top of a skarmbliss killer. Having a tandom to kill skarmlbiss is like saying "I have raikou to beat skarm and machamp for bliss!" As in, it's kinda fail-ish :/
 
Azonic said:
Well, if you, by any chance, even payed attention to my 2nd to last post.You would know how its Vire Weak -_-;



EDIT: Dunsparce beat me(if this was in competetive. I'd be so mad that I would throw my DS on the wall cuz a Dunsparce had a higher speed stat)
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And liek I said, Froslass is IMMUNE to Cross Chop(It's a Ice/Ghost, afterall). But Because it's frail, she'd still be taken down quickly.
 
Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
O...M...G...

How many facts do we need? We've just shown that nearly your entire team is wiped out by Vire. Tell me, how do you usually beat it?

Take a hacked Arceus and smash it on the Vire.



And you still usually want a tank to go with your 2 walls and sweepers...not to mention you need a cleric, spinner, and PHazer on top of a skarmbliss killer. Having a tandom to kill skarmlbiss is like saying "I have raikou to beat skarm and machamp for bliss!" As in, it's kinda fail-ish :/

Spinner - Forretress <.<;
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btw Anti, if you stick Bastiodon in, thats only gonna be five pokemon ... umbreon's already on the team. Bastiodon can play a part of a dual wall and setting up Stealth Rock and some other pokemon can Roar, Whirlwind... w/e
 
Anti-Pop Culture Warrior 13 said:
O...M...G...

How many facts do we need? We've just shown that nearly your entire team is wiped out by Vire. Tell me, how do you usually beat it?
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Well reversal chu pwns Vire like no tomorrow.

I don't know, I haven't been paying enough attention but I DO beat it.
 
scwizard said:
Well reversal chu pwns Vire like no tomorrow.

I don't know, I haven't been paying enough attention but I DO beat it.
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lol reversalchu lol

EQ!!!

So no, you don't have a counter. what a shcoker How that worked is beyond me...but it's about itme you admit the dang team is Vire weak and get a freakin' counter, because I'm not the most patient person in the world another shocker
 
Ugghuoghoghuhgpgpoehguyehoehgoehogheosoehgowjgh!!!!

Having only one counter for a threat is NOT enough. After all, what if Raichu gets KO'd - then Electivire comes out!? You're team will get beaten.

EDIT: u made me type a word that isn't in the dictionary. Shame on u >:O
 
Don't you know how reversal chu works. You endure EQ and reversal them into oblivion :D
 
I'll start taking statistics now ok.

Then the statistics will prove that your right and I'll get a counter.

So no more posting about Vire until I get the statistics ok. I know what your opinions are by now.
 
scwizard said:
Don't you know how reversal chu works. You endure EQ and reversal them into oblivion :D
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lyke omigosh!

Spoiler:


You need more than one freaking counter to actually survive Electivire. What if Raichu already fainted? Electivire comes out and your team is doomed to failure.​
 
scwizard said:
I'll start taking statistics now ok.

Then the statistics will prove that your right and I'll get a counter.

So no more posting about Vire until I get the statistics ok. I know what your opinions are by now.
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I meant someone with a neutral point of view. Or at least a logical one.

What if the said Electivire surprises you with a Quick Attack after your Raichu Endured the turn before? You never know if someone is willing to give up a moveslot on 'Vire for it.

As rare as such a situation would be (I mean, who uses QA on vire?), it shows that there is a flaw to your idea of a "counter".
 
Or, as you would know, Raichu is an Electric type. Which means it carries thunderbolt.

What if the opponent has a Gyarados in play, you try to use thunderbolt on it but Gyara switches out into Electivire and it gets a Speed Boost. Then, it will be able to outrun Chu. and making Endureversaling = Fail
 
People I didn't mean that seriously...

I KNOW CHU ISN'T A COUNTER >_>

scwizard said:
I'll start taking statistics now ok.

Then the statistics will prove that your right and I'll get a counter.

So no more posting about Vire until I get the statistics ok. I know what your opinions are by now.
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Once again. Enough about Vire. I get what everybody is saying. I'll fix my team after statistics show that your right.
 
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Ok... Focus Sash Infernape obliterates this team... AGAIN =D All it needs is wall support and BAM down you go my friend
 
scwizard said:
Once again. Enough about Vire. I get what everybody is saying. I'll fix my team after statistics show that your right.
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Just face it. The Oni will OWN you. (get it? Oni? Own? I know, bad joke)

You're just desperatley clinging onto a false hope that everyone in this thread except for you will be proven wrong.

Just go with it. You need a more balanced team.
 
And it started with Lumine:
"Hey I have to admit, you've got a nice team going there"

It is bad though. It's been losing a whole ton. I'll make a new team by the end of the next weekend.
 
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